SportShift engine stall
SportShift engine stall
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nickv12

Original Poster:

1,527 posts

112 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Strange thing happened this morning…

Had a 30 min drive and then arrived at a traffic light following 5 mins of 30mph zone. I usually go down the gears to 3rd or 2nd before pulling in both paddles to go into neutral whilst I wait.

This time, I was still in 2nd, slowly decelerating when then engine suddenly cut out at around 5-10 mph. The screen said “Engine Stalled”.

It was no bother at all to restart it and it’s behaved perfectly before and since.

I don’t think there’s any problem and it’s simply one of those things.

But has anyone else experienced this?

V12 2018 AMR Vantage with SportShift III and around 4K miles on the clock.

EVR

2,245 posts

89 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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It happened to me once but it was in a different situation. I was reversing with a full steering lock to the left, up a very slight incline. Did not worried me.

I have a V8V with SS1.

northernmedia

1,988 posts

167 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Yep can happen from time to time.

Remember to pull both paddles twice to properly engage neutral if that's what you're after.
Otherwise, it's still engaged with the clutch depressed.

phumy

5,827 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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northernmedia said:
Yep can happen from time to time.

Remember to pull both paddles twice to properly engage neutral if that's what you're after.
Otherwise, it's still engaged with the clutch depressed.
Where did you get this info from that you need to pull back twice on the paddles to get "N", (got a link to any info?) doesnt say anything like that in the Owners Manual, just says one pull on both paddles and you have neutral. Is neutral actually a gear, i didnt think it was, what does it matter if the clutch is depressed?

LTP

3,091 posts

141 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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northernmedia said:
Yep can happen from time to time.

Remember to pull both paddles twice to properly engage neutral if that's what you're after.
Otherwise, it's still engaged with the clutch depressed.
Pulling both paddles simultaneously and twice in quick succession does not "properly" engage neutral; it's a routine that tells the gearbox not to engage a gear when you key off, so you can push or tow the car.

If you want neutral then just press the 'N' button or pull back one both paddles once. But there's no need and no real benefit, unless you want to be able to blip the throttle.

EVR

2,245 posts

89 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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phumy said:
Where did you get this info from that you need to pull back twice on the paddles to get "N", (got a link to any info?) doesnt say anything like that in the Owners Manual, just says one pull on both paddles and you have neutral. Is neutral actually a gear, i didnt think it was, what does it matter if the clutch is depressed?
It's in the SportShift Driving Guide. Send me a PM and I can send it to you.

nickv12

Original Poster:

1,527 posts

112 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Thanks, EVR and northernmedia for confirming it's happened to you too. Car ran faultlessly for the rest of the journey and am not concerned now.

phumy

5,827 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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EVR said:
It's in the SportShift Driving Guide. Send me a PM and I can send it to you.
PM`d, thanks.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,658 posts

205 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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It’s as LTP said. Pulling the paddles twice in quick succession prevents engaging 1st gear when the key is removed. Neutral is engaged by pulling both paddles once.

LTP

3,091 posts

141 months

Friday 11th March 2022
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
It’s as LTP said. Pulling the paddles twice in quick succession prevents engaging 1st gear when the key is removed. Neutral is engaged by pulling both paddles once.
To be really, really pedantic, if the SSII is in reverse at key-off then the 'box stays in reverse. In all other gears or neutral, it engages 1st at key-off. getmecoat

EVR

2,245 posts

89 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Well, it happened to me again tonight.

I had to reverse uphill a gentle incline on gravel with a full lock, outside of a restaurant, the car stalled three times. Of course I made a fool of myself in front of basically the whole place. biggrin

Damn it that high reverse gear ratio.

What are you guys suggesting in this situation? Avoiding full lock and any accelerator use, if possible?

nickv12

Original Poster:

1,527 posts

112 months

Wednesday 13th April 2022
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EVR said:
Well, it happened to me again tonight.

I had to reverse uphill a gentle incline on gravel with a full lock, outside of a restaurant, the car stalled three times. Of course I made a fool of myself in front of basically the whole place. biggrin

Damn it that high reverse gear ratio.

What are you guys suggesting in this situation? Avoiding full lock and any accelerator use, if possible?
Been away, so didn’t see this earlier.

I know the reverse gearing is about 2x higher than normal, but the system should still cope with auto clutch control - in theory.

Tricky one. You don’t want to pin the throttle and see the scenery race by backwards at 50mph! But never experienced this - but I try to avoid reversing up slopes. Sometimes there’s no choice.

A few weeks ago, I was travelling down the congested M42 (is there a more hateful motorway in the UK?) and met stop/start traffic. One of the few times I used Drive mode (surprisingly good for that situation!). At one point, i decelerated from around 30mph to standstill. Just before stopping, the engine stalled… but automatically restarted a second later. No hassle. So not just in manual mode.

Still not fussed, but not definitive rhyme or reason yet.

EVR

2,245 posts

89 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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No worries. Yeah, it never happened to me while driving forward and it never happened to you while reversing. It is weird.

In my case, I really think the major culprit was full lock. High reverse gear plus having to "drag" the front wheels up an incline = stall.

Oh well, let's file this in "yet another quirk that adds on the car personality"? biggrin

nickv12

Original Poster:

1,527 posts

112 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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EVR said:
No worries. Yeah, it never happened to me while driving forward and it never happened to you while reversing. It is weird.

In my case, I really think the major culprit was full lock. High reverse gear plus having to "drag" the front wheels up an incline = stall.

Oh well, let's file this in "yet another quirk that adds on the car personality"? biggrin
Yep - I can see full lock being added to the uphill resistance contributing.

I think SportShift was also way ahead of its time. How they added "AI crowd detection" for maximum embarrassment is a wonder of modern engineering wink

EVR

2,245 posts

89 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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nickv12 said:
I think SportShift was also way ahead of its time. How they added "AI crowd detection" for maximum embarrassment is a wonder of modern engineering wink
Ahah that's a very good one!