Why does AML have so many job openings?
Why does AML have so many job openings?
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KarlFranz

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2,008 posts

300 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Bincenzo

2,606 posts

209 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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We can only hope that this is a sign of expansion KF. I'm looking to get into the corporate event management side when I leave the forces, so I've got my fingers crossed that all is well!

avinalarf

6,438 posts

172 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Bincenzo said:
We can only hope that this is a sign of expansion KF. I'm looking to get into the corporate event management side when I leave the forces, so I've got my fingers crossed that all is well!
Just keep that moustache Bins,send them that fabulous photo of you that we all love to see ,wear your best tight red trousers and you are guaranteed to get any job,you gorgeous hunk. thumbup

Bincenzo

2,606 posts

209 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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avinalarf said:
Bincenzo said:
We can only hope that this is a sign of expansion KF. I'm looking to get into the corporate event management side when I leave the forces, so I've got my fingers crossed that all is well!
Just keep that moustache Bins,send them that fabulous photo of you that we all love to see ,wear your best tight red trousers and you are guaranteed to get any job,you gorgeous hunk. thumbup
Can I use you for a reference?!? hehe

snuffy

13,293 posts

314 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Why are jobs always now referred to as "opportunities" ? I hate that word.

And why advertise a job (either staff or contract) without specifying the salary/rate ? You have to wonder about the cretins that work in personnel departments.

avinalarf

6,438 posts

172 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Bincenzo said:
avinalarf said:
Bincenzo said:
We can only hope that this is a sign of expansion KF. I'm looking to get into the corporate event management side when I leave the forces, so I've got my fingers crossed that all is well!
Just keep that moustache Bins,send them that fabulous photo of you that we all love to see ,wear your best tight red trousers and you are guaranteed to get any job,you gorgeous hunk. thumbup
Can I use you for a reference?!? hehe
Absolutely Bins.
Please address all correspondence to :
Mr Avinalarf
HMPS
Belmarsh
Western Way
Thamesmead SE28 OEB

SlartiF430

1,828 posts

184 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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snuffy said:
Why are jobs always now referred to as "opportunities" ? I hate that word.

And why advertise a job (either staff or contract) without specifying the salary/rate ? You have to wonder about the cretins that work in personnel departments.
Because how much pay an employee is a compromise between their perception of their worth to you and your perception of their worth to you. You don't want to fantastic people because you or they don't think they fit into some artificial salary band.

snuffy

13,293 posts

314 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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SlartiF430 said:
Because how much pay an employee is a compromise between their perception of their worth to you and your perception of their worth to you. You don't want to fantastic people because you or they don't think they fit into some artificial salary band.
You always need to know the expected salary/rate beforehand, or otherwise how else do you know if you are wasting your time to start with ?

craigjm

21,506 posts

230 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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snuffy said:
You always need to know the expected salary/rate beforehand, or otherwise how else do you know if you are wasting your time to start with ?
I agree, I never apply for a job where it just says competitive or doesn't state.

MollyGTi

2,373 posts

184 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Because all their top engineers have gone to BR biggrin

Hope they get some really good people in QC smile

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Bincenzo said:
I'm looking to get into the corporate event management side
Bez did OK with that wink

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Supplier Development Engineer - the role will involve working with supplier to ensure they use real plastics instead of counterfeit plastics
Not too many vacancies in QC though frown

Y100

2,036 posts

197 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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craigjm said:
I agree, I never apply for a job where it just says competitive or doesn't state.
It does seem odd that they ask what the applicant would accept/anticipate as an hourly rate. The implication is that the lower the hourly rate the applicant declares, forget about suitability/qualifications etc, the more likely they are to be offered the job. Is that the best way to entice quality applicants,,,,,not a particulary attractive MO I have to say. Is it an imported idea, from the US perhaps, doesn't sound very 'British' to me.

I'm with you Craig, they should declare the salary range, from - to, depending on experience, far more civilised. yes

snuffy

13,293 posts

314 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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craigjm said:
I agree, I never apply for a job where it just says competitive or doesn't state.
"Competitive salary/rate" is code for "piss take".

And if they can't even be bothered to state a figure then that implies to me they either have no idea or are going to pitch in at some insulting figure.

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Y100 said:
craigjm said:
I agree, I never apply for a job where it just says competitive or doesn't state.
It does seem odd that they ask what the applicant would accept/anticipate as an hourly rate. The implication is that the lower the hourly rate the applicant declares, forget about suitability/qualifications etc, the more likely they are to be offered the job. Is that the best way to entice quality applicants,,,,,not a particulary attractive MO I have to say. Is it an imported idea, from the US perhaps, doesn't sound very 'British' to me.

I'm with you Craig, they should declare the salary range, from - to, depending on experience, far more civilised. yes
The modern way unfortunately frown
I wouldn't be surprised if there are some zero hour contracts in there and they play on the "privilege" of working for Aston Martin one of the "coolest" brands in the world wink

Jon39

14,930 posts

173 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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I could not see one for the CEO vacancy. confused


snuffy said:
"Competitive salary/rate" is code for "piss take".

Probably the same as when we go in to buy a premium sports car, at the cost shown on their price list of £85,000.

Before we drive away, it has somehow become £102,000.



Edited by Jon39 on Saturday 15th February 22:05

montecristo

1,081 posts

207 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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It's standard practice not to be upfront about salaries. All the best companies do it, from Google down, and it doesn't preclude the best applicants applying, or the salaries being huge, or employees loving it there. I don't know why they do this - maybe so competitors don't find out what they pay, or to make the application process less money-centric, or to give them an edge in negotiation.

SlartiF430

1,828 posts

184 months

Sunday 16th February 2014
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I'd never advertise a salary. It's stupid. I've hired people at 55k that pour shame on some of my guys that get paid 100k. I agree with the above - depending on the role, you should know what you, your experience and your role is worth - to a degree.

PiloteAM

868 posts

240 months

Sunday 16th February 2014
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Sometimes you have very broad experience requirements and would consider a wide range of people, so putting a range is pointless, but generally I try to say.

Many companies have a policy of not declaring it though, for a variety of reasons. One is employee confidentiality.

AMDBSNick

7,220 posts

192 months

Sunday 16th February 2014
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My understanding is most jobs are on a contract basis and eventually you move next door where you can get a "permanent" job. Don't arf help when you want a mortgage yes