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Wow, just wow.
Speaking as someone who never had any interest in Aston Martins, until the Valkyrie (admittedly built from Unobtainium).
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-gen...
Speaking as someone who never had any interest in Aston Martins, until the Valkyrie (admittedly built from Unobtainium).
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-gen...
AMVSVNick said:
nickv8 said:
I realise logic doesn’t come in to play here, but who else finds the mid-engine Vanquish concept car more beautiful
Totally agreeI agree there’s a lot of similarity. But I don’t think that should really come as a huge surprise:
1. They’re mid-engines cars so both the sloping front and the rear end (with the efficient high exhaust exit) are likely to be common
2. AML are learning from Red Bull with the Valkyrie and applying that knowledge to the later cars
3. It’s the same design team.
It will be interesting to see how close the final Vanquish is to that design, but at the moment it’s looking good. Hoping there’s a nice roadster somewhere in the pipeline
1. They’re mid-engines cars so both the sloping front and the rear end (with the efficient high exhaust exit) are likely to be common
2. AML are learning from Red Bull with the Valkyrie and applying that knowledge to the later cars
3. It’s the same design team.
It will be interesting to see how close the final Vanquish is to that design, but at the moment it’s looking good. Hoping there’s a nice roadster somewhere in the pipeline
RichB said:
What am I missing, all three concepts looked almost identical to me. The only difference I could see was the side vent is reversed on one of them?
Porsche have been doing this for 20 years. Not sure about current models but the Boxster/Cayman/911 all share same front end.Edited by Mako V12V on Thursday 14th March 23:47
Edited by Mako V12V on Thursday 14th March 23:47
Mako V12V said:
RichB said:
What am I missing, all three concepts looked almost identical to me. The only difference I could see was the side vent is reversed on one of them?
Porsche have been doing this for 20 years!!! Not sure about current models but the Boxster/Cayman/911 all share same front end!!
RichB said:
What am I missing, all three concepts looked almost identical to me. The only difference I could see was the side vent is reversed on one of them?
Here are a few differences:-
Valkyrie limit 150 cars V12 hybrid, about £2·4m.
Valkyrie Pro limit 25 cars (track only) V12 hybrid, about £3m.
AM-RB 003 limit 500 coupes V6 turbo hybrid, about £1m.
Vanquish core model V6 turbo, possibly about £250,000.
I guess that on UK roads, they will be equally as fast as each other, so would that make the Vanquish the best buy?
Jon39 said:
Here are a few differences:-
Valkyrie limit 150 cars V12 hybrid, about £2·4m.
Valkyrie Pro limit 25 cars (track only) V12 hybrid, about £3m.
AM-RB 003 limit 500 coupes V6 turbo hybrid, about £1m.
Vanquish core model V6 turbo, possibly about £250,000.
I guess that on UK roads, they will be equally as fast as each other, so would that make the Vanquish the best buy?
Thanks Jon, I'll have to say yes to that question on the basis that it's the only on I could ever aspire to! Valkyrie limit 150 cars V12 hybrid, about £2·4m.
Valkyrie Pro limit 25 cars (track only) V12 hybrid, about £3m.
AM-RB 003 limit 500 coupes V6 turbo hybrid, about £1m.
Vanquish core model V6 turbo, possibly about £250,000.
I guess that on UK roads, they will be equally as fast as each other, so would that make the Vanquish the best buy?
Jon39 said:
Here are a few differences:-
Valkyrie limit 150 cars V12 hybrid, about £2·4m.
Valkyrie Pro limit 25 cars (track only) V12 hybrid, about £3m.
AM-RB 003 limit 500 coupes V6 turbo hybrid, about £1m.
Vanquish core model V6 turbo, possibly about £250,000.
A few other significant differences though:
- the Vanquish has mostly aluminium construction whereas the others are all carbon fibre;
- and you can spot that the Vanquish has normal doors;
- and the hyper cars are 4WD, but not sure about the Vanquish.
If Aston are pitching the Vanquish against the 720S, then it will have to be hybrid though, as it will need 900bhp as a minimum. 720S is a very high bar to aim for, and by 2022 (Vanquish release), the 7xxLT will be out and the replacement hybrid Super Series model imminent.
Ferrari are uncompetitive at present, but their next car after F8 Tributo could change that.
RichB said:
AMVSVNick said:
nickv8 said:
I realise logic doesn’t come in to play here, but who else finds the mid-engine Vanquish concept car more beautiful
Totally agreeBut - to me - the Vanquish is better proportioned (there are differences there) and somehow much more elegantly detailed. Some have compared the Vanquish concept’s tail to a McLaren (elsewhere). And yet that to me is the weakest area of the Macca, whereas it’s a highlight of the Vanquish. I think they are night and day different.
That’s the thing about design. All in the eye of the beholder, and all that.
Mind you... if somebody lobbed the keys to an 003 my way, I think I’d find it in me to give it a loving home
nickv8 said:
But - to me - the Vanquish is better proportioned (there are differences there) and somehow much more elegantly detailed. Some have compared the Vanquish concept’s tail to a McLaren (elsewhere). And yet that to me is the weakest area of the Macca, whereas it’s a highlight of the Vanquish. I think they are night and day different.
Vanquish is meant to be the pretty one, compared to 003 etc, so that's expected. I agree though, that it is VERY pretty.Owning a 720S, I definitely see the broad similarity in the tail design. Although I think it is not at all a weak point
But looks quite different with wing deployed:
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