Manual Vantage V12 or DBS manual volante prices

[Wattyboy]

Before COVID came in was planning on treating myself(turned 50 last month) to a DBS manual. Held back because of uncertainty but interested in hearing where people think prices could go

Ideally would like a manual DBS volante(virtually impossible to find) so have started to look at the Vantage.

Currently V12 Vantage Volantes manual are just south of 100K - most on market seem low mileage(one at McGurks looks stunning).

Where do people see the price going to? Reluctant to shell out 100k if price is going to 70k in few months

[Calculator]

It’s almost impossible to call. History gives an insight but the current situation quite different (on both sides of the equation).

Demand for discretionary/luxury products will unquestionably fall and with it, prices.

Whilst there are many hoping for a total collapse in used car prices, they forget that this would only be pegged to a much deeper economic crisis.

That said, if you can transact quickly (and probably remotely), there will undoubtably be good deals to be had during the over reaction/panic phase.

[phumy]

And of course all the time that you wait to see how far prices move, its time youre missing out on in the Aston. As the Vantage V12 and the DBS are not classic cars, then inevitabley theyre going to drop in value, as they always have since they rumbled out of the showroom, no one knows how steep that drop will be, not even us humbled owners but at least we have one or the other tucked up ready and waiting to be enjoyed.

[Jon39]

The V12 Vantage Roadster (Vantage model is not called Volante) is a Limited Edition model.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=17...

Consequently the values held up strongly for the first few years. However, there then seemed to be a sudden drop, last year I think.
Where value will go especially now, we obviously don't know, but model rarity does usually command a premium.

Edited by Jon39 on Monday 13th April 16:26

[Kumayama]

Here you have an Manual DBS volante, left hand drive, as with all manuals prices are what you can expect, only higher with volantes.

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

[Wattyboy]

Kumayama said:

Here you have an Manual DBS volante, left hand drive, as with all manuals prices are what you can expect, only higher with volantes.

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

That is a beautiful car but massive price. Not helped by poor exchange rate.

I think the V12 Vantage is more realistic. Obviously not as rare but shown in price

[Beckson]

since the DBS was built as both auto and manual. Might it not be cheaper to buy a well priced auto then convert it to a manual?

[AMVSVNick]

Wattyboy said:

That is a beautiful car but massive price. Not helped by poor exchange rate.

I think the V12 Vantage is more realistic. Obviously not as rare but shown in price

Massive taxes in NL as well, I believe.

[Green9]

....one other option is to do what I did and look for a DB9 Volante manual (60 or so in the UK), buy it for less than a fifth of the price of the DBS in the link above and then have over £200k to play with!

[Cheib]

I’m interested in a Manual Vantage V12 or a DBS Manual too. I’d love a Vantage S Manual Roadster but I am guessing they’re serious money....something about the DBS I just love though. I was reading an old thread yesterday, someone who had owned both said they preferred the drive of the DBS, from what I have read the V12 S is a fairly big improvement on the V12 Vantage ?

[The V12 Way]

Hi, i had a V12V for three years and now have a V12S. The V12V was a lovely car, 6 speed manual, it had been upgraded with exhaust etc and was a good drive. The V12S is the semi auto box, not driven many miles yet but apart from the box and updated sat nav its difficult to say there is a lot of difference. If i was in the position to buy another i would go for a 2012 6 speed V12V if i could find the right spec

[Beckson]

Would it be feasible to buy an auto DBS and swap to the 6 speed manual? I assume couldn't be that bad as all the parts are out there etc.

Same with the v12VS since parts are available?

[IanV12VSRs]

The V12 Way said:

Hi, i had a V12V for three years and now have a V12S. The V12V was a lovely car, 6 speed manual, it had been upgraded with exhaust etc and was a good drive. The V12S is the semi auto box, not driven many miles yet but apart from the box and updated sat nav its difficult to say there is a lot of difference. If i was in the position to buy another i would go for a 2012 6 speed V12V if i could find the right spec

Steve, They are quite different cars. The adaptive suspension on the V12S makes a huge difference and delivers the power in the car far better. Having had both the S is the far better car. Of course, and then there is the 7 speed manual...... In reality the SS3 is the better car. Enjoy it!!!

[AdamV12AMR]

I think time will look kindly on the original V12 Vantage Roadster.

Limited to 101 units, with individually numbered sill plaques; all the ones I've seen have been beautifully spec'd.

It also has the more classic 6 speed 'box with the 'inimitable' (!) V12V / DBS manual gearknob.

There are a couple in the dealer network at the moment for £95-£100k. I also know of one which may be coming up for private sale.

[vpr]

I have a 2013 V12v 6speed and a 2010 DBS volante TT

I find the V12 v infinitely more fun to drive, more compact and agile. I realise the DBS not being a manual might detract from a more engaging drive but it doesn’t feel as agile. Love the look though

Would be interested to know the cost of a manual conversion

Edited by vpr on Saturday 18th April 20:21

[cayman-black]

The V12 Way said:

Hi, i had a V12V for three years and now have a V12S. The V12V was a lovely car, 6 speed manual, it had been upgraded with exhaust etc and was a good drive. The V12S is the semi auto box, not driven many miles yet but apart from the box and updated sat nav its difficult to say there is a lot of difference. If i was in the position to buy another i would go for a 2012 6 speed V12V if i could find the right spec

I drove the seven speed last year and when i was looking for mine i also drove the DBS.
For me the six speed box is far better and i just love the lever, as for the DBS a lovely car but once again a six speed V12V drives better and is a little more agile. I also find the suspension set up on the original car just perfect/.
I agree with Adam about the original 101 roadsters if i liked convertible cars this would be the one i would buy.

[Cheib]

So it seems like the consensus is the Vantage is the better drivers car...which you would expect given the size of the two cars. Also seems like the 6 speed box has a lot of fans compared to the 7 speed in the S. It sounds like the SS III box is very much like the SMG II box in my E46 M3 that I had many years ago...you had to feather the throttle in that and it really wasn’t great in Drive/Auto mode. Actually quite enjoyed its quirky nature at the time as it was “cutting edge” which seems laughable now.

As someone said need to drive them all...not easy on older used cars. Although I am guessing dealers will be happy to accommodate when we get back to relative normality

[woodsypedia]

Another +1 for the 6 speed V12V. Wonderful agile car and superb fun to drive. I was tempted to upgrade to the S, and agree with others the suspension is better, but the gearbox isn’t great. The spring positioning also makes it ‘challenging’ to get the shift right at first. If you get it wrong (and this can happen easily) it’s going to need to an expensive mistake.

The roadsters are beautiful and with only 101 - I’d say a safe bet for the future. I love the lines of the coupe so they’re not for me.

Good luck. Whatever you chose you won’t be disappointed.

Woodsypedia. Out.

[chrisstern]

Objectively the Vantage is probably the more exciting drive and with only 101 out there the safer financial bet. I was tempted to change from my DBS to one, but then I got home and looked at the DBS in the drive, where it looks every inch the epitome of top of the range Aston beauty and brutality and know the Vantage could never give me the same feeling.

[KevinBird]

chrisstern said:

Objectively the Vantage is probably the more exciting drive and with only 101 out there the safer financial bet. I was tempted to change from my DBS to one, but then I got home and looked at the DBS in the drive, where it looks every inch the epitome of top of the range Aston beauty and brutality and know the Vantage could never give me the same feeling.

Yep, just change the springs and dampers and the DBS is the better car