EVO as tow car?
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MTv Dave

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278 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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Looking at getting a tow car for racing next season and would like something that would be fun when we do extended hoons around Scotland. We need the space for luggage when hooning and for tools when racing. The FTO would be ok but getting a towball isn't worth it and, frankly, I want some 4WD action!

I know the EVO petrol tanks are pretty small, but are there any other things to put me off? And can you get extra tanks? I'd guess the WRC bods would have some soultion to this, but they don't need the luggage room!

Also, what mk would people suggest? I like the 4s but looking in the other thread it seems the 5s are a more rugged, which is something I would really need.

trickywoo

13,498 posts

252 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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If you are not too worried about running costs an Evo 5 onwards would fit the bill.

Extra fuel capacity would be possible but you would loose space and I'd imagine not many insurers would be keen to offer cover even at silly prices.

You must be a hardcore PH if you go racing AND need some serious kit to hoon around in when not on track.eek

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

263 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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A Scooby WRX wagon might suit your needs better as a tow car

MTv Dave

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Wednesday 11th April 2007
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I'll look into the scooby WRX wagons too.

What sort of range can you get with a 5 or 6? I doubt the budget would really extend beyond that as running costs will be high with all the extra stress on the car.

cptsideways

13,811 posts

274 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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Towing with an EVO you'll be lucky to get 150 miles on a tank, which means finding a petrol station after only a 100 miles or so yikes

Go for a legacy GT GT-B estate, a bit more grunt for towing just as fun too & a relatively decent tank size.

KB_S1

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251 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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I know it isn't helpful advice but Russ Swift was using an Evo IX to tow his MINI Cooper S the last time I saw him.

cptsideways

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274 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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KB_S1 said:
I know it isn't helpful advice but Russ Swift was using an Evo IX to tow his MINI Cooper S the last time I saw him.



Yeah but he's sponsored by Shell

Mtv Dave

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Friday 13th April 2007
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Looks like an Evo is out then.
We're going to look at an untouched scooby wagon turbo thingy soon from the PH classifieds, any pointers on what to look out for? - ETA Just had a look int the EVO/Scooby advice thread, so we'll check the clutch is ok... any more for any more?

Thanks for the serious PH comment Tricky But I guess the Wagon isn't quite so serious a piece of kit Still there's the other couple of toys
Sorry, can't resist showing off sometimes


Edited by Mtv Dave on Friday 13th April 08:12

GravelBen

16,313 posts

252 months

Friday 13th April 2007
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As well as an Impreza wagon, also worth considering a Forester turbo or Legacy wagon (either a 2.0 turbo or 3.0 n/a version would do fine) as a bit bigger, more solid tow wagon (though the Forester is based on impreza chassis so not much bigger).


ETA: Or as an outside option, how about an Audi RS2 avant? more grunt than the other cars mentioned here, much nicer interior, good solid tow car. Maybe not as chuckable and entertaining to drive as Evo/Impreza but probably the one you'd prefer to be sitting in for hours on end towing a trailer up a boring motorway on the way to a race meeting. Seem to be similar price based on a quick look at PH classifieds.

Edited by GravelBen on Friday 13th April 09:08

Mtv Dave

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Friday 13th April 2007
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Thrown a curve ball there mate, and in Jap Chat too!!!

I did have a quick look at the Audi selection earlier, but expect the RS2 to be a tiny car (I don't know my German cars at all), so didn't look - only at the 4 and 6 variants which seemed a tad pricey... I shal go and look now...

GravelBen

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252 months

Saturday 14th April 2007
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Mtv Dave said:
...but expect the RS2 to be a tiny car (I don't know my German cars at all)...


The RS2 is the original Audi mentalist-wagon, the RS4 was its successor, then the RS6 was made as the big daddy next size up Uber-Wagon.

RS2 is 2.2 5-cyl turbo, 315bhp standard with potential for much more given where that motor comes from. big laggy though apparently, but that shouldn't be too hard to address.



Edited by GravelBen on Saturday 14th April 05:14

atomicrex

862 posts

249 months

Saturday 14th April 2007
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You cant use an Evo as a tow car anymore....after the record attempt for towing a caravan at high speed was made, Mitsubishi converted the arse end to prevent towbars being fitted.

wadeski

8,804 posts

235 months

Saturday 14th April 2007
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you want a bit of weight when towing, and low down torque too. perhaps a Forester STi or Saab 95 Aero? both chip to 300bhp...

mtv dave

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Monday 16th April 2007
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Bought an untouched UK Subaru Wagon Turbo from the PH classifieds.

The towing capacity is more than enough, very nice seats, nice ride, plenty of go and it didn't keep shouting "more right foot now Now NOW!" to me (as pretty much every other car I have ever owned has) so I can see driving lots of miles with the trailer on being ok.

It stuck to the road well when pushed and the overtaking power wasn't too bad either. Looking forward to picking it up next weekend and seeing what it can do on the cross country trip home.

driving

GravelBen

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252 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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thumbup Have fun

Xenocide

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230 months

Monday 16th April 2007
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Pics?

mtv dave

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Monday 16th April 2007
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Well, it's this one...
www.pistonheads.com/sales/largepic.asp?i=151023&noPics=5¤t=1

But more to follow when I have it.

I think it may give the liz a run for its money - I've just been looking into these things stats yikes I expected the 5 doors to be fatter and slower... they are of course, but not by the margin I had expected. We'll have to compare the cornering capacity on a track day

ETA
Oh, and the insurance is good too - not quite so cheap as the very modified FTO (but that has a tracker, so really costs 100 quid a year more than I pay to the broker) but only £655 fully comp, 5 years NCD for the two of us with all the bells, whistles and my points! Very reasonable - I suppose getting older does have it's good points.

Edited by mtv dave on Monday 16th April 11:54

rsv gone!

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Monday 16th April 2007
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mtv dave said:
I think it may give the liz a run for its money - I've just been looking into these things stats yikes I expected the 5 doors to be fatter and slower... they are of course, but not by the margin I had expected.

Some tests of the early five doors were 0-60 in low fives - pretty rapid! A friend of mine has a wagon and his '97 standard car with about 90K on the clock dyno'd at 230 horses.

mtv dave

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Wednesday 18th April 2007
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Getting really excited now - still got 3 more sleeps tile christmas, sorry, I mean picking up the car bounce

slamm

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Friday 20th April 2007
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bouncedriving

1 more sleep to go!