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I'm contemplating changing the work horse/shopping cart
I've been looking at MY10 Range Rover Sport 5.0 supercharged autobiography or a MY10 Cayenne GTS/Turbo
I know a few of you like the Range Rover
Has any one one here run one of these and are willing to offer a view?
I've been looking at MY10 Range Rover Sport 5.0 supercharged autobiography or a MY10 Cayenne GTS/Turbo
I know a few of you like the Range Rover
Has any one one here run one of these and are willing to offer a view?
Edited by mikey k on Friday 9th May 16:02
Mikey,
I have just sold the new model Cayenne GTS and I absolutely loved it. It does it's best work at the top end of the rev range but what makes it special is the sound. They pipe sound from the manifold into the A pillars and one press of the sports button and it growls.
Previously having owned 2 RRS's and a Vogue the Cayenne, as a drivers car spanks the older Range Rover Sports easily. I can't comment on the new RRS 5.0L supercharged but I did drive the new 4.4 TDV and was left unimpressed. Great if you want to go from A to B in comfort but certainly didn't have enough power for me. The supercharged RRS should be the business, but as an every day work horse would prove, for me anyway, just too uneconomical.
I was considering the new RRS (I have the Macan turbo on order) but have decided against it and kept with the Macan...Late June delivery. Which was the plan due to reduced family (off to Uni and driving themselves) the Macan has enough room and the turbo is 911 quick!
I did vow never to go back to a Range Rover after the GTS.
Drive both and see what you think...for me it would be the GTS if you need the size...
Edited to say all 3 of the Range Rovers broke down my two Cayennes had no problem at all.
I have just sold the new model Cayenne GTS and I absolutely loved it. It does it's best work at the top end of the rev range but what makes it special is the sound. They pipe sound from the manifold into the A pillars and one press of the sports button and it growls.
Previously having owned 2 RRS's and a Vogue the Cayenne, as a drivers car spanks the older Range Rover Sports easily. I can't comment on the new RRS 5.0L supercharged but I did drive the new 4.4 TDV and was left unimpressed. Great if you want to go from A to B in comfort but certainly didn't have enough power for me. The supercharged RRS should be the business, but as an every day work horse would prove, for me anyway, just too uneconomical.
I was considering the new RRS (I have the Macan turbo on order) but have decided against it and kept with the Macan...Late June delivery. Which was the plan due to reduced family (off to Uni and driving themselves) the Macan has enough room and the turbo is 911 quick!
I did vow never to go back to a Range Rover after the GTS.
Drive both and see what you think...for me it would be the GTS if you need the size...
Edited to say all 3 of the Range Rovers broke down my two Cayennes had no problem at all.
Edited by FrankieV8VSP10 on Tuesday 6th May 21:59
ironically there are a couple of RRS's in that combination FrankieV8VSP10 said:
Mikey,
I have just sold the new model Cayenne GTS and I absolutely loved it. It does it's best work at the top end of the rev range but what makes it special is the sound. They pipe sound from the manifold into the A pillars and one press of the sports button and it growls.
Previously having owned 2 RRS's and a Vogue the Cayenne, as a drivers car spanks the older Range Rover Sports easily. I can't comment on the new RRS 5.0L supercharged but I did drive the new 4.4 TDV and was left unimpressed. Great if you want to go from A to B in comfort but certainly didn't have enough power for me. The supercharged RRS should be the business, but as an every day work horse would prove, for me anyway, just too uneconomical.
I was considering the new RRS (I have the Macan turbo on order) but have decided against it and kept with the Macan...Late June delivery. Which was the plan due to reduced family (off to Uni and driving themselves) the Macan has enough room and the turbo is 911 quick!
I did vow never to go back to a Range Rover after the GTS.
Drive both and see what you think...for me it would be the GTS if you need the size...
Edited to say all 3 of the Range Rovers broke down my two Cayennes had no problem at all.
Cheers FrankieI have just sold the new model Cayenne GTS and I absolutely loved it. It does it's best work at the top end of the rev range but what makes it special is the sound. They pipe sound from the manifold into the A pillars and one press of the sports button and it growls.
Previously having owned 2 RRS's and a Vogue the Cayenne, as a drivers car spanks the older Range Rover Sports easily. I can't comment on the new RRS 5.0L supercharged but I did drive the new 4.4 TDV and was left unimpressed. Great if you want to go from A to B in comfort but certainly didn't have enough power for me. The supercharged RRS should be the business, but as an every day work horse would prove, for me anyway, just too uneconomical.
I was considering the new RRS (I have the Macan turbo on order) but have decided against it and kept with the Macan...Late June delivery. Which was the plan due to reduced family (off to Uni and driving themselves) the Macan has enough room and the turbo is 911 quick!
I did vow never to go back to a Range Rover after the GTS.
Drive both and see what you think...for me it would be the GTS if you need the size...
Edited to say all 3 of the Range Rovers broke down my two Cayennes had no problem at all.
Edited by FrankieV8VSP10 on Tuesday 6th May 21:59
I've noticed the RRS's do suffer "issues" even before they are put together
We looked at the RRS MY10 and it was terrible. The ride, cabin quality and space were very, very poor. If any RR, then the FF definitely, but the reliability of these has put us right off.
The Porsche should be good, the facelift Cayenne is brilliant IMO. Failing that, the X5 was brilliant to drive.
Chris
The Porsche should be good, the facelift Cayenne is brilliant IMO. Failing that, the X5 was brilliant to drive.
Chris
I have a RR Sport SC MY 2006 and it given me sterling service over 120k including having run it on LPG since new. Picking up an autobiography RRS 3.0 SDV6 in July or September. The new RRS is a completely different animal, as we all know its a truck load lighter. The the interior is sumptious compared to the old RRS and its handling is really impressive for a car of its magnitude. Agreed the engine is not going to blow you away but even though my old RRS was super charged I rarely spanked it, we all have AMs to do that. I am reliably informed chipping a diesel is relatively easy and it will give 10% to 20% more grunt if more power is required. Road tax is lower (nearly half my old RRS or current V12V) and for distance driving with family or to airports with gear its economical compared to petrol versions. Never driven any Porsche SUVs, just thought someone would should stick up for RRS.
As for FF RR, I looked at that option and yep they are a bit nicer but not £20k nicer than a top of the range RRS.
My old RRS does feel considerably inferior to the new model and I guess a MY 2010 will be likewise. But for me my RRS was very reliable with no major problems.
As for FF RR, I looked at that option and yep they are a bit nicer but not £20k nicer than a top of the range RRS.
My old RRS does feel considerably inferior to the new model and I guess a MY 2010 will be likewise. But for me my RRS was very reliable with no major problems.
Edited by CraigV12V on Wednesday 7th May 10:21
Going to go a bit radical.. why a big 4x4? I recently watched Chris Harris review an Audi S4 with a few tweaks against an RS4 and he was mightily impressed. 4x4 - estate - fast (and we all know you like to fiddle and get a bit more grunt). Other than a lower ride height its probably got as much room as the others - I know my X5 wasn't as big as you'd think.
The X5 might be trouble to find in Petrol form unless you go for a X5M - that might be a contender. As for the RR.. I've PM'd you as my views are unprintable
The X5 might be trouble to find in Petrol form unless you go for a X5M - that might be a contender. As for the RR.. I've PM'd you as my views are unprintable
I did 50k miles in the FFRR, an older L322 model. Have had RRS V8 Supercharged for a couple of years now. Very pleased with it, although its not quite as luxuriously comfy as a big Rangey
Bought the RRS SC this time around because it offered max value for money as a used buy. Depreciation is even worse on the petrol cars, so picked up a 4 year old sub 30K miles V8 Vogue for £30K. Same logic as CraigV12 - the FFRR price premium was a big gap for same year/age so decided to try RRS this time
Next time I change I might go back to a FFRR in 5.0L SC form. I have driven the new models of both RRS and FFRR and they are so much better but just don't make financial sense to me as a private buyer. Im quite happy to drive a 3-4 year old car as my business/airport car to do 20K miles a year in.
I do live in a village on a farm track and wont get off my drive in winter without 4wd and winter tyres...yes, I know I could have a 4wd estate...I had an RS6 for a couple of years but the running costs were more than my Vantage and it wasn't good for keeping my licence intact. I now prefer the big 4 x 4 for the high up driving position, and I just find it relaxing to get in, it doesn't beg to be driven at high speed everywhere
Reliability wise, its like any mainstream vehicle - luck ...Range Rovers sell in huge numbers so you can always find people with problems out there. I do know 3 guys at work who are all on their 3rd or 4th RR product, all high mileage owners, 20-30K miles a year. Some have done 130-200k before changing cars.
Its the usual consumables mostly and if you drive a 2.5 ton car hard it will go through them. Suspension compressors, aircon failing, otherwise ive had a few minor niggles over the last 100K miles, all easily sorted. Each generation has got better, even with the electronics getting more complex all the time..
Service from main dealer was excellent and there's a great indie network too
try www.fullfatrr.com or www.rrsport.co.uk for owners forum, often some good cars for sale too if you are not buying new.....
Bought the RRS SC this time around because it offered max value for money as a used buy. Depreciation is even worse on the petrol cars, so picked up a 4 year old sub 30K miles V8 Vogue for £30K. Same logic as CraigV12 - the FFRR price premium was a big gap for same year/age so decided to try RRS this time
Next time I change I might go back to a FFRR in 5.0L SC form. I have driven the new models of both RRS and FFRR and they are so much better but just don't make financial sense to me as a private buyer. Im quite happy to drive a 3-4 year old car as my business/airport car to do 20K miles a year in.
I do live in a village on a farm track and wont get off my drive in winter without 4wd and winter tyres...yes, I know I could have a 4wd estate...I had an RS6 for a couple of years but the running costs were more than my Vantage and it wasn't good for keeping my licence intact. I now prefer the big 4 x 4 for the high up driving position, and I just find it relaxing to get in, it doesn't beg to be driven at high speed everywhere
Reliability wise, its like any mainstream vehicle - luck ...Range Rovers sell in huge numbers so you can always find people with problems out there. I do know 3 guys at work who are all on their 3rd or 4th RR product, all high mileage owners, 20-30K miles a year. Some have done 130-200k before changing cars.
Its the usual consumables mostly and if you drive a 2.5 ton car hard it will go through them. Suspension compressors, aircon failing, otherwise ive had a few minor niggles over the last 100K miles, all easily sorted. Each generation has got better, even with the electronics getting more complex all the time..
Service from main dealer was excellent and there's a great indie network too
try www.fullfatrr.com or www.rrsport.co.uk for owners forum, often some good cars for sale too if you are not buying new.....
Edited by bogie on Wednesday 7th May 11:35
A Couple of good choices there Mikey.
Personally from my experience of having owned both I'd say the Porsche will give you less trouble with faults but the Rangie would always be my 1st Choice.
My GTS was an excellent drive and the growl was supreme and a much enjoyed addition at the time but with a long association with Range Rovers its what you get used too
and I'm now on my 5th so that might tell you something.
Drive both,stand back and look to see which one does it for you on looks then toss a coin,its as close as that…………
If you fancy a very well cared for and sorted RRS Diesel HSE with all the trimmings let me know as mines going in mid June apparently……..
BTW you'll be getting a report on Craigatin House in a week or 3 as its second stop on the Highland Tour starting next week……..
Personally from my experience of having owned both I'd say the Porsche will give you less trouble with faults but the Rangie would always be my 1st Choice.
My GTS was an excellent drive and the growl was supreme and a much enjoyed addition at the time but with a long association with Range Rovers its what you get used too
and I'm now on my 5th so that might tell you something.
Drive both,stand back and look to see which one does it for you on looks then toss a coin,its as close as that…………
If you fancy a very well cared for and sorted RRS Diesel HSE with all the trimmings let me know as mines going in mid June apparently……..
BTW you'll be getting a report on Craigatin House in a week or 3 as its second stop on the Highland Tour starting next week……..
Not sure you need either as workhorse nor shopping cart, I've tried and failed to get the RRS around the local tescomorrsionsasda market and it was too wide for the aisles. Also, work horse material go get a hilux, much better than both.
Had p38, l322, FFRR and RRS (SC and diesel ) and can honestly say that if you just need a shopping cart get one of these instead....
Had p38, l322, FFRR and RRS (SC and diesel ) and can honestly say that if you just need a shopping cart get one of these instead....
Jon1967x said:
Going to go a bit radical.. why a big 4x4? I recently watched Chris Harris review an Audi S4 with a few tweaks against an RS4 and he was mightily impressed. 4x4 - estate - fast (and we all know you like to fiddle and get a bit more grunt). Other than a lower ride height its probably got as much room as the others - I know my X5 wasn't as big as you'd think.
I agree with this. For the same money a B8 RS4 is the far superior car. And you don't get the image of a 4X4 too which is a nice bonus. I'm after a new car for her who must be obeyed .......she is driving a VW Toe-rag at the moment and we have looked at X5 ML Q5 Q7 and after much driving it looks like we are buying another Toe-rag
RR have a terrible reputation for reliability and the Porsche is too expensive (its a Toe-rag anyway)
RR have a terrible reputation for reliability and the Porsche is too expensive (its a Toe-rag anyway)
I know it's not a Cayenne, but I got my wife a new Touareg R-Line last year summer. I insisted we got the 254 bhp model and it has been great.
She didn't like the style of the Porsche, and where we live there are tons of Range Rovers of varying specs so went for the VW.
It really has been fantastic.
She didn't like the style of the Porsche, and where we live there are tons of Range Rovers of varying specs so went for the VW.
It really has been fantastic.
michael gould said:
I'm after a new car for her who must be obeyed .......she is driving a VW Toe-rag at the moment and we have looked at X5 ML Q5 Q7 and after much driving it looks like we are buying another Toe-rag
RR have a terrible reputation for reliability and the Porsche is too expensive (its a Toe-rag anyway)
Missed this. We went through the same process last summer and ended up with the 245bhp R-Line.RR have a terrible reputation for reliability and the Porsche is too expensive (its a Toe-rag anyway)
Great car.
sukh_m said:
George29 said:
yeti said:
We asked the same question and ended up with this. It is therefore the correct answer
Defenders should be dark green, blue, grey or black. Preferably with a few dints, covered in mud and a Labrador in the back!
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