what car shall i buy next ?

[dan00001]

hi, i curently own a suzuki swift sport and am looking into getting something a bit bigger with a bit more power. i really want an impreza turbo2000, been getting some quotes, im 20 with 1 years ncb and have been driving for 3 years, and the best quotes ive got are around £2200 tpft, i will probely pay that much but does anyone know if im likely to get insurance any cheaper? also anyone know any other jap cars i should take a look at? thanks, dan.

[Stu R]

200sx?

[Wadeski]

200sx, mr2 turbo,honda prelude?

[GravelBen]

Wadeski said:

200sx, mr2 turbo,honda prelude?

Funny that you mention those cars all together with the OP's Impreza suggestion, I recall a Wheels (Aus) magazine article in the late 90's comparing those 4 cars (though the MR2 was a BEAMS NA model iirc)when they were new. The Impreza was a clear winner, 200SX (S14a) second.

Edited by GravelBen on Saturday 25th July 14:30

[OlberJ]

Celica GT4 ST205.

[ScoobieWRX]

For insurance try Keith Michaels Insurance and speak with Gary Moulson who is a fellow scooby owner, and he'll sort you out with a top quote.

[Marf]

GravelBen said:

Wadeski said:

200sx, mr2 turbo,honda prelude?

Funny that you mention those cars all together with the OP's Impreza suggestion, I recall a Wheels (Aus) magazine article in the late 90's comparing those 4 cars (though the MR2 was a BEAMS NA model iirc)when they were new. The Impreza was a clear winner, 200SX (S14a) second.

That may be, but the insurance for any of those will likely be half that of the luke warm UKDM Impreza Turbo2000.

[GravelBen]

'Lukewarm' - I think the UK turbo 2000 was the same spec as the Aus spec WRX which won that test - 208bhp, later upped to 215.

All the cars suggested have very different driving characteristics in any case, so its hard to recommend something to the OP who hasn't given much idea of what he wants.

Edited by GravelBen on Monday 27th July 09:10

[Marf]

GravelBen said:

208bhp, later upped to 215.

Like I said, lukewarm, esp when compared to JDM WRX and STi models of a similar age.

[GravelBen]

Marf said:

GravelBen said:

208bhp, later upped to 215.

Like I said, lukewarm, esp when compared to JDM WRX and STi models of a similar age.

Agreed - just pointing out that even in 'lukewarm' spec it beat the S14a, Prelude and MR2 in a mag test. So I guess they're not too hot either in that case.

[ScoobieWRX]

Marf said:

GravelBen said:

208bhp, later upped to 215.

Like I said, lukewarm, esp when compared to JDM WRX and STi models of a similar age.

Obviously that's nothing to do with japs having 100RON fuel compared to UK 95RON at the time.

Ignition, boost and Air/Fuel maps for JDM cars are completely different to UK spec. JDM cars run much leaner AFR's, more boost and more ignition timing hence a lot more power!! If you look at the main maps on a UK classic or newage ECU you'll wonder how they make any power and hence understand why they lag behind the japs. If you look at the maps on the next Gen V10 scoobs (hatchback) you'll notice there's much less of a difference as UK STi's are now better mapped from the factory to run 99RON, not really very far off the japs now.

[Marf]

GravelBen said:

Marf said:

GravelBen said:

208bhp, later upped to 215.

Like I said, lukewarm, esp when compared to JDM WRX and STi models of a similar age.

Agreed - just pointing out that even in 'lukewarm' spec it beat the S14a, Prelude and MR2 in a mag test. So I guess they're not too hot either in that case.

I'm not surprised it beat the models you mention, esp if they were all AUDM models, AFAIK the S14a is strangled in Aus same as the S15, and had the MR2 been a Turbo rather than the wheezy BEAMS, no doubt it'd have shown the WRX a clean pair of heels.

[lowriderp308]

get a mr2 turbo. im 20 been driving for 2 years 1 years ncb an i insure it for £1550. an its a import just get a good alarm it makes a big difference.

[GravelBen]

Marf said:

GravelBen said:

Marf said:

GravelBen said:

208bhp, later upped to 215.

Like I said, lukewarm, esp when compared to JDM WRX and STi models of a similar age.

Agreed - just pointing out that even in 'lukewarm' spec it beat the S14a, Prelude and MR2 in a mag test. So I guess they're not too hot either in that case.

I'm not surprised it beat the models you mention, esp if they were all AUDM models, AFAIK the S14a is strangled in Aus same as the S15, and had the MR2 been a Turbo rather than the wheezy BEAMS, no doubt it'd have shown the WRX a clean pair of heels.

For straight-line speed perhaps it would have edged it (similar weight, slightly more power), but the other criteria the WRX won on would still have applied just the same.

But anyway, back on topic - does the OP have any idea what they actually want in a car other than something bigger ans more powerful than a Swift Sport?

[lowriderp308]

what du mean there cant be that many cars quicker than a suzuki swift.

[havoc]

Accord Type R.

REALLY goes under most people's radar, but aside from being fwd (has a good diff though, like the ITR, and doesn't handle in THAT fwd a manner...) is a better driver's car than the SX and the Prelude, and is a much safer bet than an MR2 Turbo!

[nottyash]

lowriderp308 said:

what du mean there cant be that many cars quicker than a suzuki swift.

My brother had a rush of st to the brain and bought one new. He swapped a Leon Cupra R for it!!!
Slow, the only decent thing about them Swifts is the handling.