Sports pack in v8v
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klee168168

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155 posts

140 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Is there a tremendous difference in drive and handling on a sport pack vs a non sport pack? Is it bumpier? Does it corner tighter? Is it noticeably better handling?

Did they get rid of it past 09-10 because I don’t see many sport package on the newer V8 Vantages.

alscar

10,068 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Not sure this helps or not but I had a SP10 ( V8S) 7 years ago with non sports suspension and on U.K. rubbish quality roads I never found it an issue. In fact I would imagine that driving daily one with sports suspension would have been a pain - literally.
I then switched to a V12S which even in normal setting was a much better ( albeit expensive ) idea.

klee168168

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155 posts

140 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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So a v8v with sport package is really rough compared to one without sport package?
So how does a v8v with sport package compare with a v12v normal?

lukeharding

3,759 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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The sports package isn't a harsh ride in my experience. Easily spent all day in the car with no issues. What is annoying sometimes is that on bumpy roads it seems to telegraph through the car resulting in a feeling of a lot of up and down motion (especially back end).

alscar

10,068 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Not sure I'm qualified to say " really rough " in comparison as I've never had a daily driver V8 with sports suspension.
I've got a GT8 but that has different suspension again and is a toy driven occasionally so not really fair to compare.

klee168168

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155 posts

140 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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lukeharding said:
The sports package isn't a harsh ride in my experience. Easily spent all day in the car with no issues. What is annoying sometimes is that on bumpy roads it seems to telegraph through the car resulting in a feeling of a lot of up and down motion (especially back end).
How does it compare with the non-sport package v8v?

How come the sport package is only available from 2009 - 2011. I heard they got rid of it in 2012. Was it not popular?

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

157 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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klee168168 said:
How come the sport package is only available from 2009 - 2011. I heard they got rid of it in 2012. Was it not popular?
No but the option just changed to Sports Suspension rather than Sports Pack because it didn't include different wheels AFAIK. However Sports Suspension is, in my opinion having owned both, superior to Sports Pack. Better damped and perhaps less "jiggly" - maybe they're more or less the same thing.

You really have to drive both because these things are totally subjective. Sports Suspension/Pack will be way to harsh for some people whereas Comfort suspension will be way to soft and vague for others.

klee168168

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155 posts

140 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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OK I know this will be a bad comparison. My other car was a Honda S2000. Handled well but was a little too bumpy. Is the sport package less harsh/bumpy than the S2000?

Big E 118

2,468 posts

200 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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I have a V8S which comes with the sports suspension and I find it very well damped.

I do find that harshness in ride can be massively improved by choice of tyres though. I've had a number of cars that come on Bridgestone tyres and I always ditch them for a sporty Michelin. As well as grip improving I think the Michelins have a softer sidewall.

lukeharding

3,759 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Big E 118 said:
I have a V8S which comes with the sports suspension and I find it very well damped.

I do find that harshness in ride can be massively improved by choice of tyres though. I've had a number of cars that come on Bridgestone tyres and I always ditch them for a sporty Michelin. As well as grip improving I think the Michelins have a softer sidewall.
I was curious about that as my car is fitted with Bridgestones. Just how much better are the Michelins?

lukeharding

3,759 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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klee168168 said:
How does it compare with the non-sport package v8v?

How come the sport package is only available from 2009 - 2011. I heard they got rid of it in 2012. Was it not popular?
I couldn't say unfortunately as I haven't driven a non sport pack car. Mine is an 08 4.7 with sport pack though, but was a KX registered car.

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

188 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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klee168168 said:
Is there a tremendous difference in drive and handling on a sport pack vs a non sport pack? Is it bumpier? Does it corner tighter? Is it noticeably better handling?

Did they get rid of it past 09-10 because I don’t see many sport package on the newer V8 Vantages.
The parts system shows sports pack front and rear dampers as being an option for 4.7L Vantages from 2007-2012. Vantage S obviously came with sports pack as standard. For stock Vantage (4.7L, SP10) post 2012, the front damper is exactly the same as Vantage S front damper, meaning it’s only the rear damper which transforms a post 2012 car into sports pack. Any spec damper can be fitted to any car (despite what “box changing” franchised dealers might say), so anyone out there with a post 2012 car knows what 2 components to buy to turn the car into SportsPack if it was originally built comfort pack


Big E 118

2,468 posts

200 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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lukeharding said:
I was curious about that as my car is fitted with Bridgestones. Just how much better are the Michelins?
In my opinion they are much better, I've swapped out Bridgestones to Michelins on an R8, a 911 and (Conti's) on the Vantage and noticed a difference in all. Unfortunately the Michelins don't come in V8S sizes (but do in standard V8 sizes I believe).

Both the Michelin Cup 2's and PS4s's are much better in every aspect although may wear a bit quicker.

lukeharding

3,759 posts

120 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Big E 118 said:
In my opinion they are much better, I've swapped out Bridgestones to Michelins on an R8, a 911 and (Conti's) on the Vantage and noticed a difference in all. Unfortunately the Michelins don't come in V8S sizes (but do in standard V8 sizes I believe).

Both the Michelin Cup 2's and PS4s's are much better in every aspect although may wear a bit quicker.
Interesting to know, thanks!

bogie

17,106 posts

303 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Ive had both, non sports suspension for 9 years and sports suspension for last 3 years.

It really depends on your driving style, expectations, what car you are coming from.

I think if you drive a non sports pack car on the road at moderate pace it rides really nice, its a great road going sports car.

When you start to press on a bit (perhaps how you shouldn't drive on the road) then it gets a bit of its depth. If you take it on track then you really notice how soft and compliant it is (for a sports car)

The sports suspension is a bit firmer and occasionally seems too firm on a bumpy B road, fine on a smoother A road though and much better on track, albeit not a "real" track setup.

I have got used to the sports suspension now and if buying again would have it.

From MY 2012.25 sports suspension is standard on roadsters and wider wheels standard on both coupe/roadster, then the S model came out. From 2016 the standard Vantage was dropped, so there is a 3-4 year period where you could have had a non S coupe with non sports suspension

Lots of model info here http://astonmartins.com/car/v8-vantage-4-7-my2012-...



Edited by bogie on Wednesday 24th October 18:33

Gday2

219 posts

154 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Before I bought my V8V I tried one with Sport pack, I love hard suspensions but after driving the Sport pack for a day it was clear for me to buy one with normal suspension which I did and never looked back. I would say Sport pack for track use or masochists smile, standard suspension for every day driving.
End of the day it's a matter of personal preferences.

Cheers

Christian

Edited by Gday2 on Wednesday 24th October 16:28

johnnyBv8

2,482 posts

222 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Gday2 said:
Before I bought my V8V I tried one with Sport pack, I love hard suspensions but after driving the Sport pack for a day it was clear for me to buy one with normal suspension which I did and never looked back. I would say Sport pack for track use or masochists smile, standard suspension for every day driving.
End of the day it's a matter of personal preferences.

Cheers

Christian

Edited by Gday2 on Wednesday 24th October 16:28
In contrast, I went from a 2006 Vantage to a 2009 with Sportspack, and found the Sportspack to be better. I then went to a 2010 Roadster with Sportspack and it seemed better again. Perhaps variable between cars?!

Cold

16,744 posts

121 months

Thursday 25th October 2018
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I find the primary ride even on stand suspension to be annoyingly unsupple, so Sportspack feels as though it has springs made from girders.
So glad when Becker made the move to the Cotswolds.

Handyman2009

207 posts

134 months

Thursday 25th October 2018
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klee168168 said:
OK I know this will be a bad comparison. My other car was a Honda S2000. Handled well but was a little too bumpy. Is the sport package less harsh/bumpy than the S2000?
For close comparison, I had a 2004 BMW Z4 Roadster and my 2009 Aston Martin Vantage with Sports Pack is definitely softer than that Z4. I have no problem driving my Vantage 5-6 hrs without stopping but on the other hand my BMW was another story. Hope this help