MR2 (2000 onwards) – what to look out for?
MR2 (2000 onwards) – what to look out for?
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Frimley111R

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18,398 posts

257 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Hi All,

I’m looking at getting one of these. Anything I should look out for particularly when buying one (apart from all the usual stuff I’d look for on any car)?

Thanks!

eybic

9,212 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Make sure it has decent rear tyres, they (or certainly earlier ones) are known to have hedge magnets in the rear bumpers lol

gazchap

1,543 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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I can't remember the exact specifics unfortunately but I vaguely remember that this generation of MR2 (with the 1ZZ-FE engine) had a problem with the catalytic converter that meant it would gradually degrade until the honeycomb inside would disintegrate and send bits of it into your engine.

Frimley111R

Original Poster:

18,398 posts

257 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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gazchap said:
I can't remember the exact specifics unfortunately but I vaguely remember that this generation of MR2 (with the 1ZZ-FE engine) had a problem with the catalytic converter that meant it would gradually degrade until the honeycomb inside would disintegrate and send bits of it into your engine.
?? Are you saying it could go backwards into the engine?

sjcross

52 posts

262 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Frimley111R said:
gazchap said:
I can't remember the exact specifics unfortunately but I vaguely remember that this generation of MR2 (with the 1ZZ-FE engine) had a problem with the catalytic converter that meant it would gradually degrade until the honeycomb inside would disintegrate and send bits of it into your engine.
?? Are you saying it could go backwards into the engine?
Have a look on the MR2 Roadster Owners Club for 'pre-cat issues' and you can read all about the problem. I'm in a similar position to you in that I'm considering one too.

Wadeski

8,829 posts

236 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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As has been said, get a facelift one if you can - the early ones hat cat problems.

im sure the owners club will have all the correct info though.

nottyash

4,671 posts

218 months

Saturday 27th February 2010
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Wadeski said:
As has been said, get a facelift one if you can - the early ones hat cat problems.

im sure the owners club will have all the correct info though.
Definatly, the newer ones have nicer back lights, front fogs and are 6 speed. I think they have a timing chain instead of a belt too.

Mr LoTo

81 posts

200 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Hi Guys

I bought a 2001 model MR2 Mk3 a couple of years back - during the research process prior to purchasing the car I almost decided against buying a Mk3 due to the pre-cat issues.

The deciding factors for me were:
- when the problem occurs it does so very quickly - within a few miles
- standard spec stainless steel manifolds are available which when fitted remove any possibility of the pre-cat material being sucked back into the engine and causing the failure

Therefore if the problem has not already occurred the fitment of a new manifold means that it cannot happen. If you are purchasing the car from a garage and have a 3 or 6 month warranty then even better.

My Mk3 has been utterly reliable requiring only service items to be replaced! I have the Toyota lower springs fitted with 16 inch alloys and slightly wider than standard tyres - this improved the road holding without upsetting the balance.

Good luck with it!


OlberJ

14,101 posts

256 months

Monday 1st March 2010
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Rust, pre-facelift cars and staggered tyres.

The subframes rust quite badly for some reason, have a poke about it if possible. Easy to weld once it's off but a good bargaining tool.

The early engines had problems, some folk say chocolate cranks, others say the precats get ingested with the VVTi working at cruising speed. Either way, it's only about £50-£100 to have the pre-cats removed, i normally do that when fitting the replacement engines. Which are about £500-£1000 to buy plus about £300 fitting. An early car with a bust engine you can get very cheap, budget for a late engine (or something bigger?) and you're laughing.

If you don't have wider tyres on the rear than the front then the handling is somewhat scary. The roadster is very very sensitive to tyre choice and stagger so get it right.

If it's an MR-s import rather than a UK MR2 then chances are it won't have the LSD.

So, essentially, get a 2003 onwards UK Mr2 and you'll defo not be dissapointed. biggrin

SuperBaaaad

1,816 posts

242 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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OlberJ said:
Rust, pre-facelift cars and staggered tyres.

The subframes rust quite badly for some reason, have a poke about it if possible. Easy to weld once it's off but a good bargaining tool.

The early engines had problems, some folk say chocolate cranks, others say the precats get ingested with the VVTi working at cruising speed. Either way, it's only about £50-£100 to have the pre-cats removed, i normally do that when fitting the replacement engines. Which are about £500-£1000 to buy plus about £300 fitting. An early car with a bust engine you can get very cheap, budget for a late engine (or something bigger?) and you're laughing.

If you don't have wider tyres on the rear than the front then the handling is somewhat scary. The roadster is very very sensitive to tyre choice and stagger so get it right.

If it's an MR-s import rather than a UK MR2 then chances are it won't have the LSD.

So, essentially, get a 2003 onwards UK Mr2 and you'll defo not be dissapointed. biggrin
Having been the victim of HGF, then due to a slack fitted timing chain, bent valves, the engine has now died (HGF round 2).

The AF sensors went and the Cat fell to bits.

The car is now sat looking quite sad. I'm not spending any more money on the engine as I suspect the head is warped or cracked (compression tests say it's fine but 2 HGF's in 1 year tells me otherwise).

So, where are these £500-1000 engines and 300 fitting.

I want one.

Have cash waiting.

(as long as they're not the ones off of ebay)

OlberJ

14,101 posts

256 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Hi Oli,

the engines we have picked up from breakers. DA Autoparts were the most recent ones we used, 2004 engine 45k on it for £500+VAT. Also had a reconned engine from somewhere else (will need to check) that came in at about £900 delivered.

We can swap the engine in to your current car for £300 including all your oil and coolant.

Only other thing i'd recommend is fitting a new clutch while the gearbox is being swapped over unless it's been done recently.

Whereabouts are you based?

(Tried to email you but it says you aren't receiving emails)

SuperBaaaad

1,816 posts

242 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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OlberJ said:
Hi Oli,

the engines we have picked up from breakers. DA Autoparts were the most recent ones we used, 2004 engine 45k on it for £500+VAT. Also had a reconned engine from somewhere else (will need to check) that came in at about £900 delivered.

We can swap the engine in to your current car for £300 including all your oil and coolant.

Only other thing i'd recommend is fitting a new clutch while the gearbox is being swapped over unless it's been done recently.

Whereabouts are you based?

(Tried to email you but it says you aren't receiving emails)
Hi J/Olber,

In Basingstoke but am happy to have the car trailered to wherever (Good old AA). The 45k engine sounds fine. I'll email you my email address.

Cheers.

Munter

31,330 posts

264 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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OlberJ said:
Also had a reconned engine from somewhere else (will need to check) that came in at about £900 delivered.
Possibly from api?

http://apiengines.com/petrol.php

SuperBaaaad

1,816 posts

242 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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OlberJ said:
Hi Oli,

the engines we have picked up from breakers. DA Autoparts were the most recent ones we used, 2004 engine 45k on it for £500+VAT. Also had a reconned engine from somewhere else (will need to check) that came in at about £900 delivered.

We can swap the engine in to your current car for £300 including all your oil and coolant.

Only other thing i'd recommend is fitting a new clutch while the gearbox is being swapped over unless it's been done recently.

Whereabouts are you based?

(Tried to email you but it says you aren't receiving emails)
Hmmm, just realised, you're about as far away from me as is humanly possible (within the confines of the GB borders).

Not sure anyone would take the car to Glasgow, a good 393 miles away from me.

DO you have any Southern counterparts you'd recommend?

:-)

VerySideways

10,267 posts

295 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Sorry for slightly o/t but @OlberJ, been reading on retrocars about your 1MZ conversion... i'm VERY interested in this. Think we need to have a chat wink

OlberJ

14,101 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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My email inbox and phone are always open smile

link to website is in my sig if you're stuck for either.

VerySideways

10,267 posts

295 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Hi Oliver - you have mail wink

Ry_B

2,256 posts

224 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Put a 2zzge engine in it!

OlberJ

14,101 posts

256 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Ry_B said:
Put a 2zzge engine in it!
Sounds straight forward but it's not cheap!

Parts are around £2-2.5k for a 2zz swap.

Frimley111R

Original Poster:

18,398 posts

257 months

Monday 24th May 2010
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Does the earlier Mk3 have a different engine to the later Mk3 then and does it have a cambelt?