DB11 V12-Suitable oil
DB11 V12-Suitable oil
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funboxster

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218 posts

152 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Hi all

My car goes in next month for its 6 year service(the first one I have to pay for) which is going to be £1600! Surprisingly, all the big jobs need doing when the free 5 year servicing runs out(27 litres of coolant change, automatic oil and filter change)

My local dealer wants to charge £225 for 13 litres of Mobil 1 0w20 oil, which they buy in bulk containers. I don't expect to run the car and pay say ford costs, but don't like my pants being pulled down.

I can't seem to get Mobil 1 in 5 litre containers(only 1 litre) and their tech helpline referred me to Moove in the UK, who are a Mobil distributor, but supply Comma oil for retail? Is Comma any good? Halfords do a suitable oil, but I'd be nervous about using.

The oil needs to comply with API SN & ILSAC GF5. Any suggestions or alternatives would be helpful? Thanks in anticipation.

IainWhy

358 posts

181 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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I like shell helix and buy it in 20l drums, however the cost of good oil is higher than it used to be, 40 liters of 10-60 just cost me £300 once the vat was paid, so 7.50 per litre.

This may be of interest but you would need to check the data sheet to satisfy yourself.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273726541440?chn=ps&amp...



LordBretSinclair

4,306 posts

206 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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I buy Shell Helix too.
www.opieoils.co.uk

funboxster

Original Poster:

218 posts

152 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Thanks for your help so far.

Welsh Pirate

215 posts

157 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Does this Mannol match the required spec?

I've been using Mannol for a while with no problems. Probably as cheap as you're likely to get?

Edited by Welsh Pirate on Friday 7th October 21:18

BGB autosport

1,044 posts

216 months

Friday 7th October 2022
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Not sure if the grade you're after, I picked up three of these for my last oil change

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B071G118KZ?psc=1&...


Edited by BGB autosport on Saturday 8th October 19:24

Ninja59

3,691 posts

141 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Interested to know how they quoted you £1600 and what it covers. As pollen and air filters tend to be separate charges and there is some variance in pricing, that being said I can still not come close to £1600!

Works prices...


Edited by Ninja59 on Saturday 8th October 06:16

funboxster

Original Poster:

218 posts

152 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Thanks so much for this Ninja!
They well and truly tried to turn me upside down and empty my pockets, based on this!!
May I ask where to find this, so that I can refer to again, as no doubt, their prices will increase!

Yr 6 service is basically oil change and filter, brake fluid, optional pollen and air filter(why is air filter(s) an option-an important bit of kit!) auto transmission oil change and filter clean and then usual checks. The coolant change is 27 litres, but is shown as yr5 item in handbook

Since quoting £1600, I went back to them and said, based on the handbook, you should have done the coolant change at yr 5. Oh no, they said, schedules have changed, it's yr 6 now, surprisingly when it becomes chargeable!

They've now quoted £1200, or £975 if I supply the oil. I see that based on them using 208 litre drums of mobil 1, they pay about £5.50 per litre and charge out at £18.

funboxster

Original Poster:

218 posts

152 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Welsh Pirate said:
Does this Mannol match the required spec?

I've been using Mannol for a while with no problems. Probably as cheap as you're likely to get?

Edited by Welsh Pirate on Friday 7th October 21:18
Yes, it does, thank you.

funboxster

Original Poster:

218 posts

152 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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BGB autosport said:
Not sure if the grade your after, I picked up the off these for my last oil change

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B071G118KZ?psc=1&...
Thanks BGB for that.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

141 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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funboxster said:
Thanks so much for this Ninja!
They well and truly tried to turn me upside down and empty my pockets, based on this!!
May I ask where to find this, so that I can refer to again, as no doubt, their prices will increase!

Yr 6 service is basically oil change and filter, brake fluid, optional pollen and air filter(why is air filter(s) an option-an important bit of kit!) auto transmission oil change and filter clean and then usual checks. The coolant change is 27 litres, but is shown as yr5 item in handbook

Since quoting £1600, I went back to them and said, based on the handbook, you should have done the coolant change at yr 5. Oh no, they said, schedules have changed, it's yr 6 now, surprisingly when it becomes chargeable!

They've now quoted £1200, or £975 if I supply the oil. I see that based on them using 208 litre drums of mobil 1, they pay about £5.50 per litre and charge out at £18.
Yes, https://astonmartinworks.com/aston-martin-works-af...

Most dealers now publish the fixed prices on their sites.

The filters side of thing is down to the variable mileages some of these cars do I think, my Vantage is on 15k, but got new filters in the recent Works service (picking up on a cracked weld on a cat as well).

The coolant one is an interesting one, as most of the VH cars is yr5, but I have seen yr6 as well for second century like ours.i might need to check my owners guide for the V8.

Could you PM me the dealer involved though out of pure interest?

funboxster

Original Poster:

218 posts

152 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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Ninja59 said:
Yes, https://astonmartinworks.com/aston-martin-works-af...

Most dealers now publish the fixed prices on their sites.

The filters side of thing is down to the variable mileages some of these cars do I think, my Vantage is on 15k, but got new filters in the recent Works service (picking up on a cracked weld on a cat as well).

The coolant one is an interesting one, as most of the VH cars is yr5, but I have seen yr6 as well for second century like ours.i might need to check my owners guide for the V8.

Could you PM me the dealer involved though out of pure interest?
I have PM'd you Ninja

Dewi 2

1,925 posts

94 months

Saturday 8th October 2022
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After buying my AM, I obtained a 5 litre container from this supplier.
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/

Prices were attractive at the time and delivery was prompt.

There must have been a good omen too, because the oil level has never required topping up!

8Tech

2,210 posts

227 months

Saturday 15th October 2022
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Miller, Fuchs or Motul would all be a good quality oil for you, all available for around £50.00 per 5 litres.

funboxster

Original Poster:

218 posts

152 months

Sunday 16th October 2022
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Thanks for your help with your suggestions. I suppose it's the fear of an unknown make/oil and possibility of an expensive mistake. However, Fuchs, Motul, etc, do conform to API SN and ILSAC GF5(or higher) which is what's stated in the manual, so should be fine.

My local AM dealer is now looking at reducing their £225 charge for 13 litres of oil for me, so will find out what they can offer. Especially when the dealer is buying in bulk and their recommended oil Mobil 1 (which they use) retails for approx £6 per litre in 208 litre form so they'll get it even cheaper.

funboxster

Original Poster:

218 posts

152 months

Monday 17th October 2022
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I bought Comma oil in the end. It's the right viscosity, meets the AM requirements and with the 15% discount, just under £100 delivered for 13 litres.