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V8V12VTECwoollie said:
That is even more unfair than unmarked police cars. There should be an entrapment law that bans the use of covert speed cameras.
i'm not in favour of these either but it's hardly entrapment catching someone committing a crime.Entrapment is unmarked M3 BMW's baiting people by sitting up other performance car's asses then tugging them when the pissed off owner decides to down a few cogs and drop them.
(urban rumour - Dual carriageway leading into chelmsford, essex)
Pixelpeep7r said:
i'm not in favour of these either but it's hardly entrapment catching someone committing a crime.
True, entrapment was the wrong word. That said, a marked up police car cruising down a road does more to prevent crime that this roof box that will allow speeding crimes to be committed and creating a danger to the public. The overriding remit of every police force in the UK is to prevent crime. This does nothing to prevent it, whereas a marked up car does prevent it, even for a brief moment in time.
This thread needs to move to the speed law plod section.
Visible deterrents prevent localised crime near where they are visible. In Staffordshire they have turned off just about every fixed camera and have adopted lots more mobile speed traps some more visible than others, as all the cameras did was cause a local slow down. The Evo triangle is alleged to often have a horse box with a mobile speed camera in it. If you know these things may exist then you may drive slower as you have doubt where they are. Not sure whats so hard to understand.
ps.. I didn't say I liked them, or agreed with them.
Visible deterrents prevent localised crime near where they are visible. In Staffordshire they have turned off just about every fixed camera and have adopted lots more mobile speed traps some more visible than others, as all the cameras did was cause a local slow down. The Evo triangle is alleged to often have a horse box with a mobile speed camera in it. If you know these things may exist then you may drive slower as you have doubt where they are. Not sure whats so hard to understand.
ps.. I didn't say I liked them, or agreed with them.
Gettoff said:
Jon1967x said:
This thread needs to move to the speed law plod section.
That's the last thing that needs to happen, the sanctimony and cock-socketry in there should be well avoided. (I've got my pistonhead word/phrase bingo card ready.. Speed awareness course, better brakes, revenue generators, "I concentrate better when I'm driving fast", speed limits are bringing this country to a standstill, nothing to do with safety and my favourite from over there was "why do you think the impact speed will be higher in an accident if I'm driving faster")
edited: And Jeff.. as you know neither of us went above 60 anywhere on the welsh weekender
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Edited by Jon1967x on Thursday 4th September 17:46
Dave, thanks for sharing that horrible family roof box !
They use these undercover cameras in France, generally in Clio's and small French made cars. The give away is they are mostly dark blue cars.
I am working on a invisible car mirage auto-adaptor (like that
) - "The World is not Enough" 
They use these undercover cameras in France, generally in Clio's and small French made cars. The give away is they are mostly dark blue cars.
I am working on a invisible car mirage auto-adaptor (like that
) - "The World is not Enough" W1111AM said:
Dave, thanks for sharing that horrible family roof box !
They use these undercover cameras in France, generally in Clio's and small French made cars. The give away is they are mostly dark blue cars.
I am working on a invisible car mirage auto-adaptor (like that) - "The World is not Enough"
Pussy....! They use these undercover cameras in France, generally in Clio's and small French made cars. The give away is they are mostly dark blue cars.
I am working on a invisible car mirage auto-adaptor (like that
) - "The World is not Enough" Passive defence is so "other people". Think belt fed and you might be along the right lines.
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