V12 Vantage Zagato Heritage twins video.
V12 Vantage Zagato Heritage twins video.
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cayman-black

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AdamV12V

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206 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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WOW!

Superb vid, very enjoyable - thanks for posting.

I assume these must now all be delivered and registered with the Euro6 regs? Anyone know how many pairs ended up in the UK?

SHIFTY

997 posts

265 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Nice video.

Only 19 pairs being made uses an original Vantage V12S as the baseline for the car so 38 V12S taken off the road for modification (according to Evo magazine).

AdamV12V

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Monday 17th May 2021
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SHIFTY said:
Nice video.

Only 19 pairs being made uses an original Vantage V12S as the baseline for the car so 38 V12S taken off the road for modification (according to Evo magazine).
Ahh, so pre-registered vehicles then! That explains how they get around the emissions regs.

Given the original V12 Vantage Zagato was announced to be 101 units, but only 61 ended up being made, you would have thought making one more pair, to get back to the original total of 101 may have made some sense...

Jon39

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172 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Thank you for posting the vid.

St. Gallen certainly become involved on some interesting projects.

During the reviewers drive, he mostly talked about the exhaust noise, not how special the Zagato is.
Seemed a slightly odd commentary, because he could have that identical exhaust noise driving experience, for a fraction of the cost.


AdamV12V said:
Ahh, so pre-registered vehicles then! That explains how they get around the emissions regs.

Given the original V12 Vantage Zagato was announced to be 101 units, but only 61 ended up being made, you would have thought making one more pair, to get back to the original total of 101 may have made some sense...

I don't know whether it is pure coincidence, but I was told 63 Vantage Zagatos were built (not 61).
Therefore 63 + 19 pairs = 101, the original intended production.

Do 19 pairs represent any other significant Zagato number?






Edited by Jon39 on Monday 17th May 12:03

AdamV12V

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Monday 17th May 2021
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Jon39 said:

Thank you for posting the vid.

St. Gallen certainly become involved on some interesting projects.

During the reviewers drive, he mostly talked about the exhaust noise, not how special the Zagato is.
Seemed a slightly odd commentary, because he could have that identical exhaust noise driving experience, for a fraction of the cost.
Agreed, but it's probably as simple as the fact he's never driven a 595bhp spec V12 with a secondary cat bypass and the full Titanium exhaust... I know he did a video on the AMR Rapide, which like the AMR Vantage, Vanquish S and Vanquish Zags has the 595bhp engine, but none of these have either the bypass pipes or the Titanium exhaust fitted as standard.

Anyway, I don't think these Zag's are just about the VFM. Even picking up mint GT12 would leave you with a lot of spare change, but that doesn't detract from the appeal of these - well at least not to me.

A little more about them here https://www.r-reforged.com/heritagetwins.

Jon39 said:

I don't know whether it is pure coincidence, but I was told 63 Vantage Zagatos were built (not 61).
Therefore 63 + 19 pairs = 101, the original intended production.

Do 19 pairs represent any other significant Zagato number?
Maybe they are basing it on the "63" count then, would make sense. According to Astonmartins.com there were 61 production V12V Zag's 2 Pre-Prod and 2 Race Prototypes, so if either the pre-prod or race protos are included then you have 63 over the prod number I was referring to.

https://astonmartins.com/car/v12-zagato/

Presumably the factory must have licensed them make last few cars?




yellow_tang

365 posts

240 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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AdamV12V said:
Maybe they are basing it on the "63" count then, would make sense. According to Astonmartins.com there were 61 production V12V Zag's 2 Pre-Prod and 2 Race Prototypes, so if either the pre-prod or race protos are included then you have 63 over the prod number I was referring to.

https://astonmartins.com/car/v12-zagato/

Presumably the factory must have licensed them make last few cars?
Perhaps the 63 includes the couple of V8V Zags that were made?

JohnG1

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234 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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yellow_tang said:
AdamV12V said:
Maybe they are basing it on the "63" count then, would make sense. According to Astonmartins.com there were 61 production V12V Zag's 2 Pre-Prod and 2 Race Prototypes, so if either the pre-prod or race protos are included then you have 63 over the prod number I was referring to.

https://astonmartins.com/car/v12-zagato/

Presumably the factory must have licensed them make last few cars?
Perhaps the 63 includes the couple of V8V Zags that were made?
Which V8V Zagato?

Jon39

14,921 posts

172 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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AdamV12V said:
Maybe they are basing it on the "63" count then, would make sense. According to Astonmartins.com there were 61 production V12V Zag's 2 Pre-Prod and 2 Race Prototypes, so if either the pre-prod or race protos are included then you have 63 over the prod number I was referring to.

https://astonmartins.com/car/v12-zagato/

Presumably the factory must have licensed them make last few cars?

Perhaps I should change the 63 number in my table.
If anyone knows the correct figure, it would be Tim Cottingham.

I notice Tim said Coventry Prototype Panels bought Zagato in 2011. CPP subsequently ran into financial trouble, so what then happened to Zagato I don't know.
CPP also tried to revive Spyker, but that did not go too well.



yellow_tang

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Monday 17th May 2021
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JohnG1 said:
Which V8V Zagato?
This and 3 others I believe...

https://www.secret-classics.com/en/aston-martin-v8...

Beckson

445 posts

80 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Wow that's crazy. No idea they made a V8 version of the Zagato. Can't imagine why you'd want that over a v12... but still quite impressive.

Makes you wonder if there are " secret" AM special projects out there from recent times, that no one really knows about.

Jon39

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Monday 17th May 2021
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Beckson said:
Wow that's crazy. No idea they made a V8 version of the Zagato. Can't imagine why you'd want that over a v12... but still quite impressive.

Makes you wonder if there are " secret" AM special projects out there from recent times, that no one really knows about.

Those V8 Q Vantages came to light when the 4th car was offered for sale last year.
The model is on the Vantage table - ref. 2014.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Another one off customer commission was openly revealed by AML, at Goodwood I think.
Vantage GT 12 Roadster. A Swiss owner.
There was a surprise later though, when a second VGT12R appeared. The Swiss owner had also bought the prototype of his own car!

Long-term Middle East investors became involved with AML when Ford sold. It is rumoured that they might have occasionally bought secret models. After AML became a listed company, the annual report had to became far more comprehensive, and I think there have been references in there, to director purchases of motor vehicles.