Vantage Values
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Jon39

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14,355 posts

165 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Only of passing interest for those of us with 'keepers', but the number of V8Vs listed on the AML used list has dropped considerably, now showing (UK) 38.

This MY 2009, the first 4.7 year, has an asking price over £50k. They have been lower than that during recent years.

Dealers have probably always shown each car year as registration date, but the car mentioned above is shown as 2010, and another is shown as March 2009, but was manufactured before September 2008. At least the model year system enables us to tell, whether a particular car was unused for the first part of life.






bogie

16,875 posts

294 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Do seem to be stabilising somewhat. If I try to find a MY2012.25 Roadster in a dealer the same as my car then they are more expensive than what I paid for mine 2 years ago. I guess thats just inflation and non depreciation. Ive doubled the mileage on mine so its a keeper for a few years yet. They always depreciate well down to book price if you put +80K miles on them, I just accept that smile

Perhaps the price of the new model will bring the 1st gen cars up now. I dont think we will be seeing £20k 2005 Vantages any time soon.....

GameofCars

850 posts

131 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Agree, I think the new Vantage will help pull prices up of the outgoing model. A new Vantage with a decent spec will come in at over 120K+, so a used V8V & V8VS is looking very good value. I think manual Vantages particularly will do really well.

m.barnes

205 posts

233 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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I was looking at exactly the same this week.

I logged a few prices back in July 2017 (very low end Vantage v8s) and £32k got you a 2006 reg 56k mile v8 4.3 from Milennium Heros

It now gets you a 2005 55k mileage one from Aston Martin Newcastle, so feels like prices are about stable, assuming an AM garage charges a bit more, but a 2005 is a bit older.

McGurk a year ago listed a 2006 v8 manual with 44k for £34,850. Now listing a 2007 36.8k mile for £37,850

Feels fairly stable. Not that past performance is an indicator of future trends blah blah blah.

pynhead

14 posts

95 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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It'll be interesting to see the ultimate impact of Tariffs on used cars. I've not yet read a detailed dissertation on that topic by smarter people....but my thinking was (assuming they come to fruition) that new cars will increase in cost which could have an additional impact on used car prices (upward would be the logical guess)

The issue will probably manifest more in the classic car market (my favorite) where borders will be more restrictive on every front resulting in market insulation between the US and where all the cool classics are located (Euro)

Love to hear thoughts on this one? Crystal Ball anyone?

john ryan

542 posts

154 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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I reckon retail value of my 2007 40K V8V is about the same as I paid for it - 5 years ago from main dealer

nickv8

1,433 posts

105 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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For our mainstream models, they don’t seem to be dropping, for sure. The higher price of the new Vantage and relative shortage of stock must surely be helping.

(BTW - isn’t the new Vantage price of £120k comparable to the £80k price for the V8V when it was launched mid-naughties?)

I find it a little strange that many of the 2-3 years old V12VS models have continued to settle a little.

But it’s to my amazement that there were 4 GT12’s on Autotrader last night (GT8 simply done move in a year, or so it appears). And even one LHD V12V Zagato. Are owners of rarer models thinking of upgrading or baling out of a stagnant or dropping market?

CSK1

1,794 posts

146 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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nickv8 said:
Are owners of rarer models thinking of upgrading or baling out of a stagnant or dropping market?
GT12/GT8/V12 Vantage Zagato owners "upgrading" to an AMG Vantage you mean?

murphyaj

1,251 posts

97 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Slightly out of date example, but I traded in my 2006 Vantage 6 months ago and got as much for it as I paid at a non-franchise dealer two years beforehand. That implies that its value had slightly increased, just enough to cover the dealer margin. The cheapest examples are about the same price now, so they don't seem to have moved much since then.

I found it amusing at the time that, including depreciation and servicing, my Aston was actually cheaper to own than my Wife's Renault Scenic.

bogie

16,875 posts

294 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Dont forget about inflation - say 8% over the last 3 years so a £35k car in 2015 is about £38K now

It does seem that the value of used Astons is keeping pace with inflation from info in this thread...

The base price of £120k vs £80k is pretty much the same when you take into account inflation since 2005.

So the true cost of a Vantage hasn't really gone up at all smile

northernmedia

1,988 posts

160 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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I recently enquired with a main dealer and local specialist re trade in price for my high spec 27k mile 2013 V12VS - both came back with offers of low £60's!
Course it would depend on the deal but gives an idea.
These are currently silly cheap in my opinion.

Bobajobbob

1,559 posts

118 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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northernmedia said:
I recently enquired with a main dealer and local specialist re trade in price for my high spec 27k mile 2013 V12VS - both came back with offers of low £60's!
Course it would depend on the deal but gives an idea.
These are currently silly cheap in my opinion.
Wow that does seem cheap. A bargain in my opinion.

Jon39

Original Poster:

14,355 posts

165 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Bobajobbob said:
northernmedia said:
I recently enquired with a main dealer and local specialist re trade in price for my high spec 27k mile 2013 V12VS - both came back with offers of low £60's!
Course it would depend on the deal but gives an idea.
These are currently silly cheap in my opinion.
Wow that does seem cheap. A bargain in my opinion.

If there is (say) a £10,000 difference between trade and main dealer retail asking price, that seems to indicate a lower retail price than a V12V.

If so, then what do you suggest is the explanation?







Upperworks

1,256 posts

174 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Jon39 said:

If there is (say) a £10,000 difference between trade and main dealer retail asking price, that seems to indicate a lower retail price than a V12V.

If so, then what do you suggest is the explanation?
depends on the market value of a manual gearbox vs more power, better suspension etc. Also the amount of cars of each variant available.

edit - specific to his car, perhaps the higher mielage and adventurous colour are a factor. Might be the specific dealers have similar stock and only want it at a steal.

V8V Pete

2,534 posts

148 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Jon39 said:

Bobajobbob said:
northernmedia said:
I recently enquired with a main dealer and local specialist re trade in price for my high spec 27k mile 2013 V12VS - both came back with offers of low £60's!
Course it would depend on the deal but gives an idea.
These are currently silly cheap in my opinion.
Wow that does seem cheap. A bargain in my opinion.

If there is (say) a £10,000 difference between trade and main dealer retail asking price, that seems to indicate a lower retail price than a V12V.

If so, then what do you suggest is the explanation?
Perhaps they'd heard how many track days it had done?

raceboy

13,616 posts

302 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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V8V Pete said:
Perhaps they'd heard how many track days it had done?
Or were factoring in the price of new ceramics wink , even giving £10k margin that's £10k too low. eek

kev1966900

153 posts

101 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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There has been some softening of V12VS main dealer prices but not to that extent. Retail prices start at £84k + currently so would expect dealer offer to be in the mid £70K's. Original V12V are sitting in the £75-95K range depending on age and mileage so starting to overlap

nickv8

1,433 posts

105 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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CSK1 said:
GT12/GT8/V12 Vantage Zagato owners "upgrading" to an AMG Vantage you mean?
I was thinking the new DBSS. But it wouldn’t surprise me that even GT12 owners would get more real world performance with the new Vantage. Not talking the thrill of driving or status...

nickv8

1,433 posts

105 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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northernmedia said:
I recently enquired with a main dealer and local specialist re trade in price for my high spec 27k mile 2013 V12VS - both came back with offers of low £60's!
Course it would depend on the deal but gives an idea.
These are currently silly cheap in my opinion.
That is low!!! ( depending if you’re a buyer or seller wink ).

Must admit 2015+ flappy paddle V12VS examples also look to be a bargain at the moment, relatively!

northernmedia

1,988 posts

160 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Upperworks said:
Jon39 said:

If there is (say) a £10,000 difference between trade and main dealer retail asking price, that seems to indicate a lower retail price than a V12V.

If so, then what do you suggest is the explanation?
depends on the market value of a manual gearbox vs more power, better suspension etc. Also the amount of cars of each variant available.

edit - specific to his car, perhaps the higher mielage and adventurous colour are a factor. Might be the specific dealers have similar stock and only want it at a steal.
Adventurous colour? Oi wink