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Hi,
I wonder if someone would be able to help...
We bought a Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0l TD from new around 3 years ago. It has the VAG 140 engine. After a few months of purchasing the car, we noticed that occasionally it would not idle smoothly and felt like it was going to stall. It then started doing the same at speed, as if you were in too high a gear. This can vary in severity from a small 'cough' to a severe jerking. When this problem occurs, the engine also becomes very noisy and we also get this noise (see video) which sounds like the waste-gate, (but only ever happens when it has just done the stalling/jerking feeling). We noticed the engine bay also seems to be a lot hotter than normal when it does it as well, although the temperature gauge reads as normal.
We eventually had an error code popup and the DPF sensor was replaced a couple of years ago. This seemed fine for a while then the symptoms returned. We've had the car into 2 Mitsubishi garages on countless occasions and liaised with customer services to try and get this resolved, but the problem is so intermittent we cannot get it to do it under their supervision, despite them having the car for a full month plus many other occasions. However on one recent occasion, the fault happened just as we left the garage and so we quickly returned. They acknowledged the noise wasn't right and a mechanic test drove the car, however it was only doing the stalling/jerking feeling very slightly by this point.
They initially thought it was just a DPF regen issue, but it has started doing it around every 150 miles now, despite soot levels being very low.
One garage replaced the EGR cooler and did several ECU resets, and another found there was a lot of 'rubbish' in the fuel tank, so that was cleaned out, a new fuel pump put in.The turbo has also been stripped and checked, as a fault code for this has previously been found twice. Octiburn was also added to flush the rest of the system. It doesn't matter what fuel we use it always does it, we are running v-power at the moment and the same symptoms occur. Both myself and my partner get the same symptoms from the car, so it can't be to do with the way the car is being driven.
So, does any one have any suggestions or had similar symptoms? Or, any suggestions how to deal with the garage? After nearly 3 years of investigating, they state that unless it does it to them, they cannot fix it which I can understand, but getting it to do it when they have have the car seems to be illusive!
All suggestions greatly appreciated as I think I'm going crazy after 3 years to trying to suss this
I wonder if someone would be able to help...
We bought a Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0l TD from new around 3 years ago. It has the VAG 140 engine. After a few months of purchasing the car, we noticed that occasionally it would not idle smoothly and felt like it was going to stall. It then started doing the same at speed, as if you were in too high a gear. This can vary in severity from a small 'cough' to a severe jerking. When this problem occurs, the engine also becomes very noisy and we also get this noise (see video) which sounds like the waste-gate, (but only ever happens when it has just done the stalling/jerking feeling). We noticed the engine bay also seems to be a lot hotter than normal when it does it as well, although the temperature gauge reads as normal.
We eventually had an error code popup and the DPF sensor was replaced a couple of years ago. This seemed fine for a while then the symptoms returned. We've had the car into 2 Mitsubishi garages on countless occasions and liaised with customer services to try and get this resolved, but the problem is so intermittent we cannot get it to do it under their supervision, despite them having the car for a full month plus many other occasions. However on one recent occasion, the fault happened just as we left the garage and so we quickly returned. They acknowledged the noise wasn't right and a mechanic test drove the car, however it was only doing the stalling/jerking feeling very slightly by this point.
They initially thought it was just a DPF regen issue, but it has started doing it around every 150 miles now, despite soot levels being very low.
One garage replaced the EGR cooler and did several ECU resets, and another found there was a lot of 'rubbish' in the fuel tank, so that was cleaned out, a new fuel pump put in.The turbo has also been stripped and checked, as a fault code for this has previously been found twice. Octiburn was also added to flush the rest of the system. It doesn't matter what fuel we use it always does it, we are running v-power at the moment and the same symptoms occur. Both myself and my partner get the same symptoms from the car, so it can't be to do with the way the car is being driven.
So, does any one have any suggestions or had similar symptoms? Or, any suggestions how to deal with the garage? After nearly 3 years of investigating, they state that unless it does it to them, they cannot fix it which I can understand, but getting it to do it when they have have the car seems to be illusive!
All suggestions greatly appreciated as I think I'm going crazy after 3 years to trying to suss this
300bhp/ton said:
Sorry for your wowes, but if you've failed to resolve the issue in 3 years I'd be tempted to draw a line under it and move on. I suspect there'll be a cost in doing so, but do you really want to continue owning a troublesome car, even more so once out of warranty?
Thanks for your reply We've thought about just moving on alot but a) we love the car (the rest of the time!) and b) I kind of want to know what the problem is...
On the plus side, Mitsubishi have offered to pay for an extra year's warranty due to the problem and because there is some debate over whether an item reported under warranty is covered out of warranty if is not fixed.
do you do alot of short trips around town? or do you do lots of motorway miles?
the DPF's can clog up if you do short journeys. diesels are great for high miles stuff. but a frugal petrol is much better suited to around town duty's if that's the case 300bhp might be right chop it in.
VR
clogged DPF's have been know to kill turbo's
VR
the DPF's can clog up if you do short journeys. diesels are great for high miles stuff. but a frugal petrol is much better suited to around town duty's if that's the case 300bhp might be right chop it in.
VR
clogged DPF's have been know to kill turbo's
VR
VR6 Turbo said:
do you do alot of short trips around town? or do you do lots of motorway miles?
the DPF's can clog up if you do short journeys. diesels are great for high miles stuff. but a frugal petrol is much better suited to around town duty's if that's the case 300bhp might be right chop it in.
VR
It varies. The shortest we do to even get to town would be 5 miles, but generally we do 15k/year usually on trips around 50-60 miles with probably 2-3 trips a month over 100+ on motorways which should give it a clear out.the DPF's can clog up if you do short journeys. diesels are great for high miles stuff. but a frugal petrol is much better suited to around town duty's if that's the case 300bhp might be right chop it in.
VR
We do give it the beans as well when possible for that reason.
lancer2mitsi said:
VR6 Turbo said:
do you do alot of short trips around town? or do you do lots of motorway miles?
the DPF's can clog up if you do short journeys. diesels are great for high miles stuff. but a frugal petrol is much better suited to around town duty's if that's the case 300bhp might be right chop it in.
VR
It varies. The shortest we do to even get to town would be 5 miles, but generally we do 15k/year usually on trips around 50-60 miles with probably 2-3 trips a month over 100+ on motorways which should give it a clear out.the DPF's can clog up if you do short journeys. diesels are great for high miles stuff. but a frugal petrol is much better suited to around town duty's if that's the case 300bhp might be right chop it in.
VR
We do give it the beans as well when possible for that reason.
VR
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