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OK - I like the new Vantage, love the DBSS. Both were really starting to sway me towards a future change from the V8VS.
But today I saw pictures of the new Vanquish mid-engined sculpture. If only 90% of that stunning, breathtaking design makes it through to production, I want one. So badly.
I am now going to seriously save up. Regardless of the type of car, I’ve never bought new, ever. But this is the first car I want to own from the factory and keep for life in over 40 years of being on this planet.
An AM-designed V6 sounds perfect and aluminium chassis means it’s more repairable than CF (and not imaginary number expensive in the first place). I’m sure it’s capabilities will be 257% greater than my skill and/or nerve. But, the clincher is that it’s the only car in the past 10+ years which I think is absolutely perfect from EVERY angle. There’s not one aspect which I have to try to forgive. Which means that highlights are the nose, side, tail, top-down view, front 3/4, etc.
You can admire Ferrari and McLaren for being technically ace. Lamborghini for being childish. But none have the complete 110% “want-it” factor of this future car.
Just trying to remind myself that this is a concept. Please make it a reality, AM!
But today I saw pictures of the new Vanquish mid-engined sculpture. If only 90% of that stunning, breathtaking design makes it through to production, I want one. So badly.
I am now going to seriously save up. Regardless of the type of car, I’ve never bought new, ever. But this is the first car I want to own from the factory and keep for life in over 40 years of being on this planet.
An AM-designed V6 sounds perfect and aluminium chassis means it’s more repairable than CF (and not imaginary number expensive in the first place). I’m sure it’s capabilities will be 257% greater than my skill and/or nerve. But, the clincher is that it’s the only car in the past 10+ years which I think is absolutely perfect from EVERY angle. There’s not one aspect which I have to try to forgive. Which means that highlights are the nose, side, tail, top-down view, front 3/4, etc.
You can admire Ferrari and McLaren for being technically ace. Lamborghini for being childish. But none have the complete 110% “want-it” factor of this future car.
Just trying to remind myself that this is a concept. Please make it a reality, AM!
silverspeed said:
And the wings badge is back on the rear - little things hey ! Great looking car - what's that going to sell for £350k-£400k ?
- There are pictures on FB of a green one 
if that takes your fancy.- I thought I heard it was going to be £250/300k but that is probably before options.
- and serious question why does being aluminium bodies make it cheaper to repair than CF. Wasn’t the 310 Vanquish CF bodied.
It does look stunning and can’t wait to see the Volante/Roadster version. Think I might wait for that one
AMVSVNick said:
Finally some enthusiasm 
I thought the "real" petrolheads on here had all died such was the muted response in the other thread which seemed to focus more on AP's clothing and what wasn't launched.
Bravo guys.
It's a very interesting time for the marque, and with them pressing ahead with the approach of trying to compete with the best of the best, and seemingly doing quite well at it, while the cars aren't perhaps everyone's cup of tea, there's at least an appreciation for what they're doing. Perhaps this week's unveiling has helped Aston turn a corner and the two pronged approach of producing 'traditional' GT cars as well as more track focused mid-engine cars is starting to become accepted. I thought the "real" petrolheads on here had all died such was the muted response in the other thread which seemed to focus more on AP's clothing and what wasn't launched.Bravo guys.
In respect of the Vanquish Vision Concept; like I mentioned in the other thread, in concept form at least, it's a very clever piece of design, stitching together enough traditional styling cues of older cars, while remaining forward thinking and looking how a mid-engine Aston would be expected to look. Proportions look spot on and the home-brewed V6 will no doubt sound the business.
The mention of a bonded aluminium chassis makes sense; while a carbon tub would be nice, and would rival McLaren, I'd hazard that the tub on the Valkyrie and 003 isn't something that's easily downsized for a series production car, at this stage at least. Saying that, there's some remarkable technology being developed. The active carbon wing on the AM-RB 003 is something I've never seen before. The video Carfection produced shows it in action - I thought "flight of the navigator" when I first saw it
. The Vantage and DBSS were a shot across the bow of Porsche, Ferrari et al. Now it's taking aim at McLaren, and looks to be hitting all the right notes.
It does look pretty fabulous though I’m definitely not a fan of the show car colour. My only criticism would be that there is danger that all of these mid engine supercars begin to look the same. The clear identity that used to exist between all the heritage car companies is eroding a bit as they all go hyper and mid engine (Lamborghini being the exception).
What’s the price point on this one?
Valkyrie - You can’t afford it
003 - 1 million pounds
Vanquish - £250k
?
What’s the price point on this one?
Valkyrie - You can’t afford it
003 - 1 million pounds
Vanquish - £250k
?
AMVSVNick said:
Finally some enthusiasm I thought the "real" petrolheads on here had all died such was the muted response in the other thread which seemed to focus more on AP's clothing and what wasn't launched.
Bravo guys.
I agree that the response has been somewhat muted. I thought the "real" petrolheads on here had all died such was the muted response in the other thread which seemed to focus more on AP's clothing and what wasn't launched.Bravo guys.
Possibly we needed some time to take it all in as the new design story is indeed breathtaking.
The Vanquish, realistically the only affordable of the three concepts, is stunning but at £250/ 300K is out of reach of most dreamers.
However I realise it is in line with the pricing of similar cars by Ferrari, Lamborghini and McLaren.
The concepts also makes more sense of the styling of the new Vantage which offers a more affordable option for those looking for something different to the traditional AM evolution which is echoed in the DB11 and DBSS..
Well done AM.
Edited by avinalarf on Wednesday 6th March 10:28
Bobajobbob said:
It does look pretty fabulous though I’m definitely not a fan of the show car colour. My only criticism would be that there is danger that all of these mid engine supercars begin to look the same. The clear identity that used to exist between all the heritage car companies is eroding a bit as they all go hyper and mid engine (Lamborghini being the exception).
What’s the price point on this one?
Valkyrie - You can’t afford it
003 - 1 million pounds
Vanquish - £250k
?
I questioned the design language yesterday and got a very stern text from someone in the know banging on about aero etc What’s the price point on this one?
Valkyrie - You can’t afford it
003 - 1 million pounds
Vanquish - £250k
?
Having looked at lots of different pictures overnight if they could just make new Vantage a little more like the WEC car I think the front ends are all pretty cohesive, IMHO.
I think the price points are about right but you have to wonder who will spend £1M on 003 rather than wait for Vanquish @ £250K which in my eyes is the better looking car.
Bobajobbob said:
It does look pretty fabulous though I’m definitely not a fan of the show car colour. My only criticism would be that there is danger that all of these mid engine supercars begin to look the same. The clear identity that used to exist between all the heritage car companies is eroding a bit as they all go hyper and mid engine (Lamborghini being the exception).
What’s the price point on this one?
Valkyrie - You can’t afford it
003 - 1 million pounds
Vanquish - £250k
I think you're around the mark with the price points as I understand it.What’s the price point on this one?
Valkyrie - You can’t afford it
003 - 1 million pounds
Vanquish - £250k
Still to digest more, but just look at the damn concept!!! (Must tell myself it's only a concept... must tell myself it's only a concept...)
IanV12VSRs said:
- and serious question why does being aluminium bodies make it cheaper to repair than CF. Wasn’t the 310 Vanquish CF bodied.
It's more the chassis/tub that affects the cost of repair as understand it. But it still takes a lot more effort and expense to produce a panel in CF than it does from sheet metal once the set-up is done. They're making advances all the time in CF production, but it's nowhere near mass-produce-able compared to metal, even with BMW making some of its higher volume cars with CF components.
ked that right up....think i'll keep mine now for another 3 years.... AMVSVNick said:
I questioned the design language yesterday and got a very stern text from someone in the know banging on about aero etc
Having looked at lots of different pictures overnight if they could just make new Vantage a little more like the WEC car I think the front ends are all pretty cohesive, IMHO.
I think the price points are about right but you have to wonder who will spend £1M on 003 rather than wait for Vanquish @ £250K which in my eyes is the better looking car.
I know of half a dozen with deposits down. The appeal to them appears to be near 1000bhp and the Red Bull engineering connection (oh and the interior is a hit). Oh and for one or two missing out on ValkyrieHaving looked at lots of different pictures overnight if they could just make new Vantage a little more like the WEC car I think the front ends are all pretty cohesive, IMHO.
I think the price points are about right but you have to wonder who will spend £1M on 003 rather than wait for Vanquish @ £250K which in my eyes is the better looking car.
It’s not really a car for me though. I’d like to think I’m an ok driver (don’t we all?). But I’m aware of my limitations and I’d never be able to use it to even half of its potential. And it will need to be used imho. With 500 to be made I can’t see it being an “investment”
Now the New Vanquish? TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY! (In roadster form please)
AMVSVNick said:
I questioned the design language yesterday and got a very stern text from someone in the know banging on about aero etc
Having looked at lots of different pictures overnight if they could just make new Vantage a little more like the WEC car I think the front ends are all pretty cohesive, IMHO.
I think the price points are about right but you have to wonder who will spend £1M on 003 rather than wait for Vanquish @ £250K which in my eyes is the better looking car.
I'd definitely like to see this front end design filter down to the new Vantage. The split "nose and lip" referencing the historic Aston grills without a grill works really well in this new Vanquish whereas, to my eyes at least, it doesn't in the new Vantage. Very subtle differences in proportion and detail make such a big difference.Having looked at lots of different pictures overnight if they could just make new Vantage a little more like the WEC car I think the front ends are all pretty cohesive, IMHO.
I think the price points are about right but you have to wonder who will spend £1M on 003 rather than wait for Vanquish @ £250K which in my eyes is the better looking car.
I also can't help but think that these cars are getting too expensive. At the very top end with limited numbers they will always sell but I can't help but think that the entry point for what are toys in a flooded market may have got a bit toppy.
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