Holden axed by GM
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Pommy

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14,440 posts

234 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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The Holden brand is no more from 2021

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/hold...

AJB88

14,675 posts

189 months

Pommy

Original Poster:

14,440 posts

234 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Guess this thread is deader than Holden hehe

Hames Junt

555 posts

81 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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No-one cares, could see this happening years ago, yet Australians, as very adolescent people, worshipped at the altar of unsophistication... still do.

Pommy

Original Poster:

14,440 posts

234 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Hames Junt said:
No-one cares, could see this happening years ago, yet Australians, as very adolescent people, worshipped at the altar of unsophistication... still do.
Wow, did an Australian fk your wife or something?

On a serious note, the 1000's of people who are about to lose their jobs care about this.

sisu

2,908 posts

191 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Don't worry mate he thinks he's a dead F1 driver.

Sad to hear, many happy times in a wagon in NZ as a kid playing top trumps in the back throwing chewing gum out the back window trying to hit cars behind us. Sliding around on the vinyl seat and having a great time enjoying the Holden's comforting aspects. Although I am not a fanatic I understand why people are, lots of grown men crying into their beers over this.



Really appreciated the simple things in my childhood when we came to the UK at this time of the year on holiday it was grey, grey and endless grey. Lots of damp Rovers Vitesse's and Mk5 Cortinas that smelt like wet dog although no one had a dog. My cousin in Harpenden trying to impress us as they had a leaky Jag on their "gravel" driveway. Now they have a Velar as the last Range rover ate it's Turbo.

Krikkit

27,595 posts

199 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Pommy said:
On a serious note, the 1000's of people who are about to lose their jobs care about this.
Seems to be about 600 jobs at the moment - they've already closed the plants in the last few years, just the R&D offices left.

Dave Hedgehog

15,370 posts

222 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Krikkit said:
Pommy said:
On a serious note, the 1000's of people who are about to lose their jobs care about this.
Seems to be about 600 jobs at the moment - they've already closed the plants in the last few years, just the R&D offices left.
been shutting dealers left right and centre for ages as well

sales have been nose diving of a cliff for a long time, poor product, low investment, cheaper better products from japan

totally expected

https://www.caradvice.com.au/797541/holden-lowest-...

bobtail4x4

4,091 posts

127 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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where have we heard this before?

Kawasicki

13,818 posts

253 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Hames Junt said:
No-one cares, could see this happening years ago, yet Australians, as very adolescent people, worshipped at the altar of unsophistication... still do.
Not actually true.

Both local Holden and Ford developed products were more sophisticated than their mainstream competition European and USA equivalents.

thatdude

2,660 posts

145 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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What will this mean for the involvement of Holden in australian supercars (V8 touring cars)? Along with Ford, they have been a major partner in the sport.

Pommy

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14,440 posts

234 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Krikkit said:
Pommy said:
On a serious note, the 1000's of people who are about to lose their jobs care about this.
Seems to be about 600 jobs at the moment - they've already closed the plants in the last few years, just the R&D offices left.
Yep, the direct affected is 600 but the connected is 1000's with things like supply chains, service related entities etc.


bristolracer

5,821 posts

167 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Always a shame when a historic name goes.

I understand that most cars are badge engineered these days, and it's only going to happen more and more as we move to the future.

But for our fellow petrolheads in Aus/NZ it will be a sad day.

Krikkit

27,595 posts

199 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Kawasicki said:
Hames Junt said:
No-one cares, could see this happening years ago, yet Australians, as very adolescent people, worshipped at the altar of unsophistication... still do.
Not actually true.

Both local Holden and Ford developed products were more sophisticated than their mainstream competition European and USA equivalents.
If that's true they would've out-sold the other products...

Kawasicki

13,818 posts

253 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Krikkit said:
Kawasicki said:
Hames Junt said:
No-one cares, could see this happening years ago, yet Australians, as very adolescent people, worshipped at the altar of unsophistication... still do.
Not actually true.

Both local Holden and Ford developed products were more sophisticated than their mainstream competition European and USA equivalents.
If that's true they would've out-sold the other products...
And they did, for decades.

aeropilot

38,782 posts

245 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Kawasicki said:
Hames Junt said:
No-one cares, could see this happening years ago, yet Australians, as very adolescent people, worshipped at the altar of unsophistication... still do.
Not actually true.

Both local Holden and Ford developed products were more sophisticated than their mainstream competition European and USA equivalents.
Indeed.

IIRC, haven't GM-USA effectively nicked the Holden platform/design for many of its resurgent and now successful Caddy & Chevy performance models....such as the Camaro etc...??

hman

7,497 posts

212 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Sad times - I’ve had Holden’s since I moved (VFII and now a ZB).

It would be like Vauxhall shutting shop in the UK, plenty of loyalty for a non pretentious brand.

It’s already happened with SAAB in Sweden, now Holden in Australia. GM seem intent on shutting down the local versions of its brands.

Demelitia

688 posts

74 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Hames Junt said:
No-one cares, could see this happening years ago, yet Australians, as very adolescent people, worshipped at the altar of unsophistication... still do.
How do you manage to see where you’re going when looking down your nose so much?

You might not care, but your opinion is irrelevant to quite a lot of people I would imagine.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

252 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Krikkit said:
If that's true they would've out-sold the other products...
Not necessarily. I suspect most car sales are dictated by fashion rather than any other measure. Take the UK for example, do people really consider what's 'better' - even for their own needs - before deciding on white, diesel, German vehicle in style #372? I personally suspect not.

hman

7,497 posts

212 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Yes aussies can be a bit adolescent - but you know what ? that’s better than than acting decades older than you really are.

Lighten up, most aussies are a great laugh - and you know where you are with them, rather than them acting nice to your face but trying to get one up on you behind your back like so many people in the UK do.