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Octavarium

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606 posts

136 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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The new Smart Concept #1. Also available in lime essence ...


ExecutiveAction

337 posts

66 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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You can see where they are going with this, and it’s not pretty. The Mercedes haters will be here shortly!

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

206 months

Tuesday 7th September 2021
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Looks like the bas-tard love child of the a mini clubman and the current Vantage....

I assume its going to be battery powered, hence my lack of enthusiasm to google any further information.

BiggaJ

1,264 posts

68 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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It's a Mini with a new front end. Not a good looking car.

oilit

2,806 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Seems like a reasonable outcome from the technology sharing agreement:-

AM gets the controversial engine & infotainment
MB gets the controversial Vantage grilles

Ironically I don’t think that looks too offensive for a shopping trolley

Edited by oilit on Wednesday 8th September 06:53

Jon39

14,921 posts

172 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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There seem to be more examples these days, of very sad looking car front designs.
Why are the designers doing it?
Ì want to be happy on the road.






Octavarium

Original Poster:

606 posts

136 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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AdamV12V said:
Looks like the bas-tard love child of the a mini clubman and the current Vantage....

I assume its going to be battery powered, hence my lack of enthusiasm to google any further information.
Indeed it is/will be battery powered. No further googling necessary.

Bobajobbob

1,599 posts

125 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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I actually prefer it to the front end of the new Vantage. At least they have resolved the shut line across the nose by integrating it with the lights. That particular design feature I like. Otherwise it’s an electric Mini Countryman so take it or leave it.

thebraketester

15,774 posts

167 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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Why do they have to make these cars look so st?

Jon39

14,921 posts

172 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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Bobajobbob said:
I actually prefer it to the front end of the new Vantage. At least they have resolved the shut line across the nose by integrating it with the lights. That particular design feature I like.

There are quite a few examples of Aston Martin models having clearly noticeable bonnet forward shut lines, including the much revered DB5.
The new Vantage was unfortunate to directly follow a predecessor, which has a cleverly concealed forward shut line.


macdeb

8,758 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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thebraketester said:
Why do they have to make these cars look so st?
Because they are. biglaugh

Bobajobbob

1,599 posts

125 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Jon39 said:

There are quite a few examples of Aston Martin models having clearly noticeable bonnet forward shut lines, including the much revered DB5.
The new Vantage was unfortunate to directly follow a predecessor, which has a cleverly concealed forward shut line.

This is one of my bugbears. Many cars have shut lines across the nose and in most cases it compromises the aesthetics significantly (in my opinion). I would not say that the DB5 is one of them. It has a bonnet cut out section that sits in a single front end section including wings and bonnet. The shut lines of the bonnet sit flat, do not cross light to light and do not clash with the lines of the car.

I've never much like the front end of the DB7 and Vanquish for the same reasons. The cut through the nose is horrible to my eyes.



Here's another although the smaller panel gaps improver it a little.



The new Jag F Type is another stinker. What were they thinking? They put so much obvious effort into the design of the car and then slash a perpendicular slash across the most obvious surface.



Ferrari are guilty too but mitigate the impact by having much tighter panel gaps.





If you ignore all the other styling differences you see what the designers probably originally intended for the Vantage before the practicalities of an opening bonnet interfered. Still not the best looking Astons but much better to my eyes.




GingerMunky

1,285 posts

286 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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ExecutiveAction said:
You can see where they are going with this, and it’s not pretty. The Mercedes haters will be here shortly!
Ford used the Aston grill on everything when they owned the AM, seems fair Mercedes can do the same. Not great for AM frown

Toby Tram

425 posts

194 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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I might have to buy one just so that I can stick some sharp teeth on that ‘radiator grille’ just to make it look like Jaws!!!😂

Agent57

2,621 posts

183 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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I agree with the shut line point which was resolved on the DB9 / V8V by extending the bonnet to the edge and on the DB11 they had a complete clamshell.

Ian Callum wanted a clamshell on the DB7 but it was too complex / expensive at the time.

8Tech

2,212 posts

227 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Jon39 said:

There seem to be more examples these days, of very sad looking car front designs.
Why are the designers doing it?



Because they dont need to consider/engineer-in airflow for cooling so it gives them free reign to make them as awful as they want.

LTP

3,101 posts

141 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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8Tech said:
Because they dont need to consider/engineer-in airflow for cooling so it gives them free reign to make them as awful as they want.
This only applies, in part at least, to EV’s