OEM Winter wheels and tyres for V12 Vantage (picture)
OEM Winter wheels and tyres for V12 Vantage (picture)
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clorenzen

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3,836 posts

265 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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Winter wheels and tyres look and work fine. Much better traction in the wet and much lighter steering as well. Expect ca. 5k all in (incl tyre pressure valves)
















Edited by clorenzen on Sunday 15th November 16:21


Edited by clorenzen on Sunday 15th November 16:39

Murph7355

42,007 posts

286 months

Sunday 15th November 2009
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I think I prefer them to standard. Drop the ride height by an inch et voila.

WantanewV12V

580 posts

232 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Murph7355 said:
I think I prefer them to standard. Drop the ride height by an inch et voila.
I prefer the standard wheels as stated elsewhere but these wheels are growing on me. It looks like the wheels have a matt finish - are they painted ? The tyres appear to have increased the ride height - is this an illusion ?If it is have you felt any other effect on steering ( you say that it feels lighter).

bogie

17,093 posts

302 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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if I was having a V12V I would have those as my all year around wheels, with the corsas on, and keep the others for the winter months smile

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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£5k?!

I paid £2.5k for winter wheeles and tyre for my M5 and I thought that was a pretty full price.

WantanewV12V

580 posts

232 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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bogie said:
if I was having a V12V I would have those as my all year around wheels, with the corsas on, and keep the others for the winter months smile
Don't think you can - tyres and wheels are dependant on each other hence £5k cost.

clorenzen

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3,836 posts

265 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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The wheels are painted grey gloss (which works nicely with Hammerhead). The tyrewall height and the width is different from the Zero Corsas hence you don't have the ability to swap tyres using the same rim. The ride height is slightly higher due to the tyre wall which also prevents the carbon front splitter being used as a rather expensive snow plough.

Functionality is very good in the wet conditions that we had during the week end. The P Zero Corsas would have aquaplaned going through big pools of water.

bogie

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302 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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so what are the wheel dimensions compared to stock wheels? are they really that much different that you cant fit whatever tyres you like on them, or is it marketing as usual wink

Zod

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288 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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Aren't they 18" wheels?

bogie

17,093 posts

302 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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well it would make sense if they are fitting higher profile tyres ....so 18's in winter and 19's in summer, just lower profiles ...makes sense smile

clorenzen

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265 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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The Pirelli Sottozero tyre - and wheel data are the following:

Front: 235 40 R19
Rear: 275 35 R19

Summertyres:

Front: Pirelli P Zero Corsa 255/35 ZR19
Rear: Pirelli P Zero Corsa 295/30 ZR19

You see that the rims are still 19" as they have to house the carbon discs.

Edited by clorenzen on Monday 16th November 20:04

bogie

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302 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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same as the original V8 sizes then - no reason why you cant run either tyre on either rim size wise as far as Im aware...the Corsas are an option on stock V8 rims...

which is good news of course as you have 2 sets of wheels you can do as you like with, and those winter wheels will fit a V8 smile

Murph7355

42,007 posts

286 months

Monday 16th November 2009
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bogie said:
if I was having a V12V I would have those as my all year around wheels, with the corsas on, and keep the others for the winter months smile
Me too.

In silver.

Or black on a white car smile

WantanewV12V

580 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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My dealer is still looking in to for me but this is far from a done deal. The feedback that I am getting at present is that new wheels and tyres are required if I want to pursue the winter option. The standard recommended route is the one taken by Clorenzen. However AM have put some interesting wording around their recommendation - the winter tyres are just that ie intended for real winter conditions of snow and ice. If used outside of winter conditions they will deteriorate at a rapid rate. Conditions like today at circa 12/13 degrees, damp roads will cause the tyre to wear very fast. Unless conditions are below 7 degrees (and I was given the impression that this would also coincide with adverse weather conditions) then the tyre is not suitable. The discussion led to conditions in a formula one race where in a heavy downpour it was essential to have wet weather tyres but as soon as a semi dry line appeared you need to change back otherwise grip on the wet tyres, due to rapid wear, would diminish immeadiately. You can't of course change wheels and tyres every 5 minutes in the real world. So - we are left with whether or not the Corsa will stand up to a normal UK winter or if I should be exploring other options. Clearly in the worst conditions (and we do see that occasionally) the Corsa presents some risk. Is that likely to be any worse than the winter I spent in a 997 GT3 (I think on the same tyres albeit to a Porsche spec). I did have a couple of interesting moments but generally all was fine. The dealer is also exploring another option which will probably still mean a change of wheel. This involves the bridgestone tyre normally found on the V8. This is the same size as the proposed Sottozero but offers a broader spectrum of usage (used in all conditions)and wear than the proposed winter tyre. However it was also pointed out to me that usage of either the Bridgestone or the Sottozero would compromise both the ride and driving ability of the car. I will await their final recommendation but I think that, like the GT3, I will test the car before making a decision.

clorenzen

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265 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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The choice of wheels/tyres depends ultimately on your specific circumstances. I was not looking for a compromise tyre (Pirelli P Zero's would probably be it) to cover all eventualities during the winter. In my case I have a Porsche tt cab for those days where it is dry and sunny during the winter and if it pours or it is cold I leave the Porsche in the garage and take the Aston. And for that blast down the Autobahn for the skitrip I need proper winter tyres anyway as it is required by law.

WantanewV12V

580 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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clorenzen said:
The choice of wheels/tyres depends ultimately on your specific circumstances. I was not looking for a compromise tyre (Pirelli P Zero's would probably be it) to cover all eventualities during the winter. In my case I have a Porsche tt cab for those days where it is dry and sunny during the winter and if it pours or it is cold I leave the Porsche in the garage and take the Aston. And for that blast down the Autobahn for the skitrip I need proper winter tyres anyway as it is required by law.
..and that makes perfect sense. I tend to use the V6 land rover for the worst conditions (and parking at the railway station) but want to use the V12V for most other driving. At the moment I think I am going to opt for the standard wheels only and wait to see what the longer term winter forecast is before taking any of the winter wheel options. If it looks like being a very wet winter I might change my mind sooner rather than later. The porsche TT and V12V is a great combination by the way and covers most eventualities (apart from railway station parking !)

WantanewV12V

580 posts

232 months

Tuesday 17th November 2009
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Just had confirmation from dealer (high level summary) - AM don't recommend use of winter wheels and tyres in the UK.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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WantanewV12V said:
Just had confirmation from dealer (high level summary) - AM don't recommend use of winter wheels and tyres in the UK.
Forgot this thread when I bought my car. I paid less than £3k for my OEM winter wheels and tyres. As for not recommending them for the UK, I'd like to see the man who said that drive one on Corsas on Dales B roads this winter.

TuonoPants

315 posts

174 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Zod

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288 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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TuonoPants said:
Yes, I know. I've seen worse, much worse.