DB10 Autocar Special.
Discussion
I think the DB10 and Spectre is a master stroke for Aston Martin.
The film will be a huge success on the back of Skyfall, and will probably break all relevant box office records.
Ignoring what all us fortunate Aston owners think of the DB10's monkey's arse or funny front bit, it is still a stunning car and very much an Aston Martin. It also seems the car will be one of the stars of the show, and as a result, 99% of the film's viewers will see it as one of the coolest cars they've ever seen.
In turn, this will re-affirm Aston Martin as one of the most desirable marques out there. It will generate huge interest and I just wonder how many people leaving the cinema will have a look at Autotrader and see just how much money it costs to get into the Aston World?
I think there then maybe quite a lot of demand for particularly early Gaydon Vantages and DB9s, which will in turn firm up prices, which will have a knock on effect up the range.
Of course, I may be talking complete b
ks. Looking forward to the film though.
The film will be a huge success on the back of Skyfall, and will probably break all relevant box office records.
Ignoring what all us fortunate Aston owners think of the DB10's monkey's arse or funny front bit, it is still a stunning car and very much an Aston Martin. It also seems the car will be one of the stars of the show, and as a result, 99% of the film's viewers will see it as one of the coolest cars they've ever seen.
In turn, this will re-affirm Aston Martin as one of the most desirable marques out there. It will generate huge interest and I just wonder how many people leaving the cinema will have a look at Autotrader and see just how much money it costs to get into the Aston World?
I think there then maybe quite a lot of demand for particularly early Gaydon Vantages and DB9s, which will in turn firm up prices, which will have a knock on effect up the range.
Of course, I may be talking complete b
ks. Looking forward to the film though. Edited by Phil74891 on Friday 16th October 21:03
Phil74891 said:
I think the DB10 and Spectre is a master stroke for Aston Martin.
The film will be a huge success on the back of Skyfall, and will probably break all relevant box office records.
Ignoring what all us fortunate Aston owners think of the DB10's monkey's arse or funny front bit, it is still a stunning car and very much an Aston Martin. It also seems the car will be one of the stars of the show, and as a result, 99% of the film's viewers will see it as one of the coolest cars they've ever seen.
In turn, this will re-affirm Aston Martin as one of the most desirable marques out there. It will generate huge interest and I just wonder how many people leaving the cinema will have a look at Autotrader and see just how much money it costs to get into the Aston World?
I think there then maybe quite a lot of demand for particularly early Gaydon Vantages and DB9s, which will in turn firm up prices, which will have a knock on effect up the range.
Very well said sir and IMHO spot on!The film will be a huge success on the back of Skyfall, and will probably break all relevant box office records.
Ignoring what all us fortunate Aston owners think of the DB10's monkey's arse or funny front bit, it is still a stunning car and very much an Aston Martin. It also seems the car will be one of the stars of the show, and as a result, 99% of the film's viewers will see it as one of the coolest cars they've ever seen.
In turn, this will re-affirm Aston Martin as one of the most desirable marques out there. It will generate huge interest and I just wonder how many people leaving the cinema will have a look at Autotrader and see just how much money it costs to get into the Aston World?
I think there then maybe quite a lot of demand for particularly early Gaydon Vantages and DB9s, which will in turn firm up prices, which will have a knock on effect up the range.
Edited by Phil74891 on Friday 16th October 21:03
Of course, I may be talking complete b
ks. Looking forward to the film though. Edited by DAVIDOXE on Friday 16th October 21:22
Phil74891 said:
Ignoring what all us fortunate Aston owners think of the DB10's monkey's arse or funny front bit
I'm still running with the theory that the looks are functional. Paul Hollywood hinted in his Aston special that the DB 10 could be as iconic as Bond's DB 5 in years to come suggesting that maybe, a few non standard optional extras have been fitted by Q. All fits together very nicely. Edited by Phil74891 on Friday 16th October 21:03
From the interviews I've read with Marek Reichmann it sounds like the design cues we should be looking at for future AM's are mostly the sides of the car; the way it looks as though the car has a downward movement to it and the swage line. Less so the front shark-mouth. Fingers crossed on that front!
Perhaps it will grow on me.. The more I see of it, the more I like it
But some people have got very carried away with the idea much of what we see in DB10 will appear in new Vantage - you can get some general ideas, but not much more
For instance, this car is stated to be almost as wide as ONE 77, so it's proportions & actual size will differ hugely from Vantage replacement
Also, an awful lot of this car simply doesn't work and is there for show. The dials & buttons for instance simply don't work in any way so I wouldn't read too much into what the new interior might look like. The huge Aston logo on the back parcel shelf is patently there to exploit the footage in Spectre, rather than a feature we will see in real life
I don't find Shmee's videos my cup of tea nor I suspect am I his target audience, but he has just posted an extensive video in DB10. The 'show cars' have the interior many of us have seen photos of, that will appear in the Spectre footage. But when he was taken out for a drive in one of the cars that was used for filming driving sequences, it had standard Aston generic steering wheel, gearstick, etc - to give you an idea how far out from future reality it is as a concept, there is a toggle in the show car interiors for reverse, despite the car having a 3 pedal traditional manual transmission, plus I understand the windows don't work and there is no ventilation - it does of course run, which is more than many concept cars, but I am reading relatively little into DB10 re: future cars other than a few external design features.
here is the Shmee video where you can see inside both a showcar and a working car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC2D2hUuZ1U
if I'm understanding correctly, even the wheels are changed from what I call the showcars, for driving purposes
But some people have got very carried away with the idea much of what we see in DB10 will appear in new Vantage - you can get some general ideas, but not much more
For instance, this car is stated to be almost as wide as ONE 77, so it's proportions & actual size will differ hugely from Vantage replacement
Also, an awful lot of this car simply doesn't work and is there for show. The dials & buttons for instance simply don't work in any way so I wouldn't read too much into what the new interior might look like. The huge Aston logo on the back parcel shelf is patently there to exploit the footage in Spectre, rather than a feature we will see in real life
I don't find Shmee's videos my cup of tea nor I suspect am I his target audience, but he has just posted an extensive video in DB10. The 'show cars' have the interior many of us have seen photos of, that will appear in the Spectre footage. But when he was taken out for a drive in one of the cars that was used for filming driving sequences, it had standard Aston generic steering wheel, gearstick, etc - to give you an idea how far out from future reality it is as a concept, there is a toggle in the show car interiors for reverse, despite the car having a 3 pedal traditional manual transmission, plus I understand the windows don't work and there is no ventilation - it does of course run, which is more than many concept cars, but I am reading relatively little into DB10 re: future cars other than a few external design features.
here is the Shmee video where you can see inside both a showcar and a working car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC2D2hUuZ1U
if I'm understanding correctly, even the wheels are changed from what I call the showcars, for driving purposes
Edited by jonby on Monday 19th October 13:37
I do think the DB10 looks much better in the flesh. Will it ever become as iconic as the DB5? Here they are from the Works Spectre event on Saturday, personally I don't think so but you can make your own mind up. Apparently one DB10 is going to be auctioned next year...expected price £5m!!
FrankieBee said:
I do think the DB10 looks much better in the flesh. Will it ever become as iconic as the DB5? Here they are from the Works Spectre event on Saturday, personally I don't think so but you can make your own mind up. Apparently one DB10 is going to be auctioned next year...expected price £5m!!
I had read that there will be 3 - one for EON, one for AML, one to be auctioned for charityhow they can guess the price I'm not quite sure ! It is, quite literally, impossible to value but if it can't be made road legal (and we don't even know which version they will be selling), I'm not sure I see it raising more than a couple of mil
I still find the frontal appearance of this car difficult but as it's intended as the future "design language" of Aston martin I guess I'd better get used to it. I'm still of the opinion that it may look better with more of the usual features like number plates, DLRs and indicators. At the moment it's a bit like one of those sci-fi aliens in films that have no nostrils or ears! Perhaps someone more skilled than me could do a mock up?
FrankieBee said:
I do think the DB10 looks much better in the flesh. Will it ever become as iconic as the DB5?
The DB5 became iconic, becuase it was also a road car you could buy / can still buy (admittedly vastly inflated prices these days). I don't see how the DB10 will become iconic as you can't buy them.Neil1300r said:
FrankieBee said:
I do think the DB10 looks much better in the flesh. Will it ever become as iconic as the DB5?
The DB5 became iconic, because it was also a road car you could buy / can still buy (admittedly vastly inflated prices these days). I don't see how the DB10 will become iconic as you can't buy them.jonby said:
I had read that there will be 3 - one for EON, one for AML, one to be auctioned for charity
how they can guess the price I'm not quite sure ! It is, quite literally, impossible to value but if it can't be made road legal (and we don't even know which version they will be selling), I'm not sure I see it raising more than a couple of mil
I agree with you it is impossible to forecast a value. Two DB5 convertibles reached £1.5m in the recent Bonham's auction. Where they get £5m from for the DB10 is anybody's guess, but in terms of rarity value who knows! It was Mark Higgins, the stunt driver, in his spiel that said only one was being auctioned and may raise £5m. I understand all 10 cars came back from filming but only two of them were actually used to drive in the stunts. The other eight were rigged, and I do mean rigged, with coach bolts etc to secure scaffolding for cameras etc. It is one of the two that were used to do the driving that is being auctioned..as I understand it. Road legal, I don't know. how they can guess the price I'm not quite sure ! It is, quite literally, impossible to value but if it can't be made road legal (and we don't even know which version they will be selling), I'm not sure I see it raising more than a couple of mil
Anyway enough of DB10, lets talk DB11...
RichB said:
I still find the frontal appearance of this car difficult but as it's intended as the future "design language" of Aston martin I guess I'd better get used to it. I'm still of the opinion that it may look better with more of the usual features like number plates, DLRs and indicators. At the moment it's a bit like one of those sci-fi aliens in films that have no nostrils or ears! Perhaps someone more skilled than me could do a mock up?
This pic shows that,unless one is an ant,the iconic Aston grille is not very prominent which I find challenging.The rear is a bit of a mistake.
The side view is ok but the extended rear wheel arches look like an afterthought and as such a bit Halfords.
Not a patch on the muscular lines of Vanquish 1 let alone the wonderful One77.
It's all a bit girlie.......apologies for the sexism.
Edited by avinalarf on Tuesday 20th October 18:15
FrankieBee said:
jonby said:
I had read that there will be 3 - one for EON, one for AML, one to be auctioned for charity
how they can guess the price I'm not quite sure ! It is, quite literally, impossible to value but if it can't be made road legal (and we don't even know which version they will be selling), I'm not sure I see it raising more than a couple of mil
I agree with you it is impossible to forecast a value. Two DB5 convertibles reached £1.5m in the recent Bonham's auction. Where they get £5m from for the DB10 is anybody's guess, but in terms of rarity value who knows! It was Mark Higgins, the stunt driver, in his spiel that said only one was being auctioned and may raise £5m. I understand all 10 cars came back from filming but only two of them were actually used to drive in the stunts. The other eight were rigged, and I do mean rigged, with coach bolts etc to secure scaffolding for cameras etc. It is one of the two that were used to do the driving that is being auctioned..as I understand it. Road legal, I don't know. how they can guess the price I'm not quite sure ! It is, quite literally, impossible to value but if it can't be made road legal (and we don't even know which version they will be selling), I'm not sure I see it raising more than a couple of mil
Anyway enough of DB10, lets talk DB11...
If it's a stunt car, as per the video link I posted, it is driveable and it could probably get through SVA in some countries but it doesn't actually look like a DB10 inside !
As for DB11 - I get the impression that you effectively won't see anything on that to link in to DB10..........on vantage replacement, of course that's a different story
jonby said:
Anyone considering bidding on it will take into account what they can actually do with it. If you can't drive it on the road and you can't track it/ race in it, it's simply a static display item, essentially a sculpture. That severely limits it's value.....
If it's a stunt car, as per the video link I posted, it is driveable and it could probably get through SVA in some countries but it doesn't actually look like a DB10 inside !
As for DB11 - I get the impression that you effectively won't see anything on that to link in to DB10..........on vantage replacement, of course that's a different story
JonbyIf it's a stunt car, as per the video link I posted, it is driveable and it could probably get through SVA in some countries but it doesn't actually look like a DB10 inside !
As for DB11 - I get the impression that you effectively won't see anything on that to link in to DB10..........on vantage replacement, of course that's a different story
Plenty of people will pay well over £5M for all kinds of "static displays"
AMDBSNick said:
jonby said:
Anyone considering bidding on it will take into account what they can actually do with it. If you can't drive it on the road and you can't track it/ race in it, it's simply a static display item, essentially a sculpture. That severely limits it's value.....
If it's a stunt car, as per the video link I posted, it is driveable and it could probably get through SVA in some countries but it doesn't actually look like a DB10 inside !
As for DB11 - I get the impression that you effectively won't see anything on that to link in to DB10..........on vantage replacement, of course that's a different story
JonbyIf it's a stunt car, as per the video link I posted, it is driveable and it could probably get through SVA in some countries but it doesn't actually look like a DB10 inside !
As for DB11 - I get the impression that you effectively won't see anything on that to link in to DB10..........on vantage replacement, of course that's a different story
Plenty of people will pay well over £5M for all kinds of "static displays"
avinalarf said:
The side view is ok but the extended rear wheel arches look like an afterthought and as such a bit Halfords.
If many of us have reservations about the looks of any new car, then that is completely different from the reaction to pictures of the Vantage concept in 2003. That tremendous initial enthusiasm was maintained, and resulted in record (over 7,000) annual production. A mixed reception probably does not translate into record sales.
I agree with your comment about the rear wheel arches Steven, but have now looked closely at the two photographs. The arches on the two cars, seen from that angle, do look remarkably similar. Perhaps therefore they came from One-77, and not Halfords.
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 21st October 09:27
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