F-Type to Vantage
Discussion
I currently have an F-Type V6S convertible and I’m thinking of selling it in favour of a Vantage V8 Roadster - before electric cars take over the world! It’ll be my first V8 ...
Ideally, the car will be a 2007-2009 4.3l manual with less than 40-50K miles, any colour other than black and clear rear lights would be a nicety! Heated seats are a must. I only ever raise the roof of the storm has a name ...
A few questions:
-Has anyone made the same move from F-Type to Vantage? JayEmm suggests the Vantage is the better drive and more special, and I don’t mind the lack of tech. Thoughts? Do you miss the F?
-I could stretch to a 4.7l, but I’d more than likely have to forego the manual gearbox. I enjoy the ZF8 with paddles in the F! How does the SportShift compare? Is it a bit like the Duomatic in a Fiat - another robotised manual?
-Servicing. AM Works is nearby to me. I’d expect bills of around £650-1K/annum. A couple of people on the AM FB groups carry out their own servicing. I have a friend who is a mechanic and has rebuilt V8/V12 engines on various luxury/high end cars. He could happily service a Vantage, but obviously the stamp wouldn’t be a specialist. Am I likely to lose a lot come resale if I go down this route?
Cheers!
Ideally, the car will be a 2007-2009 4.3l manual with less than 40-50K miles, any colour other than black and clear rear lights would be a nicety! Heated seats are a must. I only ever raise the roof of the storm has a name ...
A few questions:
-Has anyone made the same move from F-Type to Vantage? JayEmm suggests the Vantage is the better drive and more special, and I don’t mind the lack of tech. Thoughts? Do you miss the F?
-I could stretch to a 4.7l, but I’d more than likely have to forego the manual gearbox. I enjoy the ZF8 with paddles in the F! How does the SportShift compare? Is it a bit like the Duomatic in a Fiat - another robotised manual?
-Servicing. AM Works is nearby to me. I’d expect bills of around £650-1K/annum. A couple of people on the AM FB groups carry out their own servicing. I have a friend who is a mechanic and has rebuilt V8/V12 engines on various luxury/high end cars. He could happily service a Vantage, but obviously the stamp wouldn’t be a specialist. Am I likely to lose a lot come resale if I go down this route?
Cheers!
You need to drive the Vantage. Night and day compared to the Jaguar. Jaguar is much more of a luxury car, the Vantage is harder for lack of a better description, more sports car. ZF8 is automatic, Vantage is automated manual, can't compare the 2. I would not worry about a stamp for service, doubt it would affect resale. I have not owned an F type, but did cross shop the R before I bought and totally different cars. On long trips or as a daily driver, Jaguar would be more enjoyable. As a special car Aston is the car to pick.
I've not owned an F type but have driven several - 4, 6 and 8 cylinder cars on long runs in Germany. I have a V12V and appreciate they are heavier on the front end but the main difference between F type and vantage is driving position. You feel a lot lower in the vantage, a much much sportier feel. Cabin very comparable in terms of space and functionality, more pronounced tunnel between the two seats though as you're sitting much lower.
I've not driven sport shift AM, but have heard good things about the later ones (in the S models it's argued by many to be better than the manual).
Really you need to drive one - or just do what I do and buy one blind and enjoy.
I've not driven sport shift AM, but have heard good things about the later ones (in the S models it's argued by many to be better than the manual).
Really you need to drive one - or just do what I do and buy one blind and enjoy.
Hi,
I agree with comments and am lucky enough to own both - V8V 4.7 2010MY manual and 21MY P450 AWD V8.
The jag is great, easy to drive, even the wife loves driving it! I use it as my daily driver, it’s refined enough and a lovely car.....but it’s not an Aston!
Yes I know the tech is different, but the feeling I get when I step into the Aston is completely different. The noise doesn’t compare, I love the brutality and how the Aston makes you work when you drive it!
No contest for me Aston all day long.......just waiting until V12V replaces the V8 in the future.
Just my thoughts
I agree with comments and am lucky enough to own both - V8V 4.7 2010MY manual and 21MY P450 AWD V8.
The jag is great, easy to drive, even the wife loves driving it! I use it as my daily driver, it’s refined enough and a lovely car.....but it’s not an Aston!
Yes I know the tech is different, but the feeling I get when I step into the Aston is completely different. The noise doesn’t compare, I love the brutality and how the Aston makes you work when you drive it!
No contest for me Aston all day long.......just waiting until V12V replaces the V8 in the future.
Just my thoughts
AstonV said:
You need to drive the Vantage. Night and day compared to the Jaguar. Jaguar is much more of a luxury car, the Vantage is harder for lack of a better description, more sports car. ZF8 is automatic, Vantage is automated manual, can't compare the 2. I would not worry about a stamp for service, doubt it would affect resale. I have not owned an F type, but did cross shop the R before I bought and totally different cars. On long trips or as a daily driver, Jaguar would be more enjoyable. As a special car Aston is the car to pick.
idealstandard said:
I've not owned an F type but have driven several - 4, 6 and 8 cylinder cars on long runs in Germany. I have a V12V and appreciate they are heavier on the front end but the main difference between F type and vantage is driving position. You feel a lot lower in the vantage, a much much sportier feel. Cabin very comparable in terms of space and functionality, more pronounced tunnel between the two seats though as you're sitting much lower.
I've not driven sport shift AM, but have heard good things about the later ones (in the S models it's argued by many to be better than the manual).
Really you need to drive one - or just do what I do and buy one blind and enjoy.
I've not driven sport shift AM, but have heard good things about the later ones (in the S models it's argued by many to be better than the manual).
Really you need to drive one - or just do what I do and buy one blind and enjoy.
lee-0kmtw said:
Hi,
I agree with comments and am lucky enough to own both - V8V 4.7 2010MY manual and 21MY P450 AWD V8.
The jag is great, easy to drive, even the wife loves driving it! I use it as my daily driver, it’s refined enough and a lovely car.....but it’s not an Aston!
Yes I know the tech is different, but the feeling I get when I step into the Aston is completely different. The noise doesn’t compare, I love the brutality and how the Aston makes you work when you drive it!
No contest for me Aston all day long.......just waiting until V12V replaces the V8 in the future.
Just my thoughts
I think you guys just sold the Vantage to me ... I agree with comments and am lucky enough to own both - V8V 4.7 2010MY manual and 21MY P450 AWD V8.
The jag is great, easy to drive, even the wife loves driving it! I use it as my daily driver, it’s refined enough and a lovely car.....but it’s not an Aston!
Yes I know the tech is different, but the feeling I get when I step into the Aston is completely different. The noise doesn’t compare, I love the brutality and how the Aston makes you work when you drive it!
No contest for me Aston all day long.......just waiting until V12V replaces the V8 in the future.
Just my thoughts
Hopefully my F-Type will sell pretty quick - I'm also looking to sell my monstrous turbocharged Lotus Elise S1. I'm really looking forward to Aston ownership and finally having a V8! (I'm 35 years old, but better now than never!)
Drive one before you sell the F-type.
I owned the 4.3 and test drive the V6S and V8 F-type. The Aston did feel like a much more special car to own but I really rated the F-type. I think the V6S sounds amazing - I found the Aston made a better noise outside but was too quiet inside (coupe). The automatic really suited the F-type and made it more fun I think because the ratios felt really short and you could go up and down the gearbox listening to the noise! The Vantage felt a bit more GT to me. I think it’s the best of both worlds to have both at some point, so no reason not to make the change!
I owned the 4.3 and test drive the V6S and V8 F-type. The Aston did feel like a much more special car to own but I really rated the F-type. I think the V6S sounds amazing - I found the Aston made a better noise outside but was too quiet inside (coupe). The automatic really suited the F-type and made it more fun I think because the ratios felt really short and you could go up and down the gearbox listening to the noise! The Vantage felt a bit more GT to me. I think it’s the best of both worlds to have both at some point, so no reason not to make the change!
I didn't own an F type but I hired one in the UK for an extended period of time, P380 coupe. I currently own a V8 4.3 roadster with SportShift. I am old school, a supercar in my book should have less tech and more drama so yes, in this regard the Vantage wins hands down.
-If you drive in a race track then the sportshift is better. In the real world I don't think so. It is jerky at low speed and violent when going fast. I also had to change the clutch which cost around 4K.
- Servicing is very expensive here in Saudi Arabia. If you don't really need the dealer stamp then many parts are interchangeable with much cheaper cars. For a minor service you need 9 liters 10w60 oil of any kind, preferably Castrol, an oil filter which can be had for around 25 pounds including washers, cabin filters which are the same as many Mazdas including rx8 and air filters (every 20k miles) which can be had from Blue Print.
The Aston has been incredibly reliable and trouble-free in the two and a bit years of ownership. It still gives my pleasure every time I accelerate in a tunnel with the roof down.
-If you drive in a race track then the sportshift is better. In the real world I don't think so. It is jerky at low speed and violent when going fast. I also had to change the clutch which cost around 4K.
- Servicing is very expensive here in Saudi Arabia. If you don't really need the dealer stamp then many parts are interchangeable with much cheaper cars. For a minor service you need 9 liters 10w60 oil of any kind, preferably Castrol, an oil filter which can be had for around 25 pounds including washers, cabin filters which are the same as many Mazdas including rx8 and air filters (every 20k miles) which can be had from Blue Print.
The Aston has been incredibly reliable and trouble-free in the two and a bit years of ownership. It still gives my pleasure every time I accelerate in a tunnel with the roof down.
Also, you can watch these if you haven't already:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruFXKEIPTvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMAglJH09I8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruFXKEIPTvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMAglJH09I8
Ikemi said:
I think you guys just sold the Vantage to me ...
(I'm 35 years old, but better now than never!)
(I'm 35 years old, but better now than never!)
A great choice, which I am sure you will enjoy very much. A car which looks just as beautiful today, as it did when first unveiled to stunned fans in 2003.
I don't know how long you have been following this forum Chris, but you are clearly one of the 'new younger customers', who Andy Palmer (ex-CEO) aimed his new Vantage at.
Do you like the styling of the new Vantage?
Traditional Aston Martin owners are hesitant (revealed by sales not achieving target), but I just wonder what younger enthusiasts might think.
AP's actual phrase was, 'new younger wealthy customers'. He was worried that some of the old codgers on here, who had been so loyal and repeatedly bought many new Aston Martins, would steadily expire.
Unfortunately for him, he overlooked how very few new younger customers there are, who have already paid off their mortgages before 30 years of age, and who also have a spare £150,000, which they are desperate to give to Aston Martin.
Edited by Jon39 on Friday 26th March 13:11
Jon39 said:
A great choice, which I am sure you will enjoy very much. A car which looks just as beautiful today, as it did when first unveiled to stunned fans in 2003.
I don't know how long you have been following this forum Chris, but you are clearly one of the 'new younger customers', who Andy Palmer (ex-CEO) aimed his new Vantage at.
Do you like the styling of the new Vantage?
Traditional Aston Martin owners are hesitant (revealed by sales not achieving target), but I just wonder what younger enthusiasts might think.
AP's actual phrase was, 'new younger wealthy customers'. He was worried that some of the old codgers on here, who had been so loyal and repeatedly bought many new Aston Martins, would steadily expire.
Unfortunately for him, he overlooked how very few new younger customers there are, who have already paid off their mortgages before 30 years of age, and who also have a spare £150,000, which they are desperate to give to Aston Martin.
Edited by Jon39 on Friday 26th March 13:11
Honestly, the biggest things keeping me out of the new Vantage are:
1.Price
2.The Mercedes engine
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