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The latest new model from Aston Martin.
Convertibles always look so beautiful with the roof down.
My favourite part of every new model announcement (most car manufacturers) is included.
Mentioned, but usually nothing to see. Improved suspension. The handling is now ‘uncompromised’. At last !
'The suspension mounts have been made stiffer – by 140% at the front end. The revisions mean the DB12 Volante has 3.700% more torsional rigidity, than its DB11 predecessor.'
Hope that does not mean bumpy, on poorly maintained UK roads.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/aston-...
Note the Vantage comment.
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 16th August 08:20
I think it looks pretty good Jon, and if similar elements are carried over to the new smaller two seater then imho that has to be a good thing. However, some of the flowery word salad that has been used to describe DB12 Volante is truly awful. Who makes this stuff up?! It looks like another great car though, and promises more good things for the future. Well done AML. BRM.
This is no mere GT. This is a drive that kisses the sky, adding air to the already debonair. The World’s First Super Tourer.
DB12 Volante.
As jaw dropping as it is roof raising.
DB12 Volante cruises with a K-fold roof, opening and closing in a class-leading 14 seconds, at speeds of up to 35 mph. This is no mere GT. This is an open-air theatre of performance and the world’s first super tourer.
AstonMartin DB12 ICONDRIVEN
This is no mere GT. This is a drive that kisses the sky, adding air to the already debonair. The World’s First Super Tourer.
DB12 Volante.
As jaw dropping as it is roof raising.
DB12 Volante cruises with a K-fold roof, opening and closing in a class-leading 14 seconds, at speeds of up to 35 mph. This is no mere GT. This is an open-air theatre of performance and the world’s first super tourer.
AstonMartin DB12 ICONDRIVEN
Jon39 said:
'The suspension mounts have been made stiffer – by 140% at the front end. The revisions mean the DB12 Volante has 3.700% more torsional rigidity, than its DB11 predecessor.'
Hope that does not mean bumpy, on poorly maintained UK roads.
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 16th August 08:20
Phuketpaul said:
Jon39 said:
'The suspension mounts have been made stiffer – by 140% at the front end. The revisions mean the DB12 Volante has 3.700% more torsional rigidity, than its DB11 predecessor.'
Hope that does not mean bumpy, on poorly maintained UK roads.
Increased torsional rigidity is a good thing, it's about the stiffness of the body and the higher it is the better, particularly on poor British Roads, not to do with the suspension stiffness, which is completely different.
I agree, Paul.
They also mentioned a stiffness increase - by 140% at the front end
My point though, is manufacturers refer to suspension improvements almost every time they replace a model.
After improving suspension on 10 occasions, you would think perfection might have been achieved.
No one can argue, because it might only be a change of suspension bush.
Not really applicable to Aston Martin, but another favourite with everyday car launches, is increase shoulder and leg room with each successive model. No wonder the present VW Polo, is a bigger car than the original VW Golf.
Phuketpaul said:
Jon39 said:
'The suspension mounts have been made stiffer – by 140% at the front end. The revisions mean the DB12 Volante has 3.700% more torsional rigidity, than its DB11 predecessor.'
Hope that does not mean bumpy, on poorly maintained UK roads.
Edited by Jon39 on Wednesday 16th August 08:20
No one would be able to feel that difference, just marking bulls
tThe car doesn’t need all the guff written about it. Just look at, it's fantastic. A picture paints a thousand words. Although according to AM they are probably super luxury pictures
flow99 said:
Does look great and at 200k a good alternative to the 992 Turbo S Cab and the Roma Spider, although, easy to spend many £K on options, particularly with the two carbon packs, nice paint and ceramics.
Have test drive of the coupe next week, so be good to try on the road
Be interested to hear how that test drive goes. As for competitors, and looks are subjective, the DB12 is way ahead. 911 cabs always look heavy at the back with the roof down and as for the Roma… I cannot “unsee” this picture (Chrysler Crossfire, anyone?)Have test drive of the coupe next week, so be good to try on the road
911s have gotten so much more expensive. I configured a C4S Cab, and without even going crazy on options it came out to $170K+, absolutely crazy, not even a GTS or turbo. Same with the S class v8. Over 150K by the time you put a few options on it.
911s and the S class seemed like good options at around 100K or so but not 150- 170K +.
Hopefully the DB12 is a relative bargain comparatively. Likely cheaper than the Roma spider when specced
911s and the S class seemed like good options at around 100K or so but not 150- 170K +.
Hopefully the DB12 is a relative bargain comparatively. Likely cheaper than the Roma spider when specced
Neil1300r said:
If it 4% more torsional rigidty I'd buy one but not at a lowly 3.700%
No one would be able to feel that difference, just marking bullst
The car doesn’t need all the guff written about it. Just look at, it's fantastic. A picture paints a thousand words. Although according to AM they are probably super luxury pictures
As you say, guff and bulls...No one would be able to feel that difference, just marking bulls
tThe car doesn’t need all the guff written about it. Just look at, it's fantastic. A picture paints a thousand words. Although according to AM they are probably super luxury pictures
3.700%?????? Is that the same as 3.7% or even 3.7000000% - utter marketing b*ll*cks !!!
LordBretSinclair said:
Neil1300r said:
If it 4% more torsional rigidty I'd buy one but not at a lowly 3.700%
No one would be able to feel that difference, just marking bullst
The car doesn’t need all the guff written about it. Just look at, it's fantastic. A picture paints a thousand words. Although according to AM they are probably super luxury pictures
As you say, guff and bulls...No one would be able to feel that difference, just marking bulls
tThe car doesn’t need all the guff written about it. Just look at, it's fantastic. A picture paints a thousand words. Although according to AM they are probably super luxury pictures
3.700%?????? Is that the same as 3.7% or even 3.7000000% - utter marketing b*ll*cks !!!
I like the idea that if a number isn't big enough to impress, you put more zeros on it until it does. As in 'million percent', meaning 'yes'.
As for the back of the DB11/12 and the Porker/Ferrari Roma, who's copying who? I like it, but suddenly they look the same. I think that look first appeared on the Jag F-Type.
As for the back of the DB11/12 and the Porker/Ferrari Roma, who's copying who? I like it, but suddenly they look the same. I think that look first appeared on the Jag F-Type.
AdamV12V said:
The Volante really is lovely!
Could the DB12 be the first Aston in recent times that doesn’t feature the golden ratios at the launch annoucement?
Could the DB12 be the first Aston in recent times that doesn’t feature the golden ratios at the launch annoucement?
A beautiful design of course speaks for itself.
No nonsense marketing words are required.
Another point. A car that looks good in photos, also looks good 'in the flesh'.
Jon39 said:
Yes, it's the last generation Mercedes steering wheel in the DB12, which is a great thing, as the latest MB steering wheel you pictured, which I have in my Mercedes, is terrible as its totally haptic. Old gen has buttons, wheels and things you can push. Maff said:
totally haptic.
I had to look up 'haptic'. among other things, which suggest it vibrates if you wander across a line (enjoy parking at Tesco with that then) I found this splendid explanation: 'Haptic warning systems are defined as the on-board systems used to provide warnings to the driver using the haptic modality.'I'd just like a wheel please. Left to go left and right to go right.
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