Annual Service for my DB9?
Annual Service for my DB9?
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zafod

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130 posts

97 months

My 2007 DB9 auto Coupe has done just 28,150 miles to date. It's had 12 services by AM Dealers and 1 by an AM Specialist. 6 of these services were done in the last 6,150 miles/7 years.

All of the recommendations noted on last year's service report have been rectified: Front discs and pads, rear pads, front dampers, new tyres all around, new boot, bonnet and door struts. I've also replaced the air filters and cabin/pollen filters which were recommended to be done on the next service.

All things considered, is there any meaningful benefit of carrying out an annual service this year, or maybe leave it until next year (approximately 7,000 miles since last service)?



Dewi 2

1,813 posts

87 months


zafod said:
My 2007 DB9 auto Coupe has done just 28,150 miles to date. It's had 12 services by AM Dealers and 1 by an AM Specialist. 6 of these services were done in the last 6,150 miles/7 years.

All of the recommendations noted on last year's service report have been rectified: Front discs and pads, rear pads, front dampers, new tyres all around, new boot, bonnet and door struts. I've also replaced the air filters and cabin/pollen filters which were recommended to be done on the next service.

All things considered, is there any meaningful benefit of carrying out an annual service this year, or maybe leave it until next year (approximately 7,000 miles since last service)?

6 services during 6,000 miles. Very well pampered.
I have only been doing about 1,000 miles annually and no drive is ever fewer than 25 miles. Therefore no short trips on a cold engine. On that basis I have bi-annual services.

Discs worn through after only 28,000 miles ! Nürburgring perhaps?
I wonder whether disc replacement is being oversold. An M-B main dealer once told me that the front pads and discs require replacement. I said pads only. They serviced that car for further 10 years and never ever mentioned discs again.

Blitzuk

110 posts

13 months

Yesterday (08:24)
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Dewi 2 said:

6 services during 6,000 miles. Very well pampered.
I have only been doing about 1,000 miles annually and no drive is ever fewer than 25 miles. Therefore no short trips on a cold engine. On that basis I have bi-annual services.

Discs worn through after only 28,000 miles ! Nürburgring perhaps?
I wonder whether disc replacement is being oversold. An M-B main dealer once told me that the front pads and discs require replacement. I said pads only. They serviced that car for further 10 years and never ever mentioned discs again.
It could be like my discs, which aren't worn but due to the age have started to corrode instead. So i'm going to enjoy changing those on my Rapide cry

Simpo Two

90,989 posts

287 months

Yesterday (10:42)
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zafod said:
My 2007 DB9 auto Coupe has done just 28,150 miles to date. It's had 12 services by AM Dealers and 1 by an AM Specialist. 6 of these services were done in the last 6,150 miles/7 years...

All things considered, is there any meaningful benefit of carrying out an annual service this year, or maybe leave it until next year (approximately 7,000 miles since last service)?
A similar story to my car, which did only 14K miles in 14 years with its first owner and was serviced at a main dealer every year. It seems mad to throw away oil after only 1,000 miles.

With me it actually gets used and is on 33K miles. Because it's 19 years old, way beyond any meaningful warranty (which is why most people waste money over-servicing), I get it done every 18 months.

Longy00000

1,908 posts

62 months

Yesterday (10:58)
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Now this could be bull but......
I recall watching a documentary on ferrari and why the factory along with the specialists would insist an annual service woukd be needed if a car has done low miles, note Low.
The message being it wasn't an issue if NO miles had been done (less than a 100 with no multiple start ups) but where several hundred or maybe a thousand or two had been completed then an oil.change was necessary.
The reasoning be that a number of cold starts and gentle warm ups create a number of gases within the engine and these gases slowly turn the oil acidic which then eats away at rubber or plastic seals and components.
In fairness they said it was extremely mportant for collections where the cars get moved about under their own steam and if ever purchasing a car from.a collection then to investigate how the car was kept and or serviced.
Now how much of this translates to more humble offerings that get used even just occasionally...I don't know but thought I would share.

zafod

Original Poster:

130 posts

97 months

Yesterday (11:05)
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Dewi 2 said:

6 services during 6,000 miles. Very well pampered.
I have only been doing about 1,000 miles annually and no drive is ever fewer than 25 miles. Therefore no short trips on a cold engine. On that basis I have bi-annual services.

Discs worn through after only 28,000 miles ! Nürburgring perhaps?
I wonder whether disc replacement is being oversold. An M-B main dealer once told me that the front pads and discs require replacement. I said pads only. They serviced that car for further 10 years and never ever mentioned discs again.
Thanks for the reply.
Discs definitely not worn through but were corroded on the inside of the fronts (rears are fine).

zafod

Original Poster:

130 posts

97 months

Yesterday (11:08)
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Blitzuk said:
It could be like my discs, which aren't worn but due to the age have started to corrode instead. So i'm going to enjoy changing those on my Rapide cry
Yes, mine (fronts only) were corroded like yours too. Good luck with your Rapide. FYI I got my discs and pads (Brembo) from Autodoc for about £350.

zafod

Original Poster:

130 posts

97 months

Yesterday (11:09)
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Simpo Two said:
A similar story to my car, which did only 14K miles in 14 years with its first owner and was serviced at a main dealer every year. It seems mad to throw away oil after only 1,000 miles.

With me it actually gets used and is on 33K miles. Because it's 19 years old, way beyond any meaningful warranty (which is why most people waste money over-servicing), I get it done every 18 months.
Thanks for the feedback!

zafod

Original Poster:

130 posts

97 months

Yesterday (11:10)
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Longy00000 said:
Now this could be bull but......
I recall watching a documentary on ferrari and why the factory along with the specialists would insist an annual service woukd be needed if a car has done low miles, note Low.
The message being it wasn't an issue if NO miles had been done (less than a 100 with no multiple start ups) but where several hundred or maybe a thousand or two had been completed then an oil.change was necessary.
The reasoning be that a number of cold starts and gentle warm ups create a number of gases within the engine and these gases slowly turn the oil acidic which then eats away at rubber or plastic seals and components.
In fairness they said it was extremely mportant for collections where the cars get moved about under their own steam and if ever purchasing a car from.a collection then to investigate how the car was kept and or serviced.
Now how much of this translates to more humble offerings that get used even just occasionally...I don't know but thought I would share.
Thanks for the feedback!

Emilio Largo

689 posts

133 months

Yesterday (14:00)
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Longy00000 said:
Now this could be bull but......
I recall watching a documentary on ferrari and why the factory along with the specialists would insist an annual service woukd be needed if a car has done low miles, note Low.
The message being it wasn't an issue if NO miles had been done (less than a 100 with no multiple start ups) but where several hundred or maybe a thousand or two had been completed then an oil.change was necessary.
The reasoning be that a number of cold starts and gentle warm ups create a number of gases within the engine and these gases slowly turn the oil acidic which then eats away at rubber or plastic seals and components.
In fairness they said it was extremely mportant for collections where the cars get moved about under their own steam and if ever purchasing a car from.a collection then to investigate how the car was kept and or serviced.
Now how much of this translates to more humble offerings that get used even just occasionally...I don't know but thought I would share.
Absolutely. 100%.

Appaling what is being written here. Well, they are just worthless old Astons. They were bought cheap and hence get treated cheaply.

Dewi 2

1,813 posts

87 months

Yesterday (14:13)
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Longy00000 said:
Now this could be bull but......
I recall watching a documentary on ferrari and why the factory along with the specialists would insist an annual service woukd be needed if a car has done low miles, note Low.
The message being it wasn't an issue if NO miles had been done (less than a 100 with no multiple start ups) but where several hundred or maybe a thousand or two had been completed then an oil.change was necessary.
The reasoning be that a number of cold starts and gentle warm ups create a number of gases within the engine and these gases slowly turn the oil acidic which then eats away at rubber or plastic seals and components.
In fairness they said it was extremely mportant for collections where the cars get moved about under their own steam and if ever purchasing a car from.a collection then to investigate how the car was kept and or serviced.
Now how much of this translates to more humble offerings that get used even just occasionally...I don't know but thought I would share.

I place importance on avoiding multiple engine starts.
During winter storage (14 years now) I don't do any engine starts.
During periods of use, I never start the engine and do a short drive.
Great believer in ensuring engine, transmission and moving parts are to working temperature before the car is put away, so minimum 25 miles.

The strategy seems to work. Vantage now 17 years old and perfect.

Simpo Two

90,989 posts

287 months

Yesterday (17:59)
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Emilio Largo said:
Appaling what is being written here. Well, they are just worthless old Astons. They were bought cheap and hence get treated cheaply.
For avoidance of doubt mine is serviced at Nicholas Mee. I hope you consider them expensive enough.

Blitzuk

110 posts

13 months

zafod said:
Yes, mine (fronts only) were corroded like yours too. Good luck with your Rapide. FYI I got my discs and pads (Brembo) from Autodoc for about £350.
I wish mine were that cheap. Unfortunately my front discs are about £1200 to purchase without fitting. grumpy

SergiyZ

48 posts

5 months

I have my own rule for servicing out-of-warranty cars with low annual mileage. I service non-turbocharged cars every two years, and turbocharged cars once a year. If you want to sleep soundly, you can do interim maintenance. This is simply an oil and filter change.

zafod

Original Poster:

130 posts

97 months

SergiyZ said:
I have my own rule for servicing out-of-warranty cars with low annual mileage. I service non-turbocharged cars every two years, and turbocharged cars once a year. If you want to sleep soundly, you can do interim maintenance. This is simply an oil and filter change.
Thanks for the feedback

996Type

1,047 posts

174 months

I would keep to the schedule and book it in for an oil change and to advise on anything else (not do the work unless you authorise).

I doubt you’d save much supplying your own parts to an Indy if the cost is an issue (even if they’d let you) but the cost of the service would be lower than the security blanket of skipping a service if you ever did sell and also agree with the point about oil degradation.

Especially in older cars than might not be as gas tight as they once were and allow other compounds to enter the oil.

If you can re coordinate the oil change to the MOT (or vice versa) that’s usually a very effective stem to stern look-over the car anyway for little cost relatively versus catching something later on a DB9. In general booking any car in for an independent MOT can act as quite a cheap PPI I’ve found in the past, just as an aside…

Dewi 2

1,813 posts

87 months


Blitzuk said:
zafod said:
Yes, mine (fronts only) were corroded like yours too. Good luck with your Rapide. FYI I got my discs and pads (Brembo) from Autodoc for about £350.
I wish mine were that cheap. Unfortunately my front discs are about £1200 to purchase without fitting. grumpy

With all of my cars, after begining a drive, I always lightly dab the brakes a few times and with the manual handbrake cars, sometimes give that a few light pulls. Can often hear mild crunching, revealing the presence of light corrosion.

There is another technique, which is usually mentioned in connection with brake squeal and can be used occasionally. Ttwo or three gentle applications of the brakes, followed by a higher speed heavy brake.

I have never ever encountered replacement of brake discs due to rust.

Dewi 2

1,813 posts

87 months


996Type said:
If you can re coordinate the oil change to the MOT (or vice versa) that s usually a very effective stem to stern look-over the car anyway for little cost relatively versus catching something later on a DB9. In general booking any car in for an independent MOT can act as quite a cheap PPI I ve found in the past, just as an aside

Much more fun to take your car to an Aston Martin main dealer for MoT and an expert inspection of the car.

Through gritted teeth, they cannot charge more than the standard MoT fee.
Coffee and cakes are usually part of the deal and while being pleased not to be overcharged, you can inspect the cars on show displaying £350,000 and £450,000 price labels.

After settling the bill with a cheeky AMEX cashback card, they sometimes say, "Your Aston is a minter".
Then to your favourite indie for service.

smile

zafod

Original Poster:

130 posts

97 months

996Type said:
I would keep to the schedule and book it in for an oil change and to advise on anything else (not do the work unless you authorise).

I doubt you d save much supplying your own parts to an Indy if the cost is an issue (even if they d let you) but the cost of the service would be lower than the security blanket of skipping a service if you ever did sell and also agree with the point about oil degradation.

Especially in older cars than might not be as gas tight as they once were and allow other compounds to enter the oil.

If you can re coordinate the oil change to the MOT (or vice versa) that s usually a very effective stem to stern look-over the car anyway for little cost relatively versus catching something later on a DB9. In general booking any car in for an independent MOT can act as quite a cheap PPI I ve found in the past, just as an aside
Thanks

zafod

Original Poster:

130 posts

97 months

Dewi 2 said:

Much more fun to take your car to an Aston Martin main dealer for MoT and an expert inspection of the car.

Through gritted teeth, they cannot charge more than the standard MoT fee.
Coffee and cakes are usually part of the deal and while being pleased not to be overcharged, you can inspect the cars on show displaying £350,000 and £450,000 price labels.

After settling the bill with a cheeky AMEX cashback card, they sometimes say, "Your Aston is a minter".
Then to your favourite indie for service.

smile
Food for thought smile