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V8LM

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Little Donkey

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171 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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We all knew it was coming, but waking up to the announcement with videos and oh, that soundtrack - not a bad way to start the day. Now, where's did I put my man maths calculator??

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

185 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Oh dear. That does look and sound very good. Better not let wifey see that otherwise she may be forcing me to get the man calculator out wink

Grant3

3,710 posts

285 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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The official press release smile

Embargo: 00:01 BST – 16 July 2014
Aston Martin V12 Vantage S Roadster – an open invitation to excitement
- Debut of the luxury brand’s most potent and exhilarating roadster yet
- 6.0-litre V12 engine: 565 bhp and 620 Nm delivers 201 mph top speed
- Supreme agility and intense excitement characterise new model
Aston Martin is opening up a new world of exhilarating driving excitement with the announcement of the hotly anticipated V12 Vantage S Roadster.
When it arrives in markets around the world later this year the new sports car will become the luxury British marque’s most potent, fastest and fastest-accelerating series production roadster to date and follows in the broad tyre tracks of the V12 Vantage S Coupe that was launched to worldwide acclaim in 2013.
Providing the most visceral yet engaging open-top experience in Aston Martin’s current range, the new V12 Vantage S Roadster delivers characteristic sporting agility underpinned by an enviable sports ‘soundtrack’ generated by its naturally aspirated V12 engine and expertly-tuned sports exhaust.
Equipped with the latest 565 bhp (573 PS) Aston Martin AM28 6.0-litre V12 engine, featuring state-of-the-art Bosch engine management, the car is capable of reaching 201 mph and sprinting from rest to 60 mph in only 3.9 seconds (0-100km/h 4.1 seconds).
Peak and low rev torque is delivered in abundance. With 620 Nm available at 5,750 rpm the V12 Vantage S Roadster is not to be found wanting in this vital department. Crucially, too, low rev torque – measured from just 1,000 rpm – starts at a colossal 510 Nm. Together, these statistics demonstrate the Aston Martin engineers’ ability to create a ‘flatter’, yet ‘fatter’, torque curve which supports exceptional driveability and strong pick-up through the gears.
Aston Martin Director of Design, Marek Reichman, said: “The V12 Vantage S Roadster is the mechanical embodiment of our company’s exceptional spirit.
“Beautiful, powerful and spirited it is as spectacular to listen to as it is to look at. The new roadster is truly a treat for the senses with, underlying all this, the capacity to deliver one of the most dynamic, exciting and stirring driving experiences in our current range.
“I’m sure the V12 Vantage S Roadster will appeal to luxury sports car enthusiasts worldwide who want to add a truly exceptional new model to their garage.”
Race car technology
As with its coupe sibling, race car technology runs right through the DNA of the V12 Vantage S Roadster with, for instance, CNC machined combustion chambers and hollow camshafts just two examples of track technology feeding through to the road.
Another clear example is the new car’s SportshiftTM III 7-speed transmission. Engineered to exploit the full sporting potential of the V12 engine, the latest generation SportshiftTM III hydraulically actuated automated manual transmission provides motorsport-style paddle shift changes for optimum performance delivery. The unit, which replaces the six-speed manual gearbox found in the previous V12 Vantage Roadster, is also appreciably lighter – saving 20 kg versus its forebear.
This race-derived and motorsport-proven technology – used routinely in Aston Martin Racing’s race-winning Vantage GT4, GT3 and GTE competition cars – provides for great driver control with only milliseconds of torque interruption and delivers precise and swift gear changes.
The SportshiftTM III transaxle, developed in conjunction with transmission experts Oerlikon Graziano, joins an extensive array of new sport and track-focused developments that ensure the V12 Vantage S Roadster is fully equipped to exploit the huge performance potential of its 6.0-litre naturally aspirated engine.
The use of three-stage adaptive damping, allied to three-stage DSC and two-stage ABS, allows the driver to more precisely tailor the car’s dynamic character. ‘Normal’, ‘Sport’ and ‘Track’ modes provide a broad swathe of dynamic performance that can be tuned to better suit the driver’s requirements. The system also governs the level of power steering assistance offered.
Working alongside the extended chassis capabilities is a ‘Sport’ mode, controlled via a button on the centre console, that alters throttle response, gearshift speed and timing, and exhaust note to, once again, tune the character of the car to the driver’s requirements.
Optimum braking performance is delivered via the specially-created carbon ceramic discs all round, with near-identical brakes appearing on the brand’s ultimate GT, the Vanquish. Meanwhile a whole new lightweight exhaust system – derived from that of Aston Martin’s most expensive and exclusive production model, the One-77 hypercar – is wonderfully sonorous.
The ZF Servotronic power assisted steering offers a quick, slick, 15:1 ratio and, linked to the adaptive damping button, provides two-mode steering assistance designed to best match the ‘Sport’ or ‘Normal’ settings generated by the Adaptive Damping System.
Pure power, beautifully presented
As Aston Martin’s most overtly sporting convertible, with an even more dynamic character than the luxurious Vanquish Volante ultimate GT or refined DB9 Volante, the V12 Vantage S Roadster has been styled to reflect is position as the flagship convertible in the Vantage family.
In keeping with the V12 Vantage S Coupe, the Roadster replaces the famous aluminium vanes in the Aston Martin grille – with a carbon fibre arrangement that also includes sporty black or titanium silver mesh. Created to maximise airflow to the V12 engine, the new grille is inspired by both the remarkable CC100 Speedster Concept and the Vantage race cars.
Other distinguishing features of the V12 Vantage S Roadster include the option of lightweight forged alloy ten-spoke wheels.
The new Roadster retains the same compact proportions of its predecessor while features such as the pronounced bonnet louvres, optional bold graphics (painted carbon front grille, front grille lipstick and tailgate panel) as well as the exterior carbon pack and flared wheel arches underscore its sporting abilities.
Inside, as out, the new car has been styled to reflect its powerful nature. New-style seat trim and door trims, with Sport and carbon fibre lightweight seat options – present V12 Vantage S Roadster buyers with an exciting array of choices.
The optional Interior Carbon Pack, which adds carbon fibre to the car’s facia and door pulls, plus the availability for the first time in a V12 Vantage S Roadster of black pedals, further enhances personalisation options for those in search of a truly bespoke sports car.

Grant3

3,710 posts

285 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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The Technical specification..... so you can order now biggrin
I know it's all on the official website, but thought it would be useful in the thread for reference.
Body
-Two-seat, two-door soft-cover convertible top bodystyle
- Extruded bonded aluminium VH body structure
- Aluminium, magnesium alloy, composite and steel body
- Extruded aluminium door side-impact beams
- Halogen projector headlamps (main beam)
- High Intensity Discharge headlamps (dipped beam)
LED rear lamps
Clear rear lamps
Carbon fibre front splitter and rear diffuser
Black headlamp bezels1

Engine
All-alloy, quad overhead camshaft, 48-valve, 5935 cc V12
Front mid-mounted engine, rear-wheel drive
Fully catalysed, stainless steel exhaust system with active bypass valves
Compression ratio 11.1:1
Max power 421 kW (573 PS/565 bhp) at 6750 rpm
Max torque 620 Nm (457 lb ft) at 5750 rpm
Acceleration Roadster 0-60 mph in 3.9 seconds 0-100 km/h in 4.1 seconds
Maximum speed Roadster 323 km/h (201 mph)

Transmission
Rear mid-mounted, seven-speed ‘Sportshift III’ automated manual transmission
Alloy torque tube with carbon fibre propeller shaft
Limited-slip differential
Final-drive ratio 3.727:1

Steering
Rack and pinion, speed-sensitive Servotronic power-assisted steering, 2.5 turns lock- to-lock
Column tilt and reach adjustment
Steering rack with 15:1 ratio

Wheels & Tyres
19” 10-spoke forged alloy Graphite painted wheels with diamond-turned finish
Front: 9 x 19” Pirelli P Zero Corsa 255/35 ZR19
Rear: 11 x 19” Pirelli P Zero Corsa 295/30 ZR19

Suspension
Front: Independent double wishbones incorporating anti-dive geometry, coil springs, anti-roll bar and monotube adaptive dampers
Rear: Independent double wishbones with anti-squat and anti-lift geometry, dual-rate coil springs and monotube adaptive dampers
Three-stage Adaptive Damping System (ADS) with Normal, Sport and Track modes

Brakes
Front: Ventilated Carbon Ceramic Matrix discs, 398 mm diameter with six-piston monobloc calipers
Rear: Ventilated Carbon Ceramic Matrix discs, 360 mm diameter with four-piston monobloc calipers
Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) with Track mode
Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) with Track mode
Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD)
Emergency Brake Assist (EBA)
Traction Control (TC)
Hydraulic Brake Assist (HBA)
Positive Torque Control (PTC)
Hill Start Assist (HSA)

Standard Specification
Full-grain leather interior
Piano Black fascia trim, centre stack and door grabs
Leather-trimmed sports steering wheel with Black airbag ring
Electrically adjustable sports seats with side airbags
Memory seats and exterior mirrors (three positions)
Dual-stage driver/passenger front airbags
Carbon fibre front grille
Titanium front grille and side strake meshes
Powerfold exterior heated mirrors
Heated rear screen
Automatic temperature control
Organic Electroluminescent (OEL) displays
Trip computer
Cruise control
Bluetooth® telephone preparation with audio streaming capability
Satellite navigation 1
Auto-dimming interior rear-view mirror 1
Garage door opener (USA and Canada only) 1
Rear parking sensors
Reverse parking assist camera (USA and Canada only)
Tyre pressure monitoring 1
Alarm (with volumetric and tilt sensor) and immobiliser
Remote control central door locking and boot release
Glass ECU
Glass switches
Aston Martin Tracking by Cobra (UK only) 2,3
LED map reading lights
In-Car Entertainment
160 W Aston Martin audio system with six-CD autochanger
Integrated Apple iPod® connector 4
USB connector with Waveform Audio Format (WAF), Windows Media Player (WMA)
and MPEG (MP3) audio file compatibility

Exterior Detailing Options
10-spoke lightweight alloy wheels – Silver painted– Satin Black painted
10-spoke forged alloy wheels – Liquid Silver painted– Gloss Black painted with a
diamond-turned finish
Alternative Brake Caliper finish: Grey, Red or Yellow
Pirelli P Zero Tyres
Black or Silver Graphics Pack – individual body panels or combinations of: front grille
‘lipstick’, rear tailgate panel and lamp infills,
Exterior Carbon Pack comprising mirror caps, side strakes and rear lamp infills
Carbon fibre side strakes
Painted carbon fibre front grille
Black front grille and side strake meshes
Black side window trim surround
Black textured tailpipe finisher
Silver headlamp bezels
‘V12’ front wing badging
Delete model badging
Delete protective tape

Interior Detailing Options
Carbon fibre fascia trim
Carbon Interior Pack comprising fascia trim and door grabs
Carbon fibre paddleshifts
Aston Martin Wings headrest embroidery 6
Black pedal pads and footrest
Black anodised speaker grilles (only available with Bang & Olufsen audio Personalised sill plaques

Comfort and Convenience Options
Front parking sensors
Reverse parking assist camera 1
Lightweight seats with six-way electrical adjustment 1,5
Heated seats 6
Passenger seat with ISOFIX (fixed height) 1,6
Garage door opener (Europe only) 1
Second glass ECU
Aston Martin Tracking by Cobra 1,2,3
First aid kit 1
Ashtray and cigar lighter
Boot-mounted umbrella
Leather ECU pouch

In-Car Entertainment Options
700 W Aston Martin Premium Audio System with Dolby® Pro Logic II®
1000 W Bang & Olufsen BeoSound audio system with ICEpower® technology
Satellite radio (USA and Canada only)

Dimensions
Length 4385 mm (172.6”)
Width 1865 mm (73.4”) excluding mirrors
2022 mm (79.6”) including mirrors
Height Roadster 1260 mm (49.2”)
Wheelbase 2600 mm (102.4”)
Front track 1570 mm (61.8”)
Rear track 1575 mm (62.0”)
Turning circle 11.8 m (38.7 ft) (kerb to kerb)
Boot capacity 144 litres (5.1 cu ft)
Fuel capacity 80 litres (17.6 UK gal/21.1 US gal)
Kerb weight Roadster 1745 kg (3847 lb)
Fuel consumption litres/100 km (mpg)
Urban 22.5 (12.6)
Extra-urban 10.2 (27.7)
Combined 14.7 (19.2)
Gas mileage
City 12 mpg
Highway 18 mpg
Combined 14 mpg
CO2 emissions
343 g/km

1 Not available in all markets
2 Complies with UK Thatcham Category 5 requirements. Excludes subscription. Standard in UK
3 Cobra is a registered trademark of Cobra Automotive Technologies SpA
4 iPod® is a trademark of Apple Inc., registered in the US and other countries
5 Does not include side airbags
6 Not available with lightweight seats
7 ‘Sportshift’ trademark is used under licence from Prodrive (Holdings) Ltd

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Not that it realy matters but the launch video and technical pages on the website both state 0-60 in 3.9secs and a top speed of 201mph yet the new V12VS brochure states 0-60 in 3.7secs and a top speed of 205mph.

Also the brochure shows yet more CF added to the range - CF rear parcel shelf, CF exhaust tips and CF wheel centre caps. George will be happy smile

Anyway, looks fantastic!

V8LM

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5,560 posts

239 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Those are the Coupe figures - look at the last double page of the brochure.

jonby

5,367 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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As per the thread that started a day or so ago on this subject, nothing unexpected - this is not a ltd edition hence unlike the V12VR, identical spec to the coupe and a slightly more modest price premium - expected to be c. £148k (the price, not the premium !)

Looks great but I'm keeping my manual thank you very much !!!

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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V8LM said:
Those are the Coupe figures - look at the last double page of the brochure.
DOH, yes of course, thanks! Plus it does say so in the small print - I must learn to read! wobble

Vee12V

1,410 posts

190 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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How many?

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

185 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Vee12V said:
How many?
As many as you want - it is not limited in number like the V12VR

Vee12V

1,410 posts

190 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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IanV12VR said:
Vee12V said:
How many?
As many as you want - it is not limited in number like the V12VR
Bad move imho. Makes the manual roadster even more special and attractive.

jonby

5,367 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Vee12V said:
IanV12VR said:
Vee12V said:
How many?
As many as you want - it is not limited in number like the V12VR
Bad move imho. Makes the manual roadster even more special and attractive.
Why a bad move ?
Although as it happens, assuming there is an absolute maximum of 2 yrs life left in V12VS before Vantage replacement, how many will they sell. Surely no more than 600 +/-100 (coupes & roadsters combined) ? Of which how many roadsters ? 150-200 ?

The difference is that this roadster will be in stock at dealerships, so the usual pricing for dealer spec cars compared to customer spec cars (once it's been out 6-12 months) making it more affordable.

PlusOneToo

65 posts

153 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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I agree with you Jonby, I would rather have a fabulous car, with a larger production run that I can afford and drive, rather than admire limited editions that I can't. This is how I drive my current Vantage Roadster.

I will start saving up now.

jonby

5,367 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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As I see it, regardless of whether they make 100 or 200 units of V12VSR (I assume the total run will be more or less within that kind of margin) and whether they call it a limited edition or not (I appreciate we know they are not doing it as a ltd ed), it won't materially change the future value of this car as a used proposition

The fact is that in any instance, the total run will be small and known - we all know they produced c. 1,300 V12V coupes and in time, we will know how many V12VS were produced

That will keep residuals reasonably high. The manual version is far more likely to be viewed as 'special' in say 5 yrs time+ than the V12VS with ASM IMHO, although if they only ended up making say 40 or 50 of V12VSR (which I find incredibly unlikely, especially as V12VSR is to be sold in the US) that could change

That's a separate issue to discounts on a new V12VSR sat in a showroom. I'm out of touch - what kind of discounts are available on unregistered and/or ultra low mile V12VS coupes these days ? One assumes the same will apply to roadsters in 6-12 mths time

downr

3,807 posts

158 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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i notice the usual comments on the main Pistonheads page story - if i had a pound for every time someone says "but all Aston Martins look the same" i could afford to buy a new V12VSR smile

SFO

5,190 posts

213 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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jonby said:
That's a separate issue to discounts on a new V12VSR sat in a showroom.
apparently, N430 roadsters are customer order only, with no dealer stock cars allowed.

if so, perhaps the same for V12VSR?


AdamV12V

5,314 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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jonby said:
That will keep residuals reasonably high. The manual version is far more likely to be viewed as 'special' in say 5 yrs time+ than the V12VS with ASM IMHO, although if they only ended up making say 40 or 50 of V12VSR (which I find incredibly unlikely, especially as V12VSR is to be sold in the US) that could change
I would agreed with all of that, but a manual V12VS / V12VSR would surely be the king of kings!

jonby said:
That's a separate issue to discounts on a new V12VSR sat in a showroom. I'm out of touch - what kind of discounts are available on unregistered and/or ultra low mile V12VS coupes these days ? One assumes the same will apply to roadsters in 6-12 mths time
Not a lot is my understanding, the key issue being that there is still no factory support on V12VS, however I suspect it might be possible later this year.

A key driver could be that there is only a handful of used V12Vs up for sale at the moment and almost 3x-4x as many V12VS listed, so I expect that the price gap must narrow. If used V12V prices go up, then probably little or no impact on the ability to shift new V12VS at RRP, but if, as is far more likely, used V12VS prices start to drop to be in keeping with V12V, then I can see more people questioning the logic of buying a new V12VS at RRP, and thus factory support to shift new cars may be required.

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

300 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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I can't believe that things such as the 700 W Aston Martin Premium Audio and Reverse Park Assist Camera are still optional. The camera is now standard equipment on the US V8V (and will be mandatory on all USA vehicles by 2018). And who in their right mind would order a V12VS with the standard 160W AM Audio?

jonby

5,367 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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SFO said:
jonby said:
That's a separate issue to discounts on a new V12VSR sat in a showroom.
apparently, N430 roadsters are customer order only, with no dealer stock cars allowed.

if so, perhaps the same for V12VSR?
There are definitely going to be some dealer cars, but whether they class as 'dealer stock' or 'demonstrators' and whether the factory differentiate between the two, I'm not sure