YOUR NEW ASTON MARTIN DASHBOARD SIR !
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I very much like our present dashboards, with the high quality watch appearance of the dials. Perhaps I am too old fashioned though, because apparently, I should be excitedly looking forward to having a plain computer tablet stuck on the dashboard.
'Aston Martin and Letv has showcased a Rapide S, incorporating the global technology company's latest Internet of the Vehicle (IoV) system, at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) 2016.'
I saw this type of thing in a Tesla at Wilton House. Admittedly the public were all over it but it was covered in mucky paw prints and after a few minutes it lost its appeal.
If i look down at the dash i want to put my fingers on the heater control or the DSC Off button without scrolling through a menu.
If i look down at the dash i want to put my fingers on the heater control or the DSC Off button without scrolling through a menu.
petop said:
I saw this type of thing in a Tesla at Wilton House. Admittedly the public were all over it but it was covered in mucky paw prints and after a few minutes it lost its appeal.
If i look down at the dash i want to put my fingers on the heater control or the DSC Off button without scrolling through a menu.
+1If i look down at the dash i want to put my fingers on the heater control or the DSC Off button without scrolling through a menu.
Soon, all car interiors will look the same with these huge tablets completely overwhelming the cars interior. It doesn't really matter what it looks like behind because you will never see it.
What I loved about the Aston was, whether you liked it or loathed it you knew you were in an Aston. Let's see if it changes before it makes production.
What I loved about the Aston was, whether you liked it or loathed it you knew you were in an Aston. Let's see if it changes before it makes production.
I have the same issue with touchscreen phones, they are difficult to use without looking at what you are doing . Exactly what you dont need in a car - another distraction from the road, you have to look at a screen just to adjust the car temp etc
/I guess by then it will all be voice activated self driving cars ....
/I guess by then it will all be voice activated self driving cars ....
There are benefits to having a larger screen than most of us currently have but not too large thank you and at the very least the "tablet" should be incorporated into the dash rather than just stuck on like in a Mercedes. I've not got the Vanquish/2016 DB9/Vantage dash but I suspect that is a good compromise with a larger infotainment screen rising out of the dash and keeping a significant number of knobs/dials which can be used without taking your eyes off the road which is definitely safer than scrolling through a menu on a tablet.
Agree - that implementation is dreadful and just looks like an ipad on a holder. In fact an ipad on a holder would actually be a better idea as it could be removed and replaced every 2 years when the new ipad comes out!
Tesla's implementation on a fully integrated screen looks much better, but I still have serious concerns about this type and level of tech in a car as it becomes out of date so quickly - typically within 2-3 years.
Tesla's implementation on a fully integrated screen looks much better, but I still have serious concerns about this type and level of tech in a car as it becomes out of date so quickly - typically within 2-3 years.
So I've parked my new Aston and turned everything off including the Internet of the Vehicle (IoV) system. I can't remove the display, and it doesn't disappear into the console, so its there on display.
I return a couple of hours later, to find my drivers door window smashed and a nasty big hole in the dash where my Internet of the Vehicle (IoV) system use to be......how f
ing impressed am I??? 
A great idea, but if this is fixed, what a nightmare.....if it isn't fixed, it isn't gonna fit in the glove compartment now is it??
I return a couple of hours later, to find my drivers door window smashed and a nasty big hole in the dash where my Internet of the Vehicle (IoV) system use to be......how f
ing impressed am I??? A great idea, but if this is fixed, what a nightmare.....if it isn't fixed, it isn't gonna fit in the glove compartment now is it??
I have to say this has the alarm bells ringing in the Ministry of Crap Design head office.
You cannot adjust anything on a touch screen without looking at it, PS you are driving a car.
Please customers wake up & stop the penny pinching now. This is a CHEAP solution its not high end or quality its cheapness for the sake of engineering, ingenuity, lacks intelligence & most importantly is utterly dreadful for safety.
I got in a LR product the other day, to turn the heated seats on you press the heated seat button, but have to wait for the screen to wake up, so press it again, which wakes up a menu on the screen, where you have a choice of two psudo buttons to press on the screen (that you have to look at) If the passenger presses their button it reverts the screen to the main main menu eg one press of either button turns on menu, a second turns it off. Despite them having their own button. This results in a constant battle of stop pressing a real button each, Utter tosh. Which JLR engineer thought that was a good idea! Stand up to be shot at dawn please.
In the rear is a real button you press once for on & you don't have to wait for the screen to wake up or even look at it.
You cannot adjust anything on a touch screen without looking at it, PS you are driving a car.
Please customers wake up & stop the penny pinching now. This is a CHEAP solution its not high end or quality its cheapness for the sake of engineering, ingenuity, lacks intelligence & most importantly is utterly dreadful for safety.
I got in a LR product the other day, to turn the heated seats on you press the heated seat button, but have to wait for the screen to wake up, so press it again, which wakes up a menu on the screen, where you have a choice of two psudo buttons to press on the screen (that you have to look at) If the passenger presses their button it reverts the screen to the main main menu eg one press of either button turns on menu, a second turns it off. Despite them having their own button. This results in a constant battle of stop pressing a real button each, Utter tosh. Which JLR engineer thought that was a good idea! Stand up to be shot at dawn please.
In the rear is a real button you press once for on & you don't have to wait for the screen to wake up or even look at it.
Edited by cptsideways on Saturday 9th January 18:23
cptsideways said:
I have to say this has the alarm bells ringing in the Ministry of Crap Design head office.
You cannot adjust anything on a touch screen without looking at it, PS you are driving a car.
Please customers wake up & stop the penny pinching now. This is a CHEAP solution its not high end or quality its cheapness for the sake of engineering, ingenuity, lacks intelligence & most importantly is utterly dreadful for safety.
I got in a LR product the other day, to turn the heated seats on you press the heated seat button, but have to wait for the screen to wake up, so press it again, which wakes up a menu on the screen, where you have a choice of two psudo buttons to press on the screen (that you have to look at) If the passenger presses their button it reverts the screen to the main main menu eg one press of either button turns on menu, a second turns it off. Despite them having their own button. This results in a constant battle of stop pressing a real button each, Utter tosh. Which JLR engineer thought that was a good idea! Stand up to be shot at dawn please.
In the rear is a real button you press once for on & you don't have to wait for the screen to wake up or even look at it.
Thats LR for youYou cannot adjust anything on a touch screen without looking at it, PS you are driving a car.
Please customers wake up & stop the penny pinching now. This is a CHEAP solution its not high end or quality its cheapness for the sake of engineering, ingenuity, lacks intelligence & most importantly is utterly dreadful for safety.
I got in a LR product the other day, to turn the heated seats on you press the heated seat button, but have to wait for the screen to wake up, so press it again, which wakes up a menu on the screen, where you have a choice of two psudo buttons to press on the screen (that you have to look at) If the passenger presses their button it reverts the screen to the main main menu eg one press of either button turns on menu, a second turns it off. Despite them having their own button. This results in a constant battle of stop pressing a real button each, Utter tosh. Which JLR engineer thought that was a good idea! Stand up to be shot at dawn please.
In the rear is a real button you press once for on & you don't have to wait for the screen to wake up or even look at it.
Edited by cptsideways on Saturday 9th January 18:23
I have a Tesla, it has a screen like that. A lot of the controls can be accessed from the steering wheel too... you click a button, a menu pops up next the speedo (if it was my old BMW it would be the Head Up display), you pick what you want to control, and then control it. Its not really a big deal. There is also basic set of controls permanently at the bottom of the screen for heated seats, radio, air con etc. I'm due to get a new version of the software any day that updates the graphics and adds some new features.
I think that implementation of a stuck on screen in the picture is dreadful, I think the concept of a touch screen possibly with gesture commands will increasingly be the future.
I did anticipate that most of you would share my opinion.
Presumably the expectation might be, that younger generations will want a computer dashboard. Hopefully AML do know, that most buyers of their premium automobiles are not aged under 30.
The new car options list has been a very good way of increasing the purchase cost of each car so perhaps the solution to this, would be to include a 'Traditional Dashboard' on the options list.
Young, middle and old would then all be happy eager buyers, and AML get more options money.
Brilliant.
No charge Dr. Palmer. -
bogie said:
I have the same issue with touchscreen phones, they are difficult to use without looking at what you are doing . Exactly what you dont need in a car - another distraction from the road, you have to look at a screen just to adjust the car temp etc
/I guess by then it will all be voice activated self driving cars ....
I think over time you do get used to them - I used to think the same when the iPhone came out but it's amazing how quickly you can get used to something new. When you consider kids will grow up with this sort of stuff, I suspect it will be less of a problem for them. Expanding the use of haptic feedback, other cues (e.g. audio) and voice control etc will no doubt help too./I guess by then it will all be voice activated self driving cars ....
But that design is truly s
t. I really hope AM didn't have their best people on it!What might have been better is to use the flexible screen technology to simply follow the curve and lines of the ski slope...
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