P Zero Corsa - Michelin V12 V Replacement
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Hi Guys, My V12v's Corsa's are nearing the end of their life and I noted that the GT12's are now running Michelin's. Living on the North Island of NZ running the Corsa's is not an issue, apart from their life. Has anyone tried replacing the Pirelli's with either the Cups or Super Sports.
I mainly use on the road with the occasional track day and have been pleased with the Corsa's once they are warm. Appreciate any thoughts on how they work on a V12V
I mainly use on the road with the occasional track day and have been pleased with the Corsa's once they are warm. Appreciate any thoughts on how they work on a V12V
PSS are a great tire and I've had them on my daily drivers, but why not go for the PSCup 2's? They are surprisingly forgiving on the road and they outperform the Corsas when pushing it/on the track. Had the OEM Corsas on my V12V and V12VS, replaced the latter with Cup2's and certainly prefer the Michelins.
mafisher said:
Hi Guys, My V12v's Corsa's are nearing the end of their life and I noted that the GT12's are now running Michelin's. Living on the North Island of NZ running the Corsa's is not an issue, apart from their life. Has anyone tried replacing the Pirelli's with either the Cups or Super Sports.
I mainly use on the road with the occasional track day and have been pleased with the Corsa's once they are warm. Appreciate any thoughts on how they work on a V12V
at jag s they used these michelin, they are very happy very enthusiast, they said they are the best tires, until they blow up. I will not spend 5 cents on michelin what ever. I will stick to Pirelli which saved my car and life more than one time.I mainly use on the road with the occasional track day and have been pleased with the Corsa's once they are warm. Appreciate any thoughts on how they work on a V12V
A guy has his tires blown up and he tried to leave a feedback online, he could not Michelin said tey were not interested knowing his tires blow up, its interesting, I hate michelin, first cause they never did good tires but tires who usually last and are bad everywhere, now that there is a hype about the pilot sport, like if they ever did good tires, indeed not, everybody wants pilot sport, but there a piece of junk and they are dangerous tires. They said there is a better grip than pirelli, then i will be worry cause pirelli is a tender tire and it does not last but is excelent something with more grip and i am not surprised they blow up. Michelin has never done good tires, they are a group of stupid idiots. when these bad tires lat, they are bad everywhere,min the rain, with dry weather, no character, no grip, now they ve done a model that is good? you will trust them? lol....me never even in 50 years. also note there is a super sport ,model who was built with defect and is really known to blow up, dont buy the wrong ones, but they all blow up anyway. you will be jeopardising your car and people safety real bad.
Edited by pete1212 on Friday 10th June 07:44
pete1212 said:
stuff
"some guy I knew had a problem, here is one side of a story with no facts or punctuation". Moving on..........There are plenty of reviews of super sport tyres. P zero's, Conti 5P, Corsa's and Cups. Reading them all tell you that Michelin are at the top of the pile.
Corsas and Cup 2's are track focused and will wear out very quickly, but grip like sh!t to a blanket as long as its warm and dry enough. Otherwise they will bite you on the ass. P Zeros aren't as bad in the cold and wet as those but still the best I can say is 'poor' until warm and sticky.
MPSS is a good all rounder with predictable grip in most conditions and excellent wear properties. They don't grip as well as Corsa's or Cups but also don't let go so dramatically in the cold and wet.
The Conti 6 may be a new contender but until it is in AM sizes, MPSS is the only choice for me.
divetheworld said:
"some guy I knew had a problem, here is one side of a story with no facts or punctuation". Moving on..........
There are plenty of reviews of super sport tyres. P zero's, Conti 5P, Corsa's and Cups. Reading them all tell you that Michelin are at the top of the pile.
Corsas and Cup 2's are track focused and will wear out very quickly, but grip like sh!t to a blanket as long as its warm and dry enough. Otherwise they will bite you on the ass. P Zeros aren't as bad in the cold and wet as those but still the best I can say is 'poor' until warm and sticky.
MPSS is a good all rounder with predictable grip in most conditions and excellent wear properties. They don't grip as well as Corsa's or Cups but also don't let go so dramatically in the cold and wet.
The Conti 6 may be a new contender but until it is in AM sizes, MPSS is the only choice for me.
michelin will not allow reviews if you had a blow up tire, i red 3 guys having problems with these michelin, michelin is a piece of junk and you are at real risk with those, people using them , have no history, its new, michelin has never been good for grip. go to the jag forum enthusiats and check your so famous mpss, lol this is making me laugh cause peope dont care and when they have a blow up tire, they start crying...move on,,,cause michelin sucks like hellThere are plenty of reviews of super sport tyres. P zero's, Conti 5P, Corsa's and Cups. Reading them all tell you that Michelin are at the top of the pile.
Corsas and Cup 2's are track focused and will wear out very quickly, but grip like sh!t to a blanket as long as its warm and dry enough. Otherwise they will bite you on the ass. P Zeros aren't as bad in the cold and wet as those but still the best I can say is 'poor' until warm and sticky.
MPSS is a good all rounder with predictable grip in most conditions and excellent wear properties. They don't grip as well as Corsa's or Cups but also don't let go so dramatically in the cold and wet.
The Conti 6 may be a new contender but until it is in AM sizes, MPSS is the only choice for me.
pete1212 said:
michelin will not allow reviews if you had a blow up tire, i red 3 guys having problems with these michelin, michelin is a piece of junk and you are at real risk with those, people using them , have no history, its new, michelin has never been good for grip. go to the jag forum enthusiats and check your so famous mpss, lol this is making me laugh cause peope dont care and when they have a blow up tire, they start crying...move on,,,cause michelin sucks like hell
You still haven't qualified any of your statements. Even an idiot knows they have been out there for more than 5 years, what history don't Michelin have?
Despite all the independent tests which show the MPSS being top performers in grip, what specific tests have you dont to prove they "have never been good for grip"?
If you have specific facts to level against Michelin showing the tyres have actual material defects that make them dangerous then we all will be interested to hear it.
divetheworld said:
You still haven't qualified any of your statements.
Even an idiot knows they have been out there for more than 5 years, what history don't Michelin have?
Despite all the independent tests which show the MPSS being top performers in grip, what specific tests have you dont to prove they "have never been good for grip"?
If you have specific facts to level against Michelin showing the tyres have actual material defects that make them dangerous then we all will be interested to hear it.
http://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk-xkr-x150-33/rapide-2013-aston-martin-ferrari-valencia-161990/Even an idiot knows they have been out there for more than 5 years, what history don't Michelin have?
Despite all the independent tests which show the MPSS being top performers in grip, what specific tests have you dont to prove they "have never been good for grip"?
If you have specific facts to level against Michelin showing the tyres have actual material defects that make them dangerous then we all will be interested to hear it.
"I had horrible experience with Michelin tires- they split on me- both of them."
I red 3 guys having trouble and one trying to let michelin a review they will not accept, for me this is well enough.
could not find the first guy thread who reprot the disaster,,,ask him if he will buy michelin now ...lol
http://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk-xkr-x150-33/m...
"I have a LOT of proof that Michelins fall apart before the 3,000 mile mark, and only speculation that Michelin buys off authors. Of course, many, MANY companies buy off authors so it certainly wouldn't be unexpected. After all, Michelin DOES skew ratings into their favor. I have proof of that also.
Regardless of all that, I just don't want anyone to be going down the freeway rapidly and have their tires fly apart like mine did (though not on the freeway). Could be/would be deadly.
So, if you DO have MPSS tires, PLEASE check them out visually for cracks inside the tread. Sure wish I would have sooner."
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Originally Posted by captusnr View Post
"The PSS has the best balance of wet and dry performance we’ve ever experienced in testing. The minute compromises in each discipline make “super” a worthy part of?its name. It’s our winner. " Nuff said
Yep, as long as you don't go over 3,000 miles and they fly apart.
How much do you think Michelin paid for that "Unbiased Review"???
No, different places. The first set was straight from a Sears Auto Center. Those were the A/S3 set. They lasted for crap, and man did the performance suck. Maybe comparably, as I had Pirelli P-Zeros before that. I went to a Discount and they got a prorate to get the Super Sports, which everyone already knows my feelings on THOSE.
The Second time Michelin Customer Support sent me to a different Discount. The store manager got Michelin to do a 100% refund because the Pissy Stupid Shorts were in such deplorable condition after 2700 miles. Again, the traction was horrible, probably again comparatively. It wouldn't have been so bad except for the huge chunks of rubber coming off. Michelin verified the serial numbers before they agreed to it. No counterfeits there. I never queried about the validity of the A/S3 set.
Regardless, if I DID get counterfeits, I'd from then on avoid that company on the chance that I'd get them again. I seriously doubt that happened.
Of the one manager and three employees that I spoke to during the last fiasco, all of them stated that Michelins were now garbage and they somewhat dissuaded customers from purchasing them. Three of those same guys said they had the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo2 tires and they loved 'em. I gave those a shot and have been happy thus far. They grip like a roll of inside-out duct tape and I've heard no excessive noise, even with the top down.
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Pilot Super Sports -> Undoubtedly the WORST tires I've ever owned, on ANY of my cars. Horrible traction on any other than a nice warm sunny day. Won't hold a corner if they were glued to it. Last barely longer than a Tootsie-Pop (three licks), and they disintegrate within a couple thousand miles. Michelin payed ME to dump them and buy Hankooks. MUCH better tire.
Oh, and when I submitted the bad review on the Michelin website, they refused to post it stating "doesn't fit our needs at this time". $hit-a$$ company, products and customer service.
Condolences on your loss, Captain. (captusnr)
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Edited by pete1212 on Friday 10th June 13:27
I am still not fidning another thread catastrophe with Michelin pilot super s**t
Edited by pete1212 on Friday 10th June 13:29
pete1212 said:
http://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk-xkr-x150-33/r...
"I had horrible experience with Michelin tires- they split on me- both of them."
I red 3 guys having trouble and one trying to let michelin a review they will not accept, for me this is well enough.
Really?"I had horrible experience with Michelin tires- they split on me- both of them."
I red 3 guys having trouble and one trying to let michelin a review they will not accept, for me this is well enough.
Is that your basis for your earlier statements?
Once you've read through all of these, then qualify your sweeping statements.
http://www.pistonheads.com/search?SearchText=pilot...
divetheworld said:
Really?
Is that your basis for your earlier statements?
Once you've read through all of these, then qualify your sweeping statements.
http://www.pistonheads.com/search?SearchText=pilot...
no never, i had once michelin, I know what they are. i m glad you take it like this,Is that your basis for your earlier statements?
Once you've read through all of these, then qualify your sweeping statements.
http://www.pistonheads.com/search?SearchText=pilot...
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Prte1212 -----> Please stop, you make no sense and you are clogging up this thread with useless drivel.
I hope you get the same thing from your tires.michelin will tell me the same, where is your statment, and then to stop cause I am clogging this thread, so go ahead and buy your great tires
5 years history, and this is enough for you with defectuous problems popping each years...lol...
Edited by pete1212 on Friday 10th June 13:53
I don't know whether to laugh or make contact with your Doctor to alert him that you haven't been taking your meds............
On a serious note, certain tyres do not suit certain cars or certain driving styles. In addition EVERY product on the market has a % failure rate regardless how small, just because you have been on the receiving end of one of those does not make it a bad product or bad company.
If you can't see that or behave in a more grown up manner, then I suggest move on to another forum. If you can, then great stick around
On a serious note, certain tyres do not suit certain cars or certain driving styles. In addition EVERY product on the market has a % failure rate regardless how small, just because you have been on the receiving end of one of those does not make it a bad product or bad company.
If you can't see that or behave in a more grown up manner, then I suggest move on to another forum. If you can, then great stick around
Herbs said:
I don't know whether to laugh or make contact with your Doctor to alert him that you haven't been taking your meds............
On a serious note, certain tyres do not suit certain cars or certain driving styles. In addition EVERY product on the market has a % failure rate regardless how small, just because you have been on the receiving end of one of those does not make it a bad product or bad company.
If you can't see that or behave in a more grown up manner, then I suggest move on to another forum. If you can, then great stick around
you guys sucks on michelin, did you got a french beret too?On a serious note, certain tyres do not suit certain cars or certain driving styles. In addition EVERY product on the market has a % failure rate regardless how small, just because you have been on the receiving end of one of those does not make it a bad product or bad company.
If you can't see that or behave in a more grown up manner, then I suggest move on to another forum. If you can, then great stick around
I never heard story like these with pirelli, and really I wish you screw yourself and your car, my lats post.but for me the cretin is you.
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