HID conversions - anyone done it ?
HID conversions - anyone done it ?
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Turn7

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25,238 posts

242 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Who did you use, whats the quality of the kit like and was it worth doing ?

Can I get some that arnt chavvy blue ?

What IS the actual law regarding these now ?

Thinking about dip beam set for my Celica.

lookatmypussy

2,339 posts

186 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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Chavvy. Wrong. Sad.

Turn7

Original Poster:

25,238 posts

242 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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lookatmypussy said:
Chavvy. Wrong. Sad.
Thanks for your usefull input.

lookatmypussy

2,339 posts

186 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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4300K is the correct colour - same as factory spec mercs/bmw's etc... If fitted to a projector lens headlight they should be fine. Not so good in a normal headlight though - you can now get anti dazzle HID bulbs to reduce the glare.

lookatmypussy

2,339 posts

186 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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If you're in herts and need a hand fitting a set, pm me. I've fitted over 20 sets andi believe your Toyota has projector headlights? Are they a H7 bulb??

probedb

824 posts

240 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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Generally it'll be pants, if you just switch to HIDs as the units/reflectors are not made for them so the light goes everywhere.

Do it properly and fit some projectors if you want HIDs.

2BarTurbo

121 posts

161 months

Monday 31st December 2012
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Im a believer that hids are supposed to be in a proper projector lense within the head light. This does give a definitive cut of for the light beam.

On my mr2 I just kept the reflector lenses and invested in osram night breaker's, because seeing people who have fitted hids to reflectors and especially think its cool to blind others with a bad light setup (ie blue) is a pet hate of mine. I drive at night for a living so see a lot of this.

However, on my works car, mk3 mondeo I invested in some projector headlight units and fitted 35w hids with a standard colour of 4300k which is perfectly white enough for visibility in dark rainy weather.
The hids made a big difference with clarity of the road aswell as the distance that the light is projected over.
To be honest i use full beam alot less now thanks to the hids and projector lenses.

Oh and if you do fit anything like this remember to get your friendly garage to get the beam angle and hight set properly so your not lighting up the moon.

One last thing though is that I read somewhere the law in 2013 will require hid lights on a car to be self levelling and to have washing units built in to keep them clean so not to distort the beams of light?


Edited by 2BarTurbo on Monday 31st December 03:01

Turn7

Original Poster:

25,238 posts

242 months

Monday 31st December 2012
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The car does have a projector beam for dip, but I am concerned about the light scatter and also legality.

I could also be tempted to just put some better bulbs in if it makes more sense ?

2BarTurbo

121 posts

161 months

Monday 31st December 2012
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You could upgrade the power of the standard bulbs from 35w or what ever yours are rated at too some 100w bulbs. But id check the wiring for the bulb is up for the job. The projectors should give a good pattern for what ever bulb you put in shouldn't they?

Yes the legality will become a problem when the mot law changes for the hid fitment.

bubz00

27 posts

155 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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I've done quite ilterally hundreds of aftermarket HID installs and my input is this.

If you don't have projectors in the car, the HID kit is just annoying. The reflection is absurd, it'll only ps off oncoming drivers and drivers ahead of you alike. The light output is pretty much lost and it just looks silly and boy racer.

If you've got projectors in the car, the HID kits can be great if you purchase from a reputable company and purchase for light output and not to have "purple lights". I've had too many customers come in, say "I WANT REALLY COOLZ LOOKING BLUE LIGHTS" and then come back within a week complaining they can't see anything. A nice 6K - 8K HID light looks and performs great inside a projector housing. Many manufacturers are offering lifetime warranties on their bulbs and ballasts as well now.

My 2 cents!


Glosphil

4,745 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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2BarTurbo said:
You could upgrade the power of the standard bulbs from 35w or what ever yours are rated at too some 100w bulbs. But id check the wiring for the bulb is up for the job. The projectors should give a good pattern for what ever bulb you put in shouldn't they?

Yes the legality will become a problem when the mot law changes for the hid fitment.
100W bulbs are illegal for road use.

Number86

26 posts

155 months

Tuesday 19th February 2013
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Only get them if you have projection lenses, and no higher a temperature than 5000k.

Those are the rules*



My rules*

DAVEVO9

3,469 posts

288 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Number86 said:
Only get them if you have projection lenses, and no higher a temperature than 5000k.

Those are the rules*



My rules*
This.

japgt

349 posts

185 months

Wednesday 20th February 2013
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Never had them, never intend having them and anyone who does have them should be shot!!! Complete fkin pain in the arse from any way you look at them and the reason they arnt legal is down to their inherant dangerousness!!!

Number86

26 posts

155 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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japgt said:
Never had them, never intend having them and anyone who does have them should be shot!!! Complete fkin pain in the arse from any way you look at them and the reason they arnt legal is down to their inherant dangerousness!!!
Spot the idiot.

Of course they're legal.

liner33

10,861 posts

223 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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They arent legal just because they pass the mot doesnt mean they are legal.


japgt

349 posts

185 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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liner33 said:
They arent legal just because they pass the mot doesnt mean they are legal.

Thankyou, even if they were legal they shouldnt be!!!

liner33

10,861 posts

223 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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Properly fitted in the correct type of light they are totally fine .

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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liner33 said:
They arent legal just because they pass the mot doesnt mean they are legal.

It also doesn't mean they are illegal either by that logic. wink

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd February 2013
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japgt said:
liner33 said:
They arent legal just because they pass the mot doesnt mean they are legal.

Thankyou, even if they were legal they shouldnt be!!!
Why?