Fuel additive?

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moktabe

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967 posts

120 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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Taking the car to Ireland for 5 days early April and, as far I'm aware, only 95RON fuel is available over there.

Would the car be ok running on that (2016 Vantage V12S) or is it worth looking into fuel additives?

alabbasi

2,977 posts

102 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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Yes it should be as most engines today have variable valve timing.

AdamV12V

5,175 posts

192 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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ROI or NI?

Id assume NI is the same as the rest of the UK, in that 95RON will be E10 fuel and thus have ethanol in it. It is safe to use with the V12VS, but if you can get E5 super use that instead. No additive is going to remove the ethanol, so personally I wouldn't bother wasting time and dosh on it. Just buy the best fuel you can whilst over there.

Not idea about ROI...

moktabe

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967 posts

120 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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AdamV12V said:
ROI or NI?

Id assume NI is the same as the rest of the UK, in that 95RON will be E10 fuel and thus have ethanol in it. It is safe to use with the V12VS, but if you can get E5 super use that instead. No additive is going to remove the ethanol, so personally I wouldn't bother wasting time and dosh on it. Just buy the best fuel you can whilst over there.

Not idea about ROI...
Driving the Wild Atlantic Way from Sligo down so ROI.

I'm thinking it'll be fine on 95 but thought it worth asking.

Jon39

13,832 posts

158 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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I wondered if ESSO Supreme 99 ethanol free petrol, might be available in Eire.

Not looking too hopeful.
Might not have moved into the self service age yet. - smile





moktabe

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120 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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^^ biggrin

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

67 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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Applegreen Super Unleaded is 97 RON, I believe Maxol also offer 97 RON.

V8V Pete

2,521 posts

141 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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moktabe said:
Taking the car to Ireland for 5 days early April and, as far I'm aware, only 95RON fuel is available over there.
Would the car be ok running on that (2016 Vantage V12S) or is it worth looking into fuel additives?
I'm sure your car's owner's manual will tell you everything you need to know. There's a less polite version of that but we'll keep it clean because this is the AM sub-forum smile

alabbasi said:
Yes it should be as most engines today have variable valve timing.
I'm pretty sure it's got nothing to do with variable valve timing although this was introduced on the V12VS version of the V12 but not present on the V12V version IIRC.

It is having a knock sensor that matters. This was also a new feature of the V12 on V12VS, not present on V12V. The knock sensor allows the engine to adjust to the octane rating of the fuel it burns by adjusting the ignition timing. I'm sure your car will be fine on 95RON fuel, if not quite as fast as with 98-100.


Simpo Two

89,135 posts

280 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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Jon39 said:
Might not have moved into the self service age yet. - smile


Nothing on telly so https://dromorewest.ie/a-short-documentary-about-c...

Jon39

13,832 posts

158 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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Simpo Two said:

Thank you. What a delightful film.

Clever of you to find that.

I have never been to Eire.


steveirl

279 posts

227 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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95 RON is the only petrol available in ROI. Super unleaded was phased out here over a decade ago, I presume because of lack of demand due to higher excise taxes applied by the Irish Govt. The last seller of super unleaded, 98 RON in ROI was Texaco over 10 years ago.

ridds

8,331 posts

259 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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It'll be fine. You may get a few more knock events happen (if you're driving flat out for a long time or tip-in to high load at low engine speed) ambient temps this time of year reduce the potential for this a lot though, it's nothing the ECU cannot handle happily.

ECU Calibrations are over-checked on the worst quality fuels available in the markets they are sold into.

Phil74891

1,085 posts

148 months

Sunday 8th January 2023
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I’ve run my V12VS on 95 for 8 years. No issues whatsoever. I asked the same question to someone in the know (F1 engineer with Aston links) way back then. You may possibly notice a tiny improvement in performance with 98/99 on track, but probably not, and I don’t track my car. No engine damage will occur by using 95, so I wouldn’t worry. It’s marketing hype. However, I do use the lower ethanol E10 (or whatever it is) in my older classic cars.

V8V Pete

2,521 posts

141 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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Phil74891 said:
I’ve run my V12VS on 95 for 8 years.
Ah ha! That'll explain why you couldn't keep up and got lost in Wales Phil biggrin

Phil74891

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148 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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V8V Pete said:
Phil74891 said:
I’ve run my V12VS on 95 for 8 years.
Ah ha! That'll explain why you couldn't keep up and got lost in Wales Phil biggrin
I was on my second lap Pete smile

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

67 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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steveirl said:
95 RON is the only petrol available in ROI. Super unleaded was phased out here over a decade ago, I presume because of lack of demand due to higher excise taxes applied by the Irish Govt. The last seller of super unleaded, 98 RON in ROI was Texaco over 10 years ago.
I filled up in Dublin today at my local Applegreen. 97 has been available for some time. As I said previously I’m pretty sure Maxol also have 97 RON.


darreni

4,207 posts

285 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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I've used Millers Petrol Eco max in my M3 for a few years with good results.

Available from Halfords, Opie oils, Amazon etc.

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-and-...

Jon39

13,832 posts

158 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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moktabe said:
Driving the Wild Atlantic Way from Sligo down, so ROI.

Do call in if you are passing.
Will you have a cup of tea?






Jon39

13,832 posts

158 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Well to be sure.

Carbon Neutral Driving with 97 octane petrol.
Wonderful. I knew the Irish would sort out global warming for us. All it took was a sticker. No need for electric cars now.

Follow me, I am right behind you.

smile


P. ONeill

1,455 posts

67 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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darreni said:
I've used Millers Petrol Eco max in my M3 for a few years with good results.

Available from Halfords, Opie oils, Amazon etc.

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-and-...
Has that not proven to be Snake Oil?