V8V manual a bit clunky
V8V manual a bit clunky
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klee168168

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155 posts

140 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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After driving my car for two weeks, I got more used to the transmission and clutch. However, shifting still isn’t smooth. I feel like it’s a little clunky when changing gears. Is that typical in the manual tranny?

Speculatore

2,003 posts

266 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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klee168168 said:
After driving my car for two weeks, I got more used to the transmission and clutch. However, shifting still isn’t smooth. I feel like it’s a little clunky when changing gears. Is that typical in the manual tranny?
Not as bad as the manual DB9 but to make it 'More Driveable' you should consider a light weight flywheel and twin plate clutch. There are a few suppliers but I used Bamford Rose.

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

157 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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If you did a poll I bet the majority of V12V owners love their gearbox and the majority of V8V owners are rather indifferent about it. Reality is that it is the same gearbox and it is the clutch that makes virtually all the difference. IMHO the V8 should never have been sold with a heavy flywheel and substandard single plate clutch because they detract considerably from the driving experience.

As Speculatore says, if you really want to enjoy the transmission get a twin plate clutch & lightened flywheel conversion and you'll never look back. Whilst your there put some decent exhaust manifolds on and unlock getting on for 10% more power too.

Edited by V8V Pete on Saturday 8th December 09:13

klee168168

Original Poster:

155 posts

140 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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I believe Velocity AP sells the twin clutch for $4k USD. How much was Bamford Rose?

How much would labor cost?

David W.

1,952 posts

240 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Speculatore said:
Not as bad as the manual DB9 but to make it 'More Driveable' you should consider a light weight flywheel and twin plate clutch. There are a few suppliers but I used Bamford Rose.
It’s not just the clutch/gearbox but the poor tractability of the engine at low revs that doesent help. The SS seems to over come this and was much more satisfying to use in the few goes I had in both V8 and 12 cars with it.
DW

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

157 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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klee168168 said:
I believe Velocity AP sells the twin clutch for $4k USD. How much was Bamford Rose?

How much would labor cost?
You'd have to ask them for a precise figure but about £3000 fitted IIRC. If you have the manifolds done at the same time there is some shared labour so it comes out cheaper overall scratchchin

Manx V8V

482 posts

113 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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My V8V has always been a bit notchy until it warms up, especially first to second gear changes until everything warms up, it also has a bit of transmission lash, feeling as though there is a bit of play in the drive shaft joints, this is most noticeable when crawling in traffic. I got my mechanic who is familiar with AM's to drive it and also to check on the ramp for any play in the drive train, but he reckons it's fine and they all do it.

8Speed

787 posts

97 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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I agree that the twin plate clutch & lightweight flywheel make all the difference but the actual gearbox itself is just fine, better when warmed up after a couple of miles.
Try driving a Moss gearbox or something from the '50s & then you'll appreciate it a bit more rolleyes

8Speed

787 posts

97 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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I agree that the twin plate clutch & lightweight flywheel make all the difference but the actual gearbox itself is just fine, better when warmed up after a couple of miles.
Try driving a Moss gearbox or something from the '50s & then you'll appreciate it a bit more rolleyes

baconsarney

12,441 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Mines a bloody arse from cold, really rubbish... stiff/sticky/hard work and no joy... when it’s warm though it’s like silk, a joy to use.... I’ve never driven another car which has a gearbox so different between hot and cold... why this is I have no idea....

I do know that next clutch will be a twin plate 😊

I’ve never driven a flappy paddle car, but I am a dinosaur... gimme a RWD manual every time please....

That said, I bloody love my Volvo 850 T5 auto Estate.... FWD and five cylinders... makes me smile every time I take it out biggrin

Manx V8V

482 posts

113 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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baconsarney said:
Mines a bloody arse from cold, really rubbish... stiff/sticky/hard work and no joy... when it’s warm though it’s like silk, a joy to use.... I’ve never driven another car which has a gearbox so different between hot and cold... why this is I have no idea....
I think I've read somewhere on here that there is a later spec of gear oil which helps with this, I might get my service guy to swap it out at the next service and try it.

Edit - Here it is, courtesy of our mate 'Redpants' on here https://www.redpants.lol/gear-oils/

Edited by Manx V8V on Saturday 8th December 17:51

vernierMike

397 posts

125 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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It is true, a bit cranky in lower gears when cold but lovely and compliant when warm, a direct analogy I am sure. AMR clutch or equivalent is nice and well worth it, but the same applies to standard clutch.

The ergonomics are a bit 'elbow out' but I love it...

S1-NOS

116 posts

107 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Mine’s the same (56 plate) - stiff and notchy when cold but lovely when warmed up.

I was worried about a transmission judder at low revs but since realised it’s the carbon prop shaft, so I just keep the revs up and I don’t notice it anymore.