Vanquish buying advice needed
Discussion
Hi folks, after many years I am getting back into an Aston, currently looking at 2013 31k Vanquish, picture below. Looking to see if any you fine folks happen to know the car and could shed any light on it. Ideally would have liked a T-Tronic111 but budget not quite stretching to that.
Like this one though, no doubt the colour not to everyone’s taste
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208269...
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Like this one though, no doubt the colour not to everyone’s taste
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208269...
Edited by Chim on Friday 11th August 12:00
I think the colour looks ok - apart from the yellow bits.
The interior looks a bit tired to me in several places - noticeably the drivers lower dash leather looks odd and stretched. Also in the photo of the the seat controls it looks shabby and I think I can see glue in the gap? Might cause problems to get it out at a later date.
These can of course be rectified if the car ticks all the right boxes otherwise. Proper service record at the right times is crucial, I’d also want to get a inspection done by a trusted independent.
The interior looks a bit tired to me in several places - noticeably the drivers lower dash leather looks odd and stretched. Also in the photo of the the seat controls it looks shabby and I think I can see glue in the gap? Might cause problems to get it out at a later date.
These can of course be rectified if the car ticks all the right boxes otherwise. Proper service record at the right times is crucial, I’d also want to get a inspection done by a trusted independent.
I would presume that both calipers and the body accent/s are more recent addition -not saying that as good or bad.
Interior has the " quilting " but without any contrast stitching colour looks imho a bit " boring ".
For a similar ( within £3k) budget a quick glance at the classifieds shows at least 2 other Vanq's with different spec /milage but both at Main Dealers so if important to you presumably the option of an AM warranty of sorts.
Interior has the " quilting " but without any contrast stitching colour looks imho a bit " boring ".
For a similar ( within £3k) budget a quick glance at the classifieds shows at least 2 other Vanq's with different spec /milage but both at Main Dealers so if important to you presumably the option of an AM warranty of sorts.
W12GT said:
I think the colour looks ok - apart from the yellow bits.
The interior looks a bit tired to me in several places - noticeably the drivers lower dash leather looks odd and stretched. Also in the photo of the the seat controls it looks shabby and I think I can see glue in the gap? Might cause problems to get it out at a later date.
These can of course be rectified if the car ticks all the right boxes otherwise. Proper service record at the right times is crucial, I’d also want to get a inspection done by a trusted independent.
Yes, noted a bit of wear in drivers footwell and the stretching looks odd as you say. Defo get an inspection for her though. Service history looks good.The interior looks a bit tired to me in several places - noticeably the drivers lower dash leather looks odd and stretched. Also in the photo of the the seat controls it looks shabby and I think I can see glue in the gap? Might cause problems to get it out at a later date.
These can of course be rectified if the car ticks all the right boxes otherwise. Proper service record at the right times is crucial, I’d also want to get a inspection done by a trusted independent.
The brake paint colour is deffo aftermarket. OEM coloured calipers do NOT include the handbrake caliper which is always black. Of course you could Q spec anything but I think thats very unlilkely. Non std out of range colouered calipers would have been £10k at the time, so that also reinforced its highly unlikely to be original.
The lime on the front rear spoiler may be just a wrap, so may be easy to remove. Worth checking.
The steering wheel also looks unusual. I have never seen a one-77 steering wheel with alcantara inserts in the bottom sections. I've seen it on the side sections, but never the bottom parts, so again I suspect that's not OEM and therefore begs the question why would that have needed a refurb so soon.
All that said if a car is cheap there is usually a reason behind it and as long as you go into it with your eyes open and aware of what you're buying then all is fine.
The lime on the front rear spoiler may be just a wrap, so may be easy to remove. Worth checking.
The steering wheel also looks unusual. I have never seen a one-77 steering wheel with alcantara inserts in the bottom sections. I've seen it on the side sections, but never the bottom parts, so again I suspect that's not OEM and therefore begs the question why would that have needed a refurb so soon.
All that said if a car is cheap there is usually a reason behind it and as long as you go into it with your eyes open and aware of what you're buying then all is fine.
AdamV12V said:
The brake paint colour is deffo aftermarket. OEM coloured calipers do NOT include the handbrake caliper which is always black. Of course you could Q spec anything but I think thats very unlilkely. Non std out of range colouered calipers would have been £10k at the time, so that also reinforced its highly unlikely to be original.
The lime on the front rear spoiler may be just a wrap, so may be easy to remove. Worth checking.
The steering wheel also looks unusual. I have never seen a one-77 steering wheel with alcantara inserts in the bottom sections. I've seen it on the side sections, but never the bottom parts, so again I suspect that's not OEM and therefore begs the question why would that have needed a refurb so soon.
All that said if a car is cheap there is usually a reason behind it and as long as you go into it with your eyes open and aware of what you're buying then all is fine.
Good spots and many thanks for that, the steering wheel spot is ringing a few alarm bells for me, as you say, why would it be refurbished like thatThe lime on the front rear spoiler may be just a wrap, so may be easy to remove. Worth checking.
The steering wheel also looks unusual. I have never seen a one-77 steering wheel with alcantara inserts in the bottom sections. I've seen it on the side sections, but never the bottom parts, so again I suspect that's not OEM and therefore begs the question why would that have needed a refurb so soon.
All that said if a car is cheap there is usually a reason behind it and as long as you go into it with your eyes open and aware of what you're buying then all is fine.
The rear plate area is covered by what looks like a fake cf sticker which I suspect hides paint damage from previous number plate attachments/stickers.
Agreed on the steering wheel, although I think I have seen that before but cant find an example.
You can get the full build spec off a friendly AM dealership?
Agreed on the steering wheel, although I think I have seen that before but cant find an example.
You can get the full build spec off a friendly AM dealership?
Some prefer the 6 speed, most prefer the 8.
The advantages of more gears are quicker acceleration (lower 1st, more ratios means closer ratios), higher top speed (optimised top gear) and better fuel consumption (higher ratio top gear).
The downside is more cog swapping which perhaps isn’t always in keeping with the sporty nature of the car.
As ever, best to try for yourself.
The advantages of more gears are quicker acceleration (lower 1st, more ratios means closer ratios), higher top speed (optimised top gear) and better fuel consumption (higher ratio top gear).
The downside is more cog swapping which perhaps isn’t always in keeping with the sporty nature of the car.
As ever, best to try for yourself.
Chim said:
So have an option for a 2014 Tronic111 with 41k, looks like a very clean car. How much of an improvement is the 8 speed box over the 6, is it really worth it or noticeable for everyday driving
I have spent far too much time thinking about 6s v 8s over the last couple of years!Where I arrived: coupe - get the 8s every time, assuming your budget runs to it. Volante: might as well get the 6s because it’s less likely you’d want to be driving it in the spirited way that exploits the 8s’s advantages.
OTOH, if you see yourself in a Volante regularly laying 11s off the lights and sitting in the golden zone of 184-203mph on die autobahnen, then 8s all the way!
A very minor data point to help: I ran a V10 S8 with a 6s auto box. I can honestly say I never felt the need for more, shorter ratios even when pushing on, and the Vanquish has quite a bit more torque than an S8. There is the better motorway mpg that the 8s will give to bear in mind, but realistically unless you do a lot of motorway miles I reckon that would get eaten up very swiftly by the mpg around town.
If its a a high days / holidays car and you see yourself doing longer tours or trips then the 8 is the way to go. 75 mph cruise on motorways is an easy 30mpg which gives it a very useful range with a relaxed atmosphere.
The zf 8 spd is also a very nice box
Nothing wrong with the 6 just most find that the 8 is better
If you buy from a non franchise dealer I would strongly recommend the car is inspected first. With so many undertrays you cant see squat underneath even minor oil leaks can be hidden ( yes, I know !!)
From the top again it can be difficult to see the smaller issues unless you know what your looking for. The front discs on the car in question need double checking too, unfortunately the puc quality isn't good enough to zoom right in but you don't want to pick up the replacement costs if they're done for.
That said, it is an attractive price point so could be a decent car so long as your comfortable that you may need to spend a few grand on it come service time and a specialist or main dealer has cast their eyes on it.
The zf 8 spd is also a very nice box
Nothing wrong with the 6 just most find that the 8 is better
If you buy from a non franchise dealer I would strongly recommend the car is inspected first. With so many undertrays you cant see squat underneath even minor oil leaks can be hidden ( yes, I know !!)
From the top again it can be difficult to see the smaller issues unless you know what your looking for. The front discs on the car in question need double checking too, unfortunately the puc quality isn't good enough to zoom right in but you don't want to pick up the replacement costs if they're done for.
That said, it is an attractive price point so could be a decent car so long as your comfortable that you may need to spend a few grand on it come service time and a specialist or main dealer has cast their eyes on it.
Longy00000 said:
If its a a high days / holidays car and you see yourself doing longer tours or trips then the 8 is the way to go. 75 mph cruise on motorways is an easy 30mpg
I used to do a 80mile commute in it every day. 65miles was motorway (75), 10miles country roads (av 50) and 5miles sub urban (40). Two traffic lights, three roundabouts, no traffic. I used to experiment all the time with the morning run to see what sort of mpg I could get. My DB11 V12 is a more efficient engine yet the best I could ever do on my end to end morning run at 70 or 75 was 26mpg. As it was still 25 at 80 that’s the speed I used to travel at.
We really shouldn’t keep trying to claim the n/a V12 can get 30mpg. Driven fairly normally and with mixed driving it’s more like an average of about 17-18. My more efficient and smaller turbo lump averaged 21 in 7k miles of mostly commuting. It is 2mpg better than my n/a V8 Vantage (18.9mpg in 20,000 miles) so I’m quite happy.
Calinours said:
We really shouldn’t keep trying to claim the n/a V12 can get 30mpg. Driven fairly normally and with mixed driving it’s more like an average of about 17-18.
But it can so I'm not sure what your saying?Mixed driving is about 17mpg so totally agree. Cruising is an easy 30mpg though and 'hard spirited' driving will see about 7mpg , certainly sub 10.
My point about touring stands, sitting at 70 / 75 on the motorway / autoroute type environment and 30mpg will be easily achieved. To suggest we shouldn't keep claiming such doesn't make sense. I've done it many times with a full boot of luggage and my better half sitting there acting as an unofficial speed enforcement officer.
I did about 2000 miles last summer on a French trip and I think my holiday average was about 28 and that included seeing 250kmh on multiple occasions and every toll gate was a full on traffic light grand prix.
Longy00000 said:
Calinours said:
We really shouldn’t keep trying to claim the n/a V12 can get 30mpg. Driven fairly normally and with mixed driving it’s more like an average of about 17-18.
But it can so I'm not sure what your saying?Mixed driving is about 17mpg so totally agree. Cruising is an easy 30mpg though and 'hard spirited' driving will see about 7mpg , certainly sub 10.
If you do a big Euro tour where you’re spending a lot more of your driving on autoroutes/bahns/stradas then you could see some benefit from the 8s’s long leggedness, but that isn’t really everyday driving, and in true domestic everyday driving your mpg advantage from the 8s will, over time, end up pretty marginal.
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