Old fuel. DBS NFG
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vpr

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3,933 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Decided to dig the DBS out from its 2 year slumber and its Is running very lumpy with a definite misfire of more than 1 pot.

I only ever run it on super duper but would 2 year old fuel be the problem.

Anyone else experienced similar?

Manx V8V

482 posts

112 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Most probably stale fuel, you might get away with fuelling up with fresh and adding a bottle of injector cleaner.

Aldhun

230 posts

113 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Modern fuel goes off in a couple of weeks. For prolonged storage it is advisable to add a fuel stabiliser.

If the tank is part full; fill it up; drive a lot and fil up to dilute the old fuel with new.

vpr

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3,933 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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I thought super duper in a sealed tank wouldn’t be so bad but there wasn’t much fuel in it.

I topped it up with A fresh 40 litres And eventually it cleared on all cylinders and us good now. Took a while though

petop

2,408 posts

196 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Aldhun said:
Modern fuel goes off in a couple of weeks. For prolonged storage it is advisable to add a fuel stabiliser.

If the tank is part full; fill it up; drive a lot and fil up to dilute the old fuel with new.
Sorry but it does not "go off" after a few weeks. Light ends do indeed reduce as the fuel ages but its a lot longer than a few weeks. The storage environment can make a difference as well how much you have in the tank. But in the OP's case, yes 2 year old fuel will certainly not be in tip-top shape.

Aldhun

230 posts

113 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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petop said:
Aldhun said:
Modern fuel goes off in a couple of weeks. For prolonged storage it is advisable to add a fuel stabiliser.

If the tank is part full; fill it up; drive a lot and fil up to dilute the old fuel with new.
Sorry but it does not "go off" after a few weeks. Light ends do indeed reduce as the fuel ages but its a lot longer than a few weeks. The storage environment can make a difference as well how much you have in the tank. But in the OP's case, yes 2 year old fuel will certainly not be in tip-top shape.
In a vented fuel tank it is weeks, in a sealed container it is 3-6 months

john ryan

542 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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It does depend on the car, and particularly imo the state of the ignition system. I have two 1920's cars that have no problems in starting instantly on fuel more than 12 months old. My 70's Ford v6 has started instantly after 3 months. My V8V has year old fuel, yet started as normal yesterday.

vpr

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3,933 posts

268 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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A year old in my cars is not an issue. I was led to believe that super has better lasting qualities

petop

2,408 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Aldhun said:
petop said:
Aldhun said:
Modern fuel goes off in a couple of weeks. For prolonged storage it is advisable to add a fuel stabiliser.

If the tank is part full; fill it up; drive a lot and fil up to dilute the old fuel with new.
Sorry but it does not "go off" after a few weeks. Light ends do indeed reduce as the fuel ages but its a lot longer than a few weeks. The storage environment can make a difference as well how much you have in the tank. But in the OP's case, yes 2 year old fuel will certainly not be in tip-top shape.
In a vented fuel tank it is weeks, in a sealed container it is 3-6 months
Not sure where you get your 3-6months from. Whilst you may not think its relevant in the civilian commercial world, military petrol only needs to be re-tested at 12 months in static storage tanks or containers. The military actually put a more robust testing criteria in due to the fact it needs the stocks at a moments notice so having lots of spare fuel that cannot be used is detrimental to its capability. Military petrol is not different from normal unleaded you buy in the garage so why you need to worry about fuel after 3-6 months nevermind a few weeks i am not sure.
Without blowing my trumpet, fuel supply and how you should store it in UK or rubbish parts of the world was my job for 28yrs.

cayman-black

13,268 posts

246 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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So, in this case, are we better off storing our cars with very little fuel in the tank?

Emilio Largo

768 posts

141 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Generally speaking not recommended because a filled up tank will inhibit rust in the tank. It seems these are conflicting goals: Rust prevention vs. damaged engine parts, fuel pipes etc. by old fuel. Hence the advice in the owner´s manual for storage periods exceeding six months to leave as little fuel in the tank as necessary for storage.

Well, my own winter storage period is seven months and before that I would fill the tank up completely (Aral Ultimate RON 102). And it will take a looong time until that fuel has been consumed in the following season. I hope this will not lead to problems ...?