Mazda 3 MPS
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BIG DUNC

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1,919 posts

245 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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I am thinking of getting a Mazda 3 MPS.

The particular car in question is an early (2006 I think) one, and does not have the airo pack or lowered suspension.

I know about the £400 road tax and the VVT actuator issue.

Is there anything else to be aware of?

Are the engines particuarly delicate?

Any other issues or common MOT failure points?

Any useful comments from current or past owners would be appreciated.


Bone Rat

376 posts

185 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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Hi,

Have a 2007 Aero and just passed 69K in it since new. Engine has been very reliable with no glitches. Has settled down to about 33 mpg on motorway.

Only negative points I've found are the rather dead, semi detached feeling to the steering and the high tyre wear. I get about 12/12 or 10K from the fronts & they are a bit of an odd expensive size 215/45/18.

I've needed new shocks all round at 65K & am looking at new disks all round at 70K but nothing major or unexpected just wear & tear.

Overall good car with excellent performance which is very understated in appearance. Upsets lots of Audis & BMW, totally baffles the Saxo set. Costs lot less than VW etc

Andy

BIG DUNC

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1,919 posts

245 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Thank you, that is the kind of reply I was hoping for.

OldBob

290 posts

181 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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I had a 6MPS, think it's the same engine. Was faultless for the 18months or so i had it, pulled hard, smooth, effortless. As others post, will upset more overt "fast" cars with the performance.

BIG DUNC

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1,919 posts

245 months

Thursday 3rd May 2012
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This is all making me very tempted

hygt2

419 posts

201 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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BIG DUNC said:
This is all making me very tempted
If you emphasise on cornering than straight line speed, the 6MPS is faster mainly because it is better in corners and in wet.

GAjon

3,986 posts

235 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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hygt2 said:
If you emphasise on cornering than straight line speed, the 6MPS is faster mainly because it is better in corners and in wet.
My times around Cadwell were quicker in the 3 over the 6.

Bone Rat

376 posts

185 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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Hi,

To return to this topic, from the reviews I've read of the non Aero MPS you may be better waiting for an Aero pack to come around. Mine is an Aero & the combination of the light steering & the suspension means it is still a bit vague in corners. This is one with lowered Eibach suspension so I'd personally be wary of one with the stock suspension fitted to the non Aero. I think Mazda fitted the Eibach after feedback about handling.

Very fast in straight line, never had problems in corners in the dry, can be very scrabbly in the wet if booted as not 4WD. It's a car in which I really wouldn't economise on tyres.

If you get one make sure the lights are correctly set up, lots of hype about it having discharge headlights, for some reason they have a short range due to their position & suspension. Personally find wifes TT with ordinary bulbs 100% better. Good audio system for those of us who don't replace them with after market units & bass bins etc.

The early ones were subject to a recall for an engine mounting - the dealer had to be reminded about this, make sure it was done as it can cause big problems.

Sorry if these are mundane points, thought they'd be more use than 'fast car blud'

Andy

BIG DUNC

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1,919 posts

245 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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Cheers Andy.

This particular one is on standard springs. I thought I would see how I got on with them, but after six months or so, change them. I do a big milage, on "not so smooth" roads, so I dont want anything too hard.

rb5er

11,657 posts

194 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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The original standard car was slated when it was released, apparently the aero package makes a massive difference. I have only driven an aero so don't know how much different they are but the ride is not bonecrunching as per a type-r.

Hold out for an aero, it will be easier to sell on afterwards too.

BIG DUNC

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1,919 posts

245 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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One of the things I like about it that other than the exhaust tail pipe and wheels, it looks like a shopping car. The aero has spoiled (not huge admittedly) but I would rather not have them. Other than the springs & spoilers, are there any other improvements to the aero? What I am saying is, if I were to fit aero springs, would I then effectively has an aero without the spoilers (which I am not so keen on), or are there other differences as well.

hygt2

419 posts

201 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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GAjon said:
My times around Cadwell were quicker in the 3 over the 6.
Standard 3MPS Mark 1?

GAjon

3,986 posts

235 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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hygt2 said:
Standard 3MPS Mark 1?
No standard 6MPS and standard MK2 3MPS, but my post wasn't intended as a one car is quicker than the other (there is little in it and that would vary from one to another dependant on conditions), just to point out the 3 isn't in anyway lacking in handling performance because it is FWD.

The truth is, and this is assuming the OP isn't considering an MPS for how many cubic litres of luggage space it has, the MPS range of cars are pretty good all rounders and won't break the bank.

hygt2

419 posts

201 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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GAjon said:
hygt2 said:
Standard 3MPS Mark 1?
No standard 6MPS and standard MK2 3MPS, but my post wasn't intended as a one car is quicker than the other (there is little in it and that would vary from one to another dependant on conditions), just to point out the 3 isn't in anyway lacking in handling performance because it is FWD.

The truth is, and this is assuming the OP isn't considering an MPS for how many cubic litres of luggage space it has, the MPS range of cars are pretty good all rounders and won't break the bank.
Sounds sensible - it would not make sense for the MK2 3MPS not to be better than the MK1.

The Mazda test engineers confirmed when I was at Ford many year ago that the 6MPS was very slightly faster than the MK1 3MPS on handling circuit, dry or wet (though less than 1% different in dry from the telemetry and I'm not sure if it is the same test driver so it could be down to driver variation). Also, that was development platform so I'm not sure how different the production models are compared to the development models.

Having driven both, I can categorically say the MK1 3MPS is faster than the 6MPS. Thus with less weight, lower transmission loss, better fuel economy, better interior packaging, more flexible interior with folding rear seats and lower overall costs, the 3MPS is a better all rounder.

However, I just didn't like the way the MK1 3MPS drives so I admit bias. Being single and having 4 cars in London only allow me to drive each about 1,000 miles or so a year so admittedly my "needs" are mostly different.

Sufyaan

100 posts

166 months

Monday 2nd July 2012
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Hi,

Apologies for hijacking the thread.... thought I'd post in here rather than create another 3 MPS thread.

From which year onwards were the facelift/aero available? Apart from the suspension, aero kit and steering improvements... any other upgrades? Is the power the same?

Thanks! smile

bigfish786

77 posts

169 months

Saturday 7th July 2012
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the 1st few uk cars were non aero i believe, from 07 onwards there is a mix of both, but most are aero's. some of the later cars were classed as earo's but didn't have the big spoiler on the rear but had the aero mirrors and eibach springs.
i've had an 08 aero now for 2 years, and on the handling side i can tell you that a tyre change away from bridgestones to goodyears will vastly improve ride quality and handling.

there are no major faults to report, the vvt actuator is a known fault but not all that common, as is smoke from turbo on extended idle.

my advice, get an aero, lowest mileage you can and enjoy.

davey68

1,199 posts

259 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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How much of an improvement is the mk2 3MPS over the mk1. I've seen early (2009) mk2 models for close to £10k that seems a bargain. I know they are very quick especially once rolling but how it the handling/ride quality?

Edited by davey68 on Monday 9th July 17:29