Cant get Michelin Pilot Super Sport for Rapide :-( Others?
Cant get Michelin Pilot Super Sport for Rapide :-( Others?
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Ken Figenus

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147 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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After my due diligence and an agonising 3 month research process, where I even distanced myself from my own family and ignored the business nerd, I went to order some Michelin PSS but they don't do the fronts in a Rapide size of 245/40R20 Y 95 (they do do a rear size of 295/35R20 Y 105) furious.

So an easy option is the Bridgestone OE with AM9 approval - sorry if its old ground but a sentence on any better options for DB9/Rapide would be much appreciated.

I also thought I'd get the alignment checked at the same time but am a little surprised at the £220 quoted for an hour's work at a reputable place in Bucks. I know its 'an Aston' but am used to half that. Anyone any other recommendations. I'll pay it for a good job (especially if its a fiddly job on an Aston) but its a big ouch on top of 4 boots!

Cheers

DB9VolanteDriver

2,660 posts

206 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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Simply use a 255/40 PSS up front instead of the not available 245/40. Would not hesitate one moment in doing this. Min rim width is 8.5" for a 255/40, so you are good to go.

Ken Figenus

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Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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10mm wider at the front then, right? Its such as sublimely balanced car that my instinct is not to mess - promise me it wont start front end gripping like a GT3 wink

rjn21

295 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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Alignment can be a good earner for garages. Phone around your local brands and ask if they have a Hunter laser alignment system with a current subscription.

For example my local Infiniti dealer has the Hunter and will do an alignment inc under tray removal and shims if necessary for £55 inc vat. My family takes in total an F12, 991 TTS, M5 and V12V there.

My local AM and Ferrari dealers do not have a Hunter and use the Porsche one next door for an excessive markup.

Ken Figenus

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147 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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Thanks RJN - dont mind paying for quality/value/expertise (its what I sell myself after all!) but looks like instincts on value were right. Do you mind sharing where your local Infiniti dealer is pls?

rjn21

295 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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Infiniti Stockport. Lovely (unbelievable - trumps HR Owen, Jack Barclay etc) showroom, nice people, pending the Eau Rouge they don't have a product for me. The DP is Alan something - very helpful.

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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rjn21 said:
Alignment can be a good earner for garages. Phone around your local brands and ask if they have a Hunter laser alignment system with a current subscription.

For example my local Infiniti dealer has the Hunter and will do an alignment inc under tray removal and shims if necessary for £55 inc vat. My family takes in total an F12, 991 TTS, M5 and V12V there.

My local AM and Ferrari dealers do not have a Hunter and use the Porsche one next door for an excessive markup.
If they are removing the tray in that £55 that is VERY cheap
There are no shims in the Astons
AM/Ferrari Wilslow are Stratstones and also own the Porsche dealerhip
I'd be taking it to someone who isn't selling cars
9meister in Warrington used to do a great job on my S2000
Buckley Tyres have also done a few Astons
Wheels in Motion and Center Gravity are also well thought of

mikey k

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246 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
Simply use a 255/40 PSS up front instead of the not available 245/40. Would not hesitate one moment in doing this. Min rim width is 8.5" for a 255/40, so you are good to go.
I'd go 255/35 if that's available, remember the second digit is the % profile not the height in mm
So going to 255/40 will give a higher side wall than the stock tyre.

Ken its worth finding PSS's that fit I have them on two cars and have done ~25k miles on them in the last 12 months, great tyre in all sorts of conditions.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,660 posts

206 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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mikey k said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Simply use a 255/40 PSS up front instead of the not available 245/40. Would not hesitate one moment in doing this. Min rim width is 8.5" for a 255/40, so you are good to go.
I'd go 255/35 if that's available, remember the second digit is the % profile not the height in mm
So going to 255/40 will give a higher side wall than the stock tyre.
Not the best idea. The 255/40 is only 8 mm larger in dia than stock, whereas you propose reducing the dia by 17 mm vs stock using a 245/35. I'd definitely stay with 255/40.

Ken Figenus

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147 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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mikey k said:
If they are removing the tray in that £55 that is VERY cheap
There are no shims in the Astons
AM/Ferrari Wilslow are Stratstones and also own the Porsche dealerhip
I'd be taking it to someone who isn't selling cars
9meister in Warrington used to do a great job on my S2000
Buckley Tyres have also done a few Astons
Wheels in Motion and Center Gravity are also well thought of
Agree Mike (happy to pay fair dues) - and you mentioned the source of the quote I have from one of your 'well thought of' list.

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
mikey k said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Simply use a 255/40 PSS up front instead of the not available 245/40. Would not hesitate one moment in doing this. Min rim width is 8.5" for a 255/40, so you are good to go.
I'd go 255/35 if that's available, remember the second digit is the % profile not the height in mm
So going to 255/40 will give a higher side wall than the stock tyre.
Not the best idea. The 255/40 is only 8 mm larger in dia than stock, whereas you propose reducing the dia by 17 mm vs stock using a 245/35. I'd definitely stay with 255/40.
My point was have a look at different sizes wink

Jon39

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173 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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rjn21 said:
.... pending the Eau Rouge they don't have a product for me.

Ah yes, the Infiniti Red Water, wow!

I wonder how they will manage, now their leader has left.



DB9VolanteDriver

2,660 posts

206 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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mikey k said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
mikey k said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Simply use a 255/40 PSS up front instead of the not available 245/40. Would not hesitate one moment in doing this. Min rim width is 8.5" for a 255/40, so you are good to go.
I'd go 255/35 if that's available, remember the second digit is the % profile not the height in mm
So going to 255/40 will give a higher side wall than the stock tyre.
Not the best idea. The 255/40 is only 8 mm larger in dia than stock, whereas you propose reducing the dia by 17 mm vs stock using a 245/35. I'd definitely stay with 255/40.
My point was have a look at different sizes wink
Well, those are the only 2 sizes available in PSS that will work at the front, and to me 8 mm taller is better than 17 mm shorter.

Ken Figenus

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147 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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I pinged Michelin and got this response:

"We already manufacuture the PSS - 245/40 ZR20 (99Y) XL PILOT SUPER SPT. We have no plans to manufacture a 95 (load rating). The 99 = 775kg max load per tyre."

So could get an XL but Aston recommend the lower 95 load rating one - max 600Kg. The XL is clearly going to be stiffer. Car is firm enough for me at the mo (esp with the switchable dampers) and i dont want it getting skittish so I'm guessing this would be a bad idea?

BravoV8V

1,858 posts

204 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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Ken Figenus said:
I pinged Michelin and got this response:

"We already manufacuture the PSS - 245/40 ZR20 (99Y) XL PILOT SUPER SPT. We have no plans to manufacture a 95 (load rating). The 99 = 775kg max load per tyre."

So could get an XL but Aston recommend the lower 95 load rating one - max 600Kg. The XL is clearly going to be stiffer. Car is firm enough for me at the mo (esp with the switchable dampers) and i dont want it getting skittish so I'm guessing this would be a bad idea?
You will struggle to tell the difference on a 2 tonne car. I would go as far as to say that you won't be able to tell any difference at all (other than the improved grip from the PSS).

Ken Figenus

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Friday 2nd January 2015
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Thanks Bravo - I like that answersmile