Forester Turbo S - Performance Upgrades
Forester Turbo S - Performance Upgrades
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pvanstone

Original Poster:

11 posts

220 months

Monday 8th October 2007
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Gonna Try a Forester S Turbo (probably manual) for a while and am considering performance upgrades.

Any experience of these / recs.

Cheers

VM

stevieb

5,253 posts

289 months

Tuesday 9th October 2007
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Depends what you are after...

With a turbo change and a few other supporting upgrade with a remap you can see upto 300Bhp.

Ther are also a wide variety of suspension upgrade avaliable.

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

248 months

Tuesday 9th October 2007
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The S Turbo has the 2.0L WRX Engine so similar if not same spec. I think it's the same TD04 turbo therefore Snorkus Mod, Performance Green Flat Panel Air Filter, Quick engine map and if you can stretch to it single cat SS Exhaust and decat SS uppipe. That should see 280bhp. If you upgrade the fuel pump and plumb in an adjustable fuel pressure regulator you should see 300bhp with a more agressive map. Leave the Turbo alone bearing in mind standard engine internals ( remember it's not an STi) as it's good for 300-320bhp at the limit, maybe a bit more.

Leave the suspension alone for a more involving drive hehe

stevieb

5,253 posts

289 months

Tuesday 9th October 2007
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ScoobieWRX said:
The S Turbo has the 2.0L WRX Engine so similar if not same spec. I think it's the same TD04 turbo therefore Snorkus Mod, Performance Green Flat Panel Air Filter, Quick engine map and if you can stretch to it single cat SS Exhaust and decat SS uppipe. That should see 280bhp. If you upgrade the fuel pump and plumb in an adjustable fuel pressure regulator you should see 300bhp with a more agressive map. Leave the Turbo alone bearing in mind standard engine internals ( remember it's not an STi) as it's good for 300-320bhp at the limit, maybe a bit more.

Leave the suspension alone for a more involving drive hehe
There is nothing wrong with changng the Turbo to a VF34 or VF35, as long as you have a good mapper will prove to be reliable.


ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

248 months

Tuesday 9th October 2007
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It's only a WRX engine and a VF34/35 turbo will be running a lot more boost than you really want, not to mention the lag compared to the TD04. Foresters aren't exactly light and surely what you're looking for from a heavy car like that is plenty of mid range performance and as little lag as possible for good motorway or overtaking ability. You could turn the boost down a bit on the VF34/35 but what's the point of strangling a good turbo.

Stick with the TD04 it's good enough for a Forester, and good enough to put out pretty decent reliable performance. Also the injectors are 380cc blue and theoretically they are good for about 300bhp max although i'm sure you can squeeze a bit more out of them with a high pressure fuel pump running at 3.5 - 4.0bar. TD04's produce good power up to 5800rpm...thereafter it tails right off. The VF34/35 is just starting to come into it's own at about 4500rpm right up to the redline so it's all about top end power, which IMHO isn't what you're looking for from a Forrester S turbo. It's never going to be an STi.

To be honest i wouldn't want to go much beyond 300/320 bhp in my WRX with std internals because i use it daily and want the engine to last. I get all my power at low to mid range with the mapping i've done, and with all 3 cats in place, and that's good enough to show a std STi a clean pair of heals.

I don't think upgrading the Turbo is the way to go on that, not to mention it won't be cheap either.

stevieb

5,253 posts

289 months

Tuesday 9th October 2007
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The Forester has not got a TD04 though it has s smaller turbo a TD035,

I do not agree with your commetn ont he VF34/35 thoughyou only MAP in as much boost as you require or can safely go to.

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

248 months

Tuesday 9th October 2007
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2005 on 2.0L Forrester's have the TD04, same as the 2.5's, pre-2005 it is the TD035, but in it's own right it's a good little turbo and will still push 12-14psi and give 250 - 260 bhp with all he other mods. The TD04 is good for 18-20psi standard and you should see 300 - 320bhp. There's still a little matter of injector duty probably running near 100% in which case you need to change injectors as well.

It's a Forrester with softer suspension and brakes than even a WRX!! How much power do you really want out of that and do you really want to be up on two wheels everytime you decide to push it round a tight fast bend. Also, how much money do you really want to spend on mods. If you want to keep the cost reasonable play with what you have.

It's a good crusing car and surely you want swift motorway progress and the odd mild blatt down some B roads now and again rather than out and out B road madness all the time, making your passengers sick as dogs over the back seat.

If you want the practicality of the Forrester with the excellent handling and pace of the WRX get a Sportwagon, that's what i did wink

markCSC

2,987 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th October 2007
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Pah! wink

Buy a Forester and mod the hell out of it!

Mine is a JDM S/tb with allegedly 260bhp as standard (about 220bhp on UK fuel)
It's been lowered and has KYB adjustable shocks. Brakes are EBC discs and pads.

Performance air filter, straight though centre section and backbox (gives about 10-15bhp extra).

It is not a wobbly old barge and it's chuffin quick. The reason I bought it rather than an Impreza is the stealth factor. Nobody knows what the hell it is.

Do it, you know you want to. smile

My car



Oh and for some very biased opions try http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/forumdispl...

Edited by markCSC on Tuesday 9th October 18:08

Fusion-Ed

109 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th October 2007
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What do you run it on? There is no way you would drop 40bhp unless its running on some horrific fuel!

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

248 months

Tuesday 9th October 2007
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That's really nice in Silver with the black wheels....black wheels...mmmmm cloud9

markCSC

2,987 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th October 2007
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Fusion-Ed said:
What do you run it on? There is no way you would drop 40bhp unless its running on some horrific fuel!
Always run on V Power.
The Japanese way of measuring BHP is slightly different to the European way. Apparently they have different test standards and correction factors. Add this to that fact that is should be run on 100 RON fuel gives a 40 BHP drop.

Mark

PS Wheels are 17 inch Rota Boosts BTW biggrin

stevieb

5,253 posts

289 months

Wednesday 10th October 2007
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Just had a look thorugh Autotrader, what a bargain they can be had for £2500-£3000 for a 99 model.... Easy to upgrade to 270Brake and some whiteline goodies to help the handling!

pvanstone

Original Poster:

11 posts

220 months

Wednesday 10th October 2007
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Good knowledge guys - much appreciated.

Yeah they are good value - just look like quite an interesting Q Car to me.