Rip off Britain?
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Seems a one way street in favour of the US....pounds always equal dollars when US stuff comes this way, but it seems odd a UK based company can export product back and get the dollar price cheaper
can someone explain how this works to me ?
Indian release a new bike and the $10K list become £10k ...all as expected when you have all the taxes/shipping etc
AM ship a car across the pond and £99k becomes $99K or £58K to US buyers ?
can someone explain how this works to me ?
Indian release a new bike and the $10K list become £10k ...all as expected when you have all the taxes/shipping etc
AM ship a car across the pond and £99k becomes $99K or £58K to US buyers ?
Glendower said:
Yes, leaves a bad taste, I bought a new V8 Roadster a few years ago, I wonder what the actual discounted price in US would be?Jon1967x said:
Anyone would think this was news.
Its called a free market, market forces, local conditions inc tax, currency fluctuations and as a business they can charge what they want where they want.
On the flip side its cheaper to have your appendix out in the UK than in the US.
Actually it's not a fee market...try importing from the US where prices are cheaper.....they block the imports. Its called a free market, market forces, local conditions inc tax, currency fluctuations and as a business they can charge what they want where they want.
On the flip side its cheaper to have your appendix out in the UK than in the US.
Glendower said:
Jon1967x said:
Anyone would think this was news.
Its called a free market, market forces, local conditions inc tax, currency fluctuations and as a business they can charge what they want where they want.
On the flip side its cheaper to have your appendix out in the UK than in the US.
Actually it's not a fee market...try importing from the US where prices are cheaper.....they block the imports. Its called a free market, market forces, local conditions inc tax, currency fluctuations and as a business they can charge what they want where they want.
On the flip side its cheaper to have your appendix out in the UK than in the US.
Can you buy a RHD UK car in the US at US prices and ship it back ? dont think so ...
the market is only as free as governments want it to be for revenue collection purposes
...still, we shouldn't complain, the UK is still one of (or not the) cheapest countries in Europe to buy and run a car. Many of the other places are not so car friendly with silly rules and extortionate taxes on "luxury" goods like cars ....
the market is only as free as governments want it to be for revenue collection purposes
...still, we shouldn't complain, the UK is still one of (or not the) cheapest countries in Europe to buy and run a car. Many of the other places are not so car friendly with silly rules and extortionate taxes on "luxury" goods like cars ....
Jon1967x said:
It's a free market in the sense that if you don't like it, do something else. Cross border trading is complicated by a whole raft of issues and interventions. You win some, you lose some. Try living in some european counties with the local car taxation schemes they run. Legislation issues in the US will probably mean you can't buy a Vantage soon unless they get an exemption so as a company they may be looking grab what they can while they can hence a cheap price. Its their choice, they're a business.
This.To be fair to Aston the Dollar pricing on most of the range does reflect a fair conversion from the Pound Sterling price.
The Vantage GT is an exception almost certainly due to the impending legislation. I assume they had quite an inventory of LHD only parts to use up and needed to shift as many units as possible as quickly as possible.
As a recent UK buyer of a V8VS did it affect me? Well not really since a LHD Vantage GT to US spec was no good to me. Just a case of double checking the Vantage was the right car for me against the locally available and priced competition.
I do agree that US imports to here are expensive and Dollar price always seems to be the Pound price.
Jon1967x said:
Glendower said:
Jon1967x said:
Anyone would think this was news.
Its called a free market, market forces, local conditions inc tax, currency fluctuations and as a business they can charge what they want where they want.
On the flip side its cheaper to have your appendix out in the UK than in the US.
Actually it's not a fee market...try importing from the US where prices are cheaper.....they block the imports. Its called a free market, market forces, local conditions inc tax, currency fluctuations and as a business they can charge what they want where they want.
On the flip side its cheaper to have your appendix out in the UK than in the US.
DAMIT said:
Don't forget that the US price quoted does not include their Sales Taxes (usually 6-7%) and the UK prices quoted include VAT 20% + first year extra road tax! Which you would have to pay if you imported one back to the UK.
All true, but I lived there, there's always a discount off the sticker price too!!! It seems only Aston really do this.
Porsche don't, which is a shame and the conversion is usually around 1.5, which granted gives a small discount, but not huge.
2nd hand prices however are much, much stronger here in the US for some reason and it makes no sense as the market is saturated with cars, yet people still spend big money on used cars, despite the huge offers and incentives on new models.
Chris
Porsche don't, which is a shame and the conversion is usually around 1.5, which granted gives a small discount, but not huge.
2nd hand prices however are much, much stronger here in the US for some reason and it makes no sense as the market is saturated with cars, yet people still spend big money on used cars, despite the huge offers and incentives on new models.
Chris
The 'rip off Britain' line always seems a little childish to me. "You gave Timmy a sweet, why can't I have a sweet". "Because, Jonny, Timmy's sweet is one of many complex variables in his life that you are not looking at holistically, speaking from your narrow view of what's going on here".
Here it's not even a basic product - no one is entitled to an Aston Martin, so if it's a rip off, don't buy it. It's a luxury that no one is forced to buy, pitted against similar luxuries; if they don't price it correctly, the market will soon tell them. Even if some magical law said prices had to be the same, it's more likely that the US is getting a bargain, rather than the UK being ripped off, so it wouldn't do us any good to have equal pricing, it would just raise US prices.
And in AM's case, they aren't exactly rolling in money. Recent threads about the new models suggest that their pricing may be low. So let's not get all woe is me.
Here it's not even a basic product - no one is entitled to an Aston Martin, so if it's a rip off, don't buy it. It's a luxury that no one is forced to buy, pitted against similar luxuries; if they don't price it correctly, the market will soon tell them. Even if some magical law said prices had to be the same, it's more likely that the US is getting a bargain, rather than the UK being ripped off, so it wouldn't do us any good to have equal pricing, it would just raise US prices.
And in AM's case, they aren't exactly rolling in money. Recent threads about the new models suggest that their pricing may be low. So let's not get all woe is me.
montecristo said:
The 'rip off Britain' line always seems a little childish to me. "You gave Timmy a sweet, why can't I have a sweet". "Because, Jonny, Timmy's sweet is one of many complex variables in his life that you are not looking at holistically, speaking from your narrow view of what's going on here".
Here it's not even a basic product - no one is entitled to an Aston Martin, so if it's a rip off, don't buy it. It's a luxury that no one is forced to buy, pitted against similar luxuries; if they don't price it correctly, the market will soon tell them. Even if some magical law said prices had to be the same, it's more likely that the US is getting a bargain, rather than the UK being ripped off, so it wouldn't do us any good to have equal pricing, it would just raise US prices.
And in AM's case, they aren't exactly rolling in money. Recent threads about the new models suggest that their pricing may be low. So let's not get all woe is me.
Yes well, I agree we all have choices, but the fact remains we are not operating on a level playing field. I remember distinctly differing standards that meant any CD' bought in USA were significantly cheaper there than in UK. These differing standards are designed to protect markets and hence prices. Clearly base products have different prices dependent on local factors, however an iPod is and iPod.......Here it's not even a basic product - no one is entitled to an Aston Martin, so if it's a rip off, don't buy it. It's a luxury that no one is forced to buy, pitted against similar luxuries; if they don't price it correctly, the market will soon tell them. Even if some magical law said prices had to be the same, it's more likely that the US is getting a bargain, rather than the UK being ripped off, so it wouldn't do us any good to have equal pricing, it would just raise US prices.
And in AM's case, they aren't exactly rolling in money. Recent threads about the new models suggest that their pricing may be low. So let's not get all woe is me.
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