Unique & Rare - full of character
Unique & Rare - full of character
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W1111AM

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944 posts

159 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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This seems like a very special DB2 1954, anyone know about it?
Can the bare aluminium survive weather and the elements?
Do you guys like it?
What can anyone tell us about it?

http://www.amoc.org/component/option,com_wrapper/I...




Edited by W1111AM on Wednesday 12th November 22:07

W1111AM

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944 posts

159 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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burntout

1,390 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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You should pop down to Trinity engineering..... You will love what you see in there.... wink

WayneB

208 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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W1111AM said:
Can the bare aluminium survive weather and the elements?
Do you guys like it?


Edited by W1111AM on Wednesday 12th November 22:07
Bare aluminium withstands the elements OK, it requires polishing pretty frequently though as it oxidises (If you like it shiny), aircraft have also been finished this way because it looks good and saves weight (and cracks can be detected easier)
You can scotchbrite it for a satin brushed finish.
Some of the AC Cobra guys are going the bare alloy route to show off that the car has a proper hand made aluminium body and is not a fibreglass knock off.

Drawbacks are damage is not easily repaired, you cant fill dents with Bondo (P38), it has to be properly knocked out and metal finished by a skilled individual (craftsman).

Do I like it?

Is the Pope catholic ?,

I particulary like some of the imperfections (battle scars) that can be seen, it makes the car even more unique and tough looking IMO.

paddy328

2,930 posts

215 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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It would be ok with some of my special sauce covered over it.....

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

214 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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It looks like a paperweight, bit of a waste of a lovely car

W1111AM

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944 posts

159 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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WayneB said:
W1111AM said:
Can the bare aluminium survive weather and the elements?
Do you guys like it?


Edited by W1111AM on Wednesday 12th November 22:07
Bare aluminium withstands the elements OK, it requires polishing pretty frequently though as it oxidises (If you like it shiny), aircraft have also been finished this way because it looks good and saves weight (and cracks can be detected easier)
You can scotchbrite it for a satin brushed finish.
Some of the AC Cobra guys are going the bare alloy route to show off that the car has a proper hand made aluminium body and is not a fibreglass knock off.

Drawbacks are damage is not easily repaired, you cant fill dents with Bondo (P38), it has to be properly knocked out and metal finished by a skilled individual (craftsman).

Do I like it?

Is the Pope catholic ?,

I particulary like some of the imperfections (battle scars) that can be seen, it makes the car even more unique and tough looking IMO.
Great feedback on aluminium panels, I agree with you there is certainly great visual history in a few dents and scratches. I think it is growing on my, the bare alu.

Is this the first polished alu body on a road-going AM anyone has seen, or are there others?

The Pope could not use bare alu, it's not bullet-proof biggrin

W1111AM

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944 posts

159 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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paddy328 said:
It would be ok with some of my special sauce covered over it.....
Keep your ketchup off the alu Paddy, the vinegar will attack it hehe

tonyhall38

4,194 posts

246 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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looks like they ran out of money and couldnt afford to paint it....

NigelStn

268 posts

197 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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I decided to have mine painted!

ds2000

2,756 posts

222 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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^^ That looks lovely!

I like my cars finished I've got to be honest. Horses for courses.

8Tech

2,212 posts

228 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Not for me I'm afraid. It looks too much like one of those modern cars with the chrome wrap/paint. It does look like a full sized monopoly car though.

I think the bare alloy is more a showpiece rather than a practical quality finish the car deserves.

WayneB

208 posts

256 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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W1111AM said:
Great feedback on aluminium panels, I agree with you there is certainly great visual history in a few dents and scratches. I think it is growing on my, the bare alu.

Is this the first polished alu body on a road-going AM anyone has seen, or are there others?

The Pope could not use bare alu, it's not bullet-proof biggrin
I saw a DB6 that was being driven about in bare aluminium about 6 years ago (in Conneticut USA) , the owner had attempted a "rolling restoration" , stripped off all of the paint , had some metalwork replaced on the car and left it raw (clean but not really highly polished).

Its now painted though (I actually painted it):lol:

You can also see where the body workers at AM had gas welded the various panel sections together, which is interesting, you can actually see how many pieces the bonnet, wings, boot etc was made from, and it really makes you appreciate just how skilled the blokes were who made the bodies at AM back then, some of the Italian stuff I have seen in the raw state is nowhere near to the standard that AM factory bodies were made to.

Contrary to some of the comments here, the bare finish doesn't look like a chrome wrap in real life, the small scratches, weld marks etc and unique hue and texture of the alloy leave no doubt that its the "real deal".

However I can see how some would prefer the painted finish, and the red car in the thread looks fine too, but paint is still a temporary (sacrificial)finish really, some of the exotics I have worked on have had so many paint jobs over their life to date its amazing (one Ferrari had been completely painted in differing colours on 8 separate occasions since 1961).

DB9VolanteDriver

2,660 posts

206 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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W1111AM said:
Is this the first polished alu body on a road-going AM anyone has seen, or are there others?
Here you go...



W1111AM

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944 posts

159 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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WayneB said:
W1111AM said:
Great feedback on aluminium panels, I agree with you there is certainly great visual history in a few dents and scratches. I think it is growing on my, the bare alu.

Is this the first polished alu body on a road-going AM anyone has seen, or are there others?

The Pope could not use bare alu, it's not bullet-proof biggrin
I saw a DB6 that was being driven about in bare aluminium about 6 years ago (in Conneticut USA) , the owner had attempted a "rolling restoration" , stripped off all of the paint , had some metalwork replaced on the car and left it raw (clean but not really highly polished).

Its now painted though (I actually painted it):lol:

You can also see where the body workers at AM had gas welded the various panel sections together, which is interesting, you can actually see how many pieces the bonnet, wings, boot etc was made from, and it really makes you appreciate just how skilled the blokes were who made the bodies at AM back then, some of the Italian stuff I have seen in the raw state is nowhere near to the standard that AM factory bodies were made to.

Contrary to some of the comments here, the bare finish doesn't look like a chrome wrap in real life, the small scratches, weld marks etc and unique hue and texture of the alloy leave no doubt that its the "real deal".

However I can see how some would prefer the painted finish, and the red car in the thread looks fine too, but paint is still a temporary (sacrificial)finish really, some of the exotics I have worked on have had so many paint jobs over their life to date its amazing (one Ferrari had been completely painted in differing colours on 8 separate occasions since 1961).
Thanks for informing us about the weld witness seems, I wondered what truths must be told smile



W1111AM

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159 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
W1111AM said:
Is this the first polished alu body on a road-going AM anyone has seen, or are there others?
Here you go...


OMG rotatebow

Tell us more lick

Guycord

744 posts

203 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I think a good paint job enhances the shape of the vehicle more than being simply highly polished Aluminium. Accentuates the lines and curves.

Both the previous posts of the ali-polished vehicles show that there is too much light being mirrored-off and the subtlety of form is lost with this distraction.






Edited by Guycord on Friday 14th November 04:04

W1111AM

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944 posts

159 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Guycord said:
I think a good paint job enhances the shape of the vehicle more than being simply highly polished Aluminium. Accentuates the lines and curves.

Both the previous posts of the ali-polished vehicles show that there is too much light being mirrored-off and the subtlety of form is lost with this distraction.






Edited by Guycord on Friday 14th November 04:04
great to see your beautiful car, before and after pictures again smile

What if the Alu was not highly polished but a satin-bright finish? I agree the full mirror is very reflective and distracting from the form of the bodywork. I think the original DB2 images I found at the start of this thread look more of a satin-bright?

WayneB

208 posts

256 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Guycord's point about paint being able to accentuate a cars form is dead right.

Back in the day, Scaglietti would form the car body panelshapes out of aluminium , pour oil over them and look at them outsides in the sun to get a better impression of how the finished part would look.

Metallic Paint on cars back in the era before clearcoating tended to be duller, so consequently cars restored and painted using modern methods today don't really look like they did back in the '60's/'70's which can be better or worse depending on the styling of the car.

The DB6 I mentioned in my other post definitely looked better painted, the owner agonised over what colour to paint it for a long time before arriving at his choice of Black Pearl.

I think the worst colour for most Aston Martin's (DB4 on) is white, it just totally washes out the shape of the car,the William Towns designed models however can carry off white, probably because he favoured a more straight, tailored, creased look over Tourings more fluid shapes.