Vantage V12SMR
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SHIFTY

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1,001 posts

267 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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Now if this had lightweight seats (in non Truffle) I would have been seriously tempted.

http://www.hrowen.co.uk/aston-martin/used-aston-ma...

Looks good value.

jonby

5,367 posts

188 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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It;s a good price but like you, apart from the lightweight seats, I couldn't live with that upholstery. I love the look of white/cream upholstery in general terms but I always worry about it from a practical perspective. In a roadster, even more so - those humps with the hood down will surely pick up a lot of dirt

Anyone know what 'black hood meshes' are ?

telum01

987 posts

146 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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jonby said:
Anyone know what 'black hood meshes' are ?
They're the mesh inserts in the hood/bonnet vents, and they replace the carbon fiber louvers that would otherwise be there.

jonby

5,367 posts

188 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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telum01 said:
jonby said:
Anyone know what 'black hood meshes' are ?
They're the mesh inserts in the hood/bonnet vents, and they replace the carbon fiber louvers that would otherwise be there.
so an american hood ! thanks

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

208 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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Very strange spec that one - it says it includes the Sport Plus Pack, but other than the Graphite Lightweight Wheels all the other exterior and interior options appear to have been dropped in favour of std options?

I'm also not a fan of cream or white leather interiors - very high maintenance.

AstonExige

661 posts

138 months

Monday 30th January 2017
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That's a beauty!!

Having had a Jag XF with ivory seats, the missus has ivory in her evoque and we have a light leather in the Camper, I can't say I've experienced issues with maintenance? Sure after a few months you notice a blue tinge to the drivers bolster from jeans, but a leather cleaner gets that off no problem. So other than a good clean every few months...... and to be honest you should be doing that with dark leather anyway.

C997

644 posts

197 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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AdamV12V said:
Very strange spec that one - it says it includes the Sport Plus Pack, but other than the Graphite Lightweight Wheels all the other exterior and interior options appear to have been dropped in favour of std options?
They've paid for the SP+ and then deleted the options back to standard? That must have cost a fortune!!! laugh

You load the bullets Adam and I'll shoot...biggrin

I do like the light interior with the black exterior. Not sure I'd worry about practicality, it's unlikely to be a daily commuter.

divetheworld

2,565 posts

166 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Very pretty to look at but that car is a full time job.
Black paint... White leather....
Wear a black leather belt at your peril.
Sold to the man suffering from OCD wink

Since when is the meshes "over and above the standard specification" ?
Low line console was a mistake. The roadster wouldn't benefit from less storage.
I've decided, I'm not fond of the anodised calipers.


Big Ry

1,682 posts

150 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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divetheworld said:
Very pretty to look at but that car is a full time job.
Black paint... White leather....
Wear a black leather belt at your peril.
Sold to the man suffering from OCD wink

Since when is the meshes "over and above the standard specification" ?
Low line console was a mistake. The roadster wouldn't benefit from less storage.
I've decided, I'm not fond of the anodised calipers.
I'll break rank here and say I love the colour combo, nearly as much as I like truffle and Cobalt. To be honest if I hadn't already got the V12 I'd be all over that like a cheap suit biggrin A top spec manual roadster.........there won't ever be many of them floating around. Estimates are that they'll only build about 50 V12SMR's.

I only do about 3-4k a year in the AM so I wouldn't be too worried about the cream. I had champagne leather in an M3 years ago and other than a general clean it was OK.

I don't however like the wheel colour, what are they playing at. Also I'd have saved 6k by not having the B&O and had yellow calipers, highline console and CF vents instead.

Black Noctris meshses have been an option for quite a while I think, the standard are silver aren't they.

There was a Cobalt & Truffle SS3 example up a few months ago, sold in about a week for similar money. The fact that it's so different from 99% of the Astons you see (in a nice way) is a good selling point, plus with spring not too far away I can't see it hanging about for too long.

Edited by Big Ry on Tuesday 31st January 07:55

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

208 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Big Ry said:
Black Noctris meshses have been an option for quite a while I think, the standard are silver aren't they.
Yes, there is some confusion in the posts above I think.

This car has the optional Black Noctis meshes (£495), which include the front grille mesh, side strake meshes AND the bonnet meshes (when you stick with the std mesh and CF surrounded vents). This car does not have the now optional full CF bonnet vents (£1995) which have no mesh component.

cayman-black

13,268 posts

247 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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The colour for me is not the problem, i like it. The spec on the other hand is a problem, mesh grill , those awful brake callipers, yuk.

C997

644 posts

197 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Big Ry said:
I don't however like the wheel colour, what are they playing at.
That's what I was hinting at in my previous post. If you buy the SP+ pack that's the wheel colour you get. If you delete it and want to go back, guess what...

Graze01

1,203 posts

123 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Personally I like the interior all bar the dash which has to be black - the Reflections would kill you in Oz

Graze

Chamboy

109 posts

163 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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I've seen and had a very short run in the car - agree with those that it's a cracker! IIRC the Sport Plus pack doesn't have the Alcantara dash etc for Roadsters only Coupes - hence why I think we can only see the Graphite wheels as evidence (HRO obviously chose an alternate Q option £4K paint option as well!). I do agree about those awful anodised callipers though!

Actually my stance on dealer spec cars is that there are things that can be changed to suit personal taste (at some cost!) and some that can't. On this car most of the things that seem to grate can be resolved without too much pain given the £36-odd discount on RRP - bonnet vents and calliper colour can be changed for something like £2.5 - 3k and would be something I'd put into the pot during negotiations The only things that really might break the deal is that HRO never spec Lightweight seats in their spec'd car👎

Ex Boy Racer

1,167 posts

223 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Can't make my mind up between loving it and thinking it's a bit of a tart's boudoir.

Good saving though

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

208 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Chamboy said:
I've seen and had a very short run in the car - agree with those that it's a cracker! IIRC the Sport Plus pack doesn't have the Alcantara dash etc for Roadsters only Coupes - hence why I think we can only see the Graphite wheels as evidence (HRO obviously chose an alternate Q option £4K paint option as well!). I do agree about those awful anodised callipers though!
Yes SP+ has full leather not alcantara on Roadsters but it still only comes in 2 colour combos, pure black or grey blend, each with a handful of stitch colours. None of them however are cream truffle and raven! It also only comes in a handful of exterior paint colours, with optional decals. This car not only doesn't have the decals but its not in one of the exterior colours either! So they have paid £6000 for the lightweight graphite wheels only, well and the 5BHP boost, but they are certainly not worth £6k between them. Very odd....

As for all the fuss about the anodised calipers I think you are really getting in a fuss over nothing. Sure the grey colour doen't work with this colour combo and gloss black would have been better choice, and given they spent £6k on a part SP+ implementation and another £6k+ on B&O with black grills it does seem odd they didn't want to spend £1k on gloss black calipers, BUT I would say they really are quite nice in real life.

With the right exterior they work well and I actually really like the grey satin finish. Here is a pic I took of all the std offerings (i.e. non-Q) when choosing for my car. The free anodised are at the top, the rest at £1k extra.



Chamboy said:
Actually my stance on dealer spec cars is that there are things that can be changed to suit personal taste (at some cost!) and some that can't. On this car most of the things that seem to grate can be resolved without too much pain given the £36-odd discount on RRP - bonnet vents and calliper colour can be changed for something like £2.5 - 3k and would be something I'd put into the pot during negotiations
Sure calipers could be changed colour for £500 but the CF bonnet vents would be quite a bit more expensive to retrofit. There is a used full set on AM bits for £3600, but they quote the new price as £5400 - and then there is fitting on top of these prices.

Edited by AdamV12V on Tuesday 31st January 10:48

Big Ry

1,682 posts

150 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Must admit, I would have thought that for many lightweights at 2.5k would be a far bigger selling pull than the B&O at £6k.

Chamboy

109 posts

163 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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+1 on the Lightweights...but does this not illustrate well the difference between PH enthusiasts and 'conservative' dealers...having pushed them more than once, the dealer (HRO) position was confirmed to be 'no Lightweights in our specs because they're too limiting for sale to our customer base'. We might disagree but I guess it's their business - also hence the strong preference for 'safe ' colours I suppose. The strategy being better to spec safe and sell more quickly to maintain cashflow.

To me this car lands as a 'luxury'-esque spec - light 'classy' interior with Piano Black, B&O etc etc. so rather unlikely that the 'target buyer' would be looking at Lightweights anyway...just my view...

hornbaek

3,843 posts

266 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Lightweights have no seat heating - a must for a roadster and more likely to deter buyers than the lack of carbon backed seats. I don't fit in the standard seats as my head hits the broad edge of the roof so a "no go" for me but I can see its attractiveness. Though wouldn't want to keep it clean on a regular basis.

Ex Boy Racer

1,167 posts

223 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Personally I don't like the lightweights. No recline, no heater for the wife, and a bit tight!

Tillets on my Caterham are ok for laps of the track; I don't want them on my normal car.

Horses for courses I guess