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So, I currently have a 4.3 Vantage and looking to change to either the likes of a Vantage S (SP10 perhaps), or an N430 although not too far above that price point, I could go for a V12 Vantage. All would be manual as that's my preference.
I don't feel that I'm in a rush to move up the chain, but has anyone else considered the same route, and if so, what option did you go for?
Thanks.
I don't feel that I'm in a rush to move up the chain, but has anyone else considered the same route, and if so, what option did you go for?
Thanks.
maybe someday said:
So, I currently have a 4.3 Vantage and looking to change to either the likes of a Vantage S (SP10 perhaps), or an N430 although not too far above that price point, I could go for a V12 Vantage. All would be manual as that's my preference.
I don't feel that I'm in a rush to move up the chain, but has anyone else considered the same route, and if so, what option did you go for?
Thanks.
I don't feel that I'm in a rush to move up the chain, but has anyone else considered the same route, and if so, what option did you go for?
Thanks.
I have stayed with my 4.7 manual, which now has the usual mods (twin plate clutch; lighter flywheel; decat; PS4S tyres), but I understand that very many owners have taken your planned route.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
You have the advantage, of already knowing the subject.
A V12V must be the ultimate, but I am very happy with more than adequate V8 power.
Enjoy the search for your ideal Vantage.
maybe someday said:
Thanks for your input and I saw that thread after I submitted my post. Had looked through the forum a few days previous, but never saw that one, which has lots of great information.
I'm guessing the clutch made a huge difference in yours?
Thanks
I'm guessing the clutch made a huge difference in yours?
Thanks
Yes, the benefits being a far lighter clutch pedal and the bite point is more gentle.
Lighter flywheel must allow rotation to increase/decrease more quickly, but not sure whether it is very noticeable.
Hidden benefits - greater friction area should give a longer life (mine failed at about 15,000 miles).
Some owners might experience increased gear chatter. A variation from car to car.
If considerable gear chatter as standard, then have a twinplate clutch, but with the OEM flywheel.
Owned a manual 4.3 08 V8r for 5 years, I was similar to you, loved the AM experience and history. V12 costs concerned me so I went for a cobalt blue 4.7s that was 2014 with 48k miles on it, full history except clutch so changed to the BR twin clutch and remap, hell what a car, really ticks all the boxes for me. I couldn’t believe I’d go back to paddles after 3 manual sports cars but it suits the car really well. 
I had a 4.7 manual and was always a diehard manual man.
Made the mistake of test driving a V12 - just had to have one.
My replacement V12S has SSIII - a bit of getting used to but wouldn't go back to
a manual now. Up and down the box effortlessly with the paddles allows you to
concentrate more on the rest of the driving experience.


Made the mistake of test driving a V12 - just had to have one.
My replacement V12S has SSIII - a bit of getting used to but wouldn't go back to
a manual now. Up and down the box effortlessly with the paddles allows you to
concentrate more on the rest of the driving experience.
Dewi 2 said:
Yes, the benefits being a far lighter clutch pedal and the bite point is more gentle.
Lighter flywheel must allow rotation to increase/decrease more quickly, but not sure whether it is very noticeable.
Hidden benefits - greater friction area should give a longer life (mine failed at about 15,000 miles).
Some owners might experience increased gear chatter. A variation from car to car.
If considerable gear chatter as standard, then have a twinplate clutch, but with the OEM flywheel.
Stuart70 said:
Not going to be popular for this one. I had a Vantage V12S and changed earlier this year.
I went back to the dark side and into a 991 911 GTS.
Faster in the real world, better made, way lighter feeling and more responsive handling and steering.
You know it is the right choice.
Each to their own as I say, drove the C4S and C2S 992 and the C2S was really impressive, but for me lacked the sense of occasion of an Aston.I went back to the dark side and into a 991 911 GTS.
Faster in the real world, better made, way lighter feeling and more responsive handling and steering.
You know it is the right choice.

johns355 said:
Owned a manual 4.3 08 V8r for 5 years, I was similar to you, loved the AM experience and history. V12 costs concerned me so I went for a cobalt blue 4.7s that was 2014 with 48k miles on it, full history except clutch so changed to the BR twin clutch and remap, hell what a car, really ticks all the boxes for me. I couldn’t believe I’d go back to paddles after 3 manual sports cars but it suits the car really well. 
That’s a cracking colour :-)I drove an S a couple of weeks back and really liked it. I suppose you know when you see and buy the right car whether a V8 or a V12.
LordBretSinclair said:
I had a 4.7 manual and was always a diehard manual man.
Made the mistake of test driving a V12 - just had to have one.
My replacement V12S has SSIII - a bit of getting used to but wouldn't go back to
a manual now. Up and down the box effortlessly with the paddles allows you to
concentrate more on the rest of the driving experience.


Lovely cars and that V12S really suits that colour as well. I’ve read in a thread before of die hard manual fans switching to SSIII and not looking back, might be a route to take as the gap between manual and SSIII is not that wide any more.Made the mistake of test driving a V12 - just had to have one.
My replacement V12S has SSIII - a bit of getting used to but wouldn't go back to
a manual now. Up and down the box effortlessly with the paddles allows you to
concentrate more on the rest of the driving experience.
Phil74891 said:
Started with a 4.7S SSII in Dec 2013 Then swapped it for a V12S SSIII in Dec 2014, having tried the earlier V12 traditional Manual.
Still have the V12VS today. Get one of the V12s if you can, I think they’re both a massive step up from the V8.

A lot of V12S fans on this site who have kept their cars for a considerable amount of time. Will look to get a drive in one soon.Still have the V12VS today. Get one of the V12s if you can, I think they’re both a massive step up from the V8.
Lovely car ;-)
Stuart70 said:
Not going to be popular for this one. I had a Vantage V12S and changed earlier this year.
I went back to the dark side and into a 991 911 GTS.
Faster in the real world, better made, way lighter feeling and more responsive handling and steering.
You know it is the right choice.
Oh, Stuart. I had such high hopes for you… I went back to the dark side and into a 991 911 GTS.
Faster in the real world, better made, way lighter feeling and more responsive handling and steering.
You know it is the right choice.

maybe someday said:
So, I currently have a 4.3 Vantage and looking to change to either the likes of a Vantage S (SP10 perhaps), or an N430 although not too far above that price point, I could go for a V12 Vantage. All would be manual as that's my preference.
I don't feel that I'm in a rush to move up the chain, but has anyone else considered the same route, and if so, what option did you go for?
Thanks.
Well my AM journey started with a 2006 4.3 V8 Vantage in 2008, followed by a 2011 V12 Vantage in 2014 which I owned until August this year when I reached the decision that I wanted/needed only one car to replace the Vantage and a BMW X3 M40i. That car is a 2021 DBX 550 which I absolutely love as it ticks all my boxes, daily driver and when I want so fun a proper Sports Utility Vehicle. Aston Martin really did go to work on the DBX and as those who have driven one will know it drives like no other SUV. I don't feel that I'm in a rush to move up the chain, but has anyone else considered the same route, and if so, what option did you go for?
Thanks.
V12VMan said:
Well my AM journey started with a 2006 4.3 V8 Vantage in 2008, followed by a 2011 V12 Vantage in 2014 which I owned until August this year when I reached the decision that I wanted/needed only one car to replace the Vantage and a BMW X3 M40i. That car is a 2021 DBX 550 which I absolutely love as it ticks all my boxes, daily driver and when I want so fun a proper Sports Utility Vehicle. Aston Martin really did go to work on the DBX and as those who have driven one will know it drives like no other SUV.

Interesting, but not surprising. I know a couple of guys with DBX’s and they love them. That time may well come for me too.tom-4hcey said:
I started with a 2007 4.3 V8 vantage manual back in 2015 and at the start of this year changed to a 2013 V8 Vantage S sportshift II. Although I haven’t driven as much as I should have, what a car. I love it. I plan on a twin plate clutch and lighter flywheel at some point.
I like the thought of moving to a Vantage S, but a manual. How do you find SSII compared to the previous manual?BlackWidow13 said:
Stuart70 said:
Not going to be popular for this one. I had a Vantage V12S and changed earlier this year.
I went back to the dark side and into a 991 911 GTS.
Faster in the real world, better made, way lighter feeling and more responsive handling and steering.
You know it is the right choice.
Oh, Stuart. I had such high hopes for you… I went back to the dark side and into a 991 911 GTS.
Faster in the real world, better made, way lighter feeling and more responsive handling and steering.
You know it is the right choice.

Had a 4.7 V8, did the swap to a V12V manual, ended up in a V12VS SS3, no change since then for 9 years. Don't get me wrong, the V8s are fine cars but to me the V12s are in a different league, so much more of an event.
As for the dark side 911 post, I guess you either 'get' 911's or you don't. Competent? Oh yes. But oh so clinical, and such a non-event compared to an Aston. And re: the build quality comment, seriously? I've never had a car that oozes heft, solidity and substance more than my Astons did/do.
As for the dark side 911 post, I guess you either 'get' 911's or you don't. Competent? Oh yes. But oh so clinical, and such a non-event compared to an Aston. And re: the build quality comment, seriously? I've never had a car that oozes heft, solidity and substance more than my Astons did/do.
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