Engine blown on Impreza Turbo
Engine blown on Impreza Turbo
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taffstalini

Original Poster:

193 posts

284 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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Can anyone offer any recommendation for a replacement engine for a 1999 classic shape Impreza Turbo. I have just fallen off my seat after someone has quoted 4K for a rebuild. This does include heat shields and anything else that looks like it should be replaced ie brakets etc but still thats about all the car is worth.

I guess a second hand unit would do the job but need some advice/direction











jcborden

256 posts

225 months

Tuesday 8th April 2008
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I would definitely recommend contacting David at API - they specialise in impreza engines and gearboxes (http://www.apiengines.com/). You could have your engine rebuilt or a replacement unit dropped in, either way will be way lower than your quote.

Vixpy1

42,697 posts

287 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Yep, API gets the nod..

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Have a chat with Andy at Grade A Subaru. One of the biggest if not the biggest Subaru specialist breakers in the UK.

Tell him Francis with the WRX Bugeye who's just bought an STi engine off him recommended you contact him. He'll sell you a decent full engine at a cracking price that includes the Turbo and ancilliaries. All you need is someone to swop over a few bits and pieces over from yours like Flywheel and clutch, and then fit it.

Give it a service and off you go!! Easiest and cheapest way forward. thumbup

sniff petrol

13,124 posts

235 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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I wouldn't go for a second hand unit, just think it could blow again in a couple of years whereas with a nice receipt for a rebuilt engine you're more likely to get a higher price come resale time and be far stronger than a used unit.

chippy17

3,740 posts

266 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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may I ask is this a standard engine, as is it not quite rare for this engine to blow?! What was the mileage?

chippy17

3,740 posts

266 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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may I ask is this a standard engine, as is it not quite rare for this engine to blow?! What was the mileage?

jonnye

40 posts

218 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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they fail all time apparently

dnb

3,330 posts

265 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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No, they don't fail "all the time"

(Otherwise I'd have gone through 5 engines by now...)

ScoobieWRX

4,863 posts

249 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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jonnye said:
they fail all time apparently
Some people haven't got a clue really yet they give their opinions, which we are all entitled to do and the reason we come to PH, however at least back it up by some proof or experience of as opposed to mere conjecture because you heard it off a mate in the pub, who in turn heard it from a mate in the chippy, who in turn got it off the cat, etc...etc...

In other words you're talking st!!

Scooby engines for the most part and general mechanicals are pretty damn reliable and faily bullet proof. This is the reason they get seriously abused from time to time and live to tell the tale. However, like anything else things wear out and when that happens something generally goes bang!! The bottom end on mine went but that was nostly due to over revving it and a stuck oil pump bypass plunger/piston, or possibly oil surge or a combination of the two which is highly likely. I won't know till i pull it apart but it's definately not a common problem.

If it was a common problem then as DNB has already said, we would all have gone through several engines by now and the manufactures name would be seriously st!! It's just one of those things!!
If your statement was correct perhaps you can tell me why Subaru's top reliability surveys year after year after year!!

Rant over!! thumbup

chippy17

3,740 posts

266 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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ScoobieWRX said:
jonnye said:
they fail all time apparently
Some people haven't got a clue really yet they give their opinions, which we are all entitled to do and the reason we come to PH, however at least back it up by some proof or experience of as opposed to mere conjecture because you heard it off a mate in the pub, who in turn heard it from a mate in the chippy, who in turn got it off the cat, etc...etc...

In other words you're talking st!!

Scooby engines for the most part and general mechanicals are pretty damn reliable and faily bullet proof. This is the reason they get seriously abused from time to time and live to tell the tale. However, like anything else things wear out and when that happens something generally goes bang!! The bottom end on mine went but that was nostly due to over revving it and a stuck oil pump bypass plunger/piston, or possibly oil surge or a combination of the two which is highly likely. I won't know till i pull it apart but it's definately not a common problem.

If it was a common problem then as DNB has already said, we would all have gone through several engines by now and the manufactures name would be seriously st!! It's just one of those things!!
If your statement was correct perhaps you can tell me why Subaru's top reliability surveys year after year after year!!

Rant over!! thumbup
well quite! I must say the only engines I have ever heard of going bang are JDM cars and tuned/thrashed ones, hence my curiosity

jonnye

40 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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ScoobieWRX said:
jonnye said:
they fail all time apparently
Some people haven't got a clue really yet they give their opinions, which we are all entitled to do and the reason we come to PH, however at least back it up by some proof or experience of as opposed to mere conjecture because you heard it off a mate in the pub, who in turn heard it from a mate in the chippy, who in turn got it off the cat, etc...etc...

In other words you're talking st!!

Scooby engines for the most part and general mechanicals are pretty damn reliable and faily bullet proof. This is the reason they get seriously abused from time to time and live to tell the tale. However, like anything else things wear out and when that happens something generally goes bang!! The bottom end on mine went but that was nostly due to over revving it and a stuck oil pump bypass plunger/piston, or possibly oil surge or a combination of the two which is highly likely. I won't know till i pull it apart but it's definately not a common problem.

If it was a common problem then as DNB has already said, we would all have gone through several engines by now and the manufactures name would be seriously st!! It's just one of those things!!
If your statement was correct perhaps you can tell me why Subaru's top reliability surveys year after year after year!!

Rant over!! thumbup
Sorry was in a hurry ,mentioned it as i had heard this numerous times wasnt my intention to upset subaru owners however there is a problem with earlier sti engines which resulted in a redesign at around sti6 . Oil starvation to piston no 3 was generally the cause . Maybe not complete st

GravelBen

16,337 posts

253 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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jonnye said:
...however there is a problem with earlier sti engines which resulted in a redesign at around sti6 . Oil starvation to piston no 3 was generally the cause . Maybe not complete st
B0ll0x. No3 is last on the fuel rail (and closest to the turbo unless I'm thinking backwards again) so is the one that leans out and goes bang first if something does go wrong. The things that go wrong and cause this to happen are most often caused by mistreatment such as thrashing from cold, running on poor fuel, bad modifications etc. Yes there are exceptions, but not as common as the internet rumour mill would have you believe (except possibly the P1).

PS Watch out, PHer Johnfelstead sporadically humiliates people who spout crap about STi engine problems.

Edited by GravelBen on Friday 11th April 11:15

taffstalini

Original Poster:

193 posts

284 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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Having given this a lot of investigation it would appear that one of the main reasons classic Subaru engines blow (mine is a 1990) is the failure of the air mass meter which if faulty can be missed at service time.

Mine is an untouched UK 2L Turbo.

This has resulted in the faiure of one piston which i suspect has taken some time to occur which says something about the build quality.

I am informed that the failure of the piston has not been helped by their design on the top. The four corners of a square indent on the top of the piston are very close to its edge.

Thanks for the advice. API have been most helful.

jonnye

40 posts

218 months

Friday 11th April 2008
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GravelBen said:
jonnye said:
...however there is a problem with earlier sti engines which resulted in a redesign at around sti6 . Oil starvation to piston no 3 was generally the cause . Maybe not complete st
B0ll0x. No3 is last on the fuel rail (and closest to the turbo unless I'm thinking backwards again) so is the one that leans out and goes bang first if something does go wrong. The things that go wrong and cause this to happen are most often caused by mistreatment such as thrashing from cold, running on poor fuel, bad modifications etc. Yes there are exceptions, but not as common as the internet rumour mill would have you believe (except possibly the P1).

PS Watch out, PHer Johnfelstead sporadically humiliates people who spout crap about STi engine problems.

Edited by GravelBen on Friday 11th April 11:15
better watch out then oh deary me

dern

14,055 posts

302 months

Saturday 12th April 2008
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taffstalini said:
Having given this a lot of investigation it would appear that one of the main reasons classic Subaru engines blow (mine is a 1990) is the failure of the air mass meter which if faulty can be missed at service time.

Mine is an untouched UK 2L Turbo.

This has resulted in the faiure of one piston which i suspect has taken some time to occur which says something about the build quality.

I am informed that the failure of the piston has not been helped by their design on the top. The four corners of a square indent on the top of the piston are very close to its edge.

Thanks for the advice. API have been most helful.
It would appear that mine has done exactly the same thing and I have an engine waiting for me at API.