Does Carbon Fibre only come in black?
Does Carbon Fibre only come in black?
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PlusOneToo

Original Poster:

65 posts

153 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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The reason for the question arises from the V12V bonnet vents which seemingly only comes in black.Having practically any colour you want on the car as long as the vents are black seems a little odd. I would have thought that AM would have been able to colour match with the car colour so they're not so "in your face" IMHO.
After all I remember in the late 80's similar bonnet vents on the Escort Turbo were able to be colour matched so is it cos its CF?
Expanding this, other CF stuff like instrument, gear stick surrounds, wing mirrors, air splitters seems you can have any colour in CF as long as its black. Admittedly naive in this I thought CF was like GRP but using carbon fibre instead of glass fibre as the reinforcing material. Anybody know?

leerandle

831 posts

137 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Carbon itself is black, so without it being painted it will always appear to be black/dark grey. On most cars people want to see that parts are made from carbon, so leave it with just a resin/gloss finish. whereas, some companies use carbon fibre for lightness and then paint afterwards. Its down to personal preference really.


AMDBSNick

7,221 posts

192 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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telum01

987 posts

145 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Yes you can get carbon in different colors. I've seen red, blue, and yellow in person.

Vee12V

1,410 posts

190 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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V12V bonnet vents aren't painted because of heat issues IIRC.

Composite Guru

2,519 posts

233 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Coloured carbon normally uses coloured polyester for the colour and has carbon woven into it too. So officially you only get a 50% CRFP part.

jonby

5,367 posts

187 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Vee12V said:
V12V bonnet vents aren't painted because of heat issues IIRC.

well the coloured carbon fibre which is now offered is not quite the same as painting

you are right that historically, they have refused to paint the louvres for those reasons, although I think there is a suspicion that it was in reality more down to them being awkward to paint and then offer warranty on

However I've seen at least one recent Q car with factory painted louvres, on official AML releases

Manwhoneverwas

598 posts

161 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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The V12 Vantage bonnet louvres are available in Red Carbon Fibre factory fitted or as an accessory (at a price)
The latest 2015 AM accessories brochure can be found here and they are listed and shown on various pages

http://www.astonmartin.com/accessories/brochure-20...

See also here (the last line of the description mentions Red Carbon Fibre)

http://astonmartinbits.com/models/5-V8-Vantage/par...


Edited by Manwhoneverwas on Tuesday 2nd June 16:07

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

207 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Loads more pictures here of red CF:

http://www.astonmartin.com/en/accessories/v12-vant...

and here, scroll down and click on the "China Grey Gallery"

http://www.astonmartin.com/cars/the-vantage-range/...

I really wouldn't want to ask the what the cost would be!!!


Edited by AdamV12V on Tuesday 2nd June 16:22

Manwhoneverwas

598 posts

161 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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AdamV12V said:
Loads more pictures here of red CF:

http://www.astonmartin.com/en/accessories/v12-vant...

and here, scroll down and click on the "China Grey Gallery"

http://www.astonmartin.com/cars/the-vantage-range/...

I really wouldn't want to ask the what the cost would be!!!


Edited by AdamV12V on Tuesday 2nd June 16:22
The price is here (+VAT and fitting for Red CF)

http://astonmartinbits.com/models/5-V8-Vantage/par...

Speculatore

2,003 posts

265 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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It comes in many colours.

Blue


Green


Pink


Yellow Kevlar


Red


But I went for Black to match the car.


PlusOneToo

Original Poster:

65 posts

153 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Thank you everyone. From the Q accessory catalogue it also seems their learning also how to paint these in blue.

Wont be long now before its a mainstream option I guess.

Guycord

744 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Vee12V said:
V12V bonnet vents aren't painted because of heat issues IIRC.
I believe you correctly recall mis-information. The louvres can be painted without any detrimental effect.



Someone spouted this up without really thinking about it assuming it was an engineering decision rather than a design/style decision.

Think about it....
Why would the clear coat on a natural CF vent be significantly different to the clear coat that covers the V12V bonnet in the first place?

Why would the paint be an issue as well?

Why are One-77's, DBS's and Vanq II immune?


I think the real answer is style and differentiation - nothing else. If I'm wrong, my louvers have not shown any issue which is more than can be said about quite a few Owners door handles.

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

300 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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There are three options:

1. Painting the part which obscures the weave pattern that so many like.

2. Tinting the resin which gives a translucent finish so you can still see the weave. This is what Aston does through Q.

3. Blending the carbon with other fibers when woven to give the fabric different colors and patterns.

Murph7355

42,011 posts

286 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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jonby said:

well the coloured carbon fibre which is now offered is not quite the same as painting

you are right that historically, they have refused to paint the louvres for those reasons, although I think there is a suspicion that it was in reality more down to them being awkward to paint and then offer warranty on...
It's never seemed to bother them on the rest of the car....

Little Donkey

1,544 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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No words are needed.

divetheworld

2,565 posts

165 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Speculatore said:
It comes in many colours.


But I went for Black to match the car.

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Where did you get the cheeky little carbon cover in between the manifolds?


Edited by divetheworld on Wednesday 3rd June 07:58

Speculatore

2,003 posts

265 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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divetheworld said:
Speculatore said:
It comes in many colours.


But I went for Black to match the car.

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Where did you get the cheeky little carbon cover in between the manifolds?


Edited by divetheworld on Wednesday 3rd June 07:58
That particular one has been dipped and the radiator cover is real Carbon Fibre. I can now get both done in CF using the same weave so it matches (And almost any colour) but I am not allowed to advertise on the Forum.