gear change is getting stiff
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my 2006 vantage started to get stiff gear change through all the gears which happen yesterday so i drove to my aston garage & the guy gave it a test drive & said it was a bit stiff but not that bad he done a clutch test by holding on the brake & let the clutch out slowly so it started to stall & said theres no problem there, my car has done 43000 miles from new & when i bought it over 2 years ago with 36000 the owner said t has never had a clutch change, the guy at the garage yesterday said it must have done as the clutch will go by 30000 with normal use, he told just me to use the car & enjoy it & if the problem gets worse then then will have it in, im a little confused as its not enjoyable fighting with the gear shirt, any help on this would be appreciated.
Thanks guys..I do get mine serviced once a year at an aston garage so i would assume they have changed the oil when required.. but maybe they havent !, just an added thing that my mot station noticed last month they spotted an oil leak on a bar by the gearbox,. nothing bad not dripping just some wetness that looked like clear oil, I did tell the aston guy about this yesterday but he said they run on a dry box..!!, i had a 40 mile today & sometimes its hard to select unless a bit of force but sometimes not too bad, im getting it serviced next month so I will make sure this is looked into.
I'm not an engineer (although I know a few good ones) but have a number of comments to make based on common sense and what I have picked up from those that know more than me about these things.
1. Surely the gearbox oil would need to be virtually solid to affect the weight of the gearshift this much.
2. "I did tell the aston guy about this yesterday but he said they run on a dry box". WTF is the oil in there for then?
3. "the owner said it has never had a clutch change but the guy at the garage yesterday said it must have done as the clutch will go by 30000 with normal use". Clutch life is known to vary from a few thousand to nearly 100,000 miles depending on use and driver competence so this is a completely ridiculous thing to say.
4. The test he did on the clutch tests for clutch slip which won't really affect the change quality. As the V8V clutch ages it is known to cause poor shift quality due to "stiff fingers" - help me out here please someone as I'm getting out of my depth now.
5. Don't allow yourself to be fobbed-off when you know the gear change isn't right.
6. "im getting it serviced next month" - My advise would be to take the car to a quality Indie who will give you a proper opinion and advise on what really needs doing. If it needs a new clutch I would highly recommend the BR upgrade to a twin plate with lightened flywheel as it transforms your interaction with gearbox/clutch and doesn't cost much more.
1. Surely the gearbox oil would need to be virtually solid to affect the weight of the gearshift this much.
2. "I did tell the aston guy about this yesterday but he said they run on a dry box". WTF is the oil in there for then?
3. "the owner said it has never had a clutch change but the guy at the garage yesterday said it must have done as the clutch will go by 30000 with normal use". Clutch life is known to vary from a few thousand to nearly 100,000 miles depending on use and driver competence so this is a completely ridiculous thing to say.
4. The test he did on the clutch tests for clutch slip which won't really affect the change quality. As the V8V clutch ages it is known to cause poor shift quality due to "stiff fingers" - help me out here please someone as I'm getting out of my depth now.
5. Don't allow yourself to be fobbed-off when you know the gear change isn't right.
6. "im getting it serviced next month" - My advise would be to take the car to a quality Indie who will give you a proper opinion and advise on what really needs doing. If it needs a new clutch I would highly recommend the BR upgrade to a twin plate with lightened flywheel as it transforms your interaction with gearbox/clutch and doesn't cost much more.
V8V Pete said:
I'm not an engineer (although I know a few good ones) but have a number of comments to make based on common sense and what I have picked up from those that know more than me about these things.
1. Surely the gearbox oil would need to be virtually solid to affect the weight of the gearshift this much.
2. "I did tell the aston guy about this yesterday but he said they run on a dry box". WTF is the oil in there for then?
3. "the owner said it has never had a clutch change but the guy at the garage yesterday said it must have done as the clutch will go by 30000 with normal use". Clutch life is known to vary from a few thousand to nearly 100,000 miles depending on use and driver competence so this is a completely ridiculous thing to say.
4. The test he did on the clutch tests for clutch slip which won't really affect the change quality. As the V8V clutch ages it is known to cause poor shift quality due to "stiff fingers" - help me out here please someone as I'm getting out of my depth now.
5. Don't allow yourself to be fobbed-off when you know the gear change isn't right.
6. "im getting it serviced next month" - My advise would be to take the car to a quality Indie who will give you a proper opinion and advise on what really needs doing. If it needs a new clutch I would highly recommend the BR upgrade to a twin plate with lightened flywheel as it transforms your interaction with gearbox/clutch and doesn't cost much more.
Whats the damage on a new BR clutch replacement, if you don't mind me asking?1. Surely the gearbox oil would need to be virtually solid to affect the weight of the gearshift this much.
2. "I did tell the aston guy about this yesterday but he said they run on a dry box". WTF is the oil in there for then?
3. "the owner said it has never had a clutch change but the guy at the garage yesterday said it must have done as the clutch will go by 30000 with normal use". Clutch life is known to vary from a few thousand to nearly 100,000 miles depending on use and driver competence so this is a completely ridiculous thing to say.
4. The test he did on the clutch tests for clutch slip which won't really affect the change quality. As the V8V clutch ages it is known to cause poor shift quality due to "stiff fingers" - help me out here please someone as I'm getting out of my depth now.
5. Don't allow yourself to be fobbed-off when you know the gear change isn't right.
6. "im getting it serviced next month" - My advise would be to take the car to a quality Indie who will give you a proper opinion and advise on what really needs doing. If it needs a new clutch I would highly recommend the BR upgrade to a twin plate with lightened flywheel as it transforms your interaction with gearbox/clutch and doesn't cost much more.
bomberh said:
Whats the damage on a new BR clutch replacement, if you don't mind me asking?
Just under £3000 including fitting & VAT, I think. Can't be precise because you get a discount when you get the exhaust done at the same time because of the shared labour. Mike would obviously give you an accurate quote.If you're undecided and a demo would help I'm very happy to do that and I'm in the Midlands.
V8V Pete said:
bomberh said:
Whats the damage on a new BR clutch replacement, if you don't mind me asking?
Just under £3000 including fitting & VAT, I think. Can't be precise because you get a discount when you get the exhaust done at the same time because of the shared labour. Mike would obviously give you an accurate quote.If you're undecided and a demo would help I'm very happy to do that and I'm in the Midlands.
I'm having a new set of tyres (Michelin Super Sports ) fitted tomorrow along with a new set of Larini 200 cell cats, so my Aston fund will take a big hit tomorrow. I’ll need to save a few pennies and then sort something out.
myredvantage said:
Thanks guys..I do get mine serviced once a year at an aston garage so i would assume they have changed the oil when required.. but maybe they havent !, just an added thing that my mot station noticed last month they spotted an oil leak on a bar by the gearbox,. nothing bad not dripping just some wetness that looked like clear oil, I did tell the aston guy about this yesterday but he said they run on a dry box..!!, i had a 40 mile today & sometimes its hard to select unless a bit of force but sometimes not too bad, im getting it serviced next month so I will make sure this is looked into.
I can assure you they haven't. And you will never find out until you try to take off the plastic cover... that never came off hence the rusted in screws.A good independent will look after your car, forget AM dealers
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