skyline gtr34

[Diablos-666]

What are the running costs of these machines? Do they need servicing every 6k miles? Are the standard ones reliable?

[Anubis]

www.gtr.co.uk

Good luck finding a standard one buddy (near to impossible).

If your going to do things properly (which you should), these cost a small fortune to keep running and servicing. If set up correctly then they are reliable, but parts and servicing won't be cheap (compared to an average sports car). Start to think super car type of cash.

[Diablos-666]

I sort of thought as much.

I have been thinking along the lines of a TVR t350 or Tuscan and have been advised that these cost between £2-3k a year.
I've also been looking at corvette, these are relatively cheap to maintain but I only like the Z06 but that's out of my budget.
As an outsider I thought about a skyline as I always liked them when I was younger, didn't realise what a big car they were though.
The TVR's are lovely and they are expensive to run but I can't find anything else I would rather have.

[SmoothRB]

Nobody buys these cars and 'just' gets them serviced...as in that is the only money they spend.

Always this or that to upgrade or improve. The R32/33/34 are made to be heavily modified.

If you want a car to pose in get the Corvette.

Edited by SmoothRB on Sunday 28th February 06:54

[R33GTST]

^^^^What SmoothRB said

The running costs depends on how much leg work your prepred to do in order to get the best price. Taking it to a nissan dealer is a no no. Middlehurst exclusivly supplied UK versions, others are imports. They would be able to take care of it no probs. Or a reputable tuner closer to home eg: Abbey motorsport, Rising Sun Performance.

They could be used everyday if wanted, i would if i was in a postion to buy one. It's usually more cost effective to replace items with performance parts as the standard items usually cost more to order in specially.

I run a modified R33(400+bhp, serviced every 6-7K) everyday or when ever i need a car. Starts 1st time everytime and costs no more than a vauxhall to service. It was cheaper to uprate parts than buy standard ones!

TVR's can be temperamental-i do like the cerbera V8's though. The 34GTR is what i consider a more reliable performance package-as in to tune up/maintain and use everday without fail; and be ready to use when you want to take it out for a blast.

[Carfiend]

I expect people will go off on this one but when I was looking for a Skyline I was told to be careful with GTRs as the bottom end on them is less robust than the Single Turbo Engines and to budget about £2000 for a rebuild.

In retrospect I should of gotten a gtr since I don't use it every day but I like my GTT and that is all that matters.

If it did go all you need to do is rebuild it with an uprated bearing set, crank, forged rods and pistons and aim for high power

[Diablos-666]

Yes, i have been looking at the c5, but im not sure if i like the looks of it?

Plus it looks very long, i know the c6 or the gtr34 are not short but the c6 looks huge.

I think my heart is set on a TVR tbh, they also have a bit of class about them, and they are a pure British sportscar :-)

I really dont know, im in no rush to buy so have plenty of time to consider and re-consider and ask you fine people.

[GravelBen]

Carfiend said:

I expect people will go off on this one but when I was looking for a Skyline I was told to be careful with GTRs as the bottom end on them is less robust than the Single Turbo Engines and to budget about £2000 for a rebuild.

Apparently only an issue if you spend sustained peroids at 8000+ rpm though, or so I hear.

I think its another one of these things thats a much bigger problem on the internet than anywhere else.

[Carfiend]

GravelBen said:

I think its another one of these things thats a much bigger problem on the internet than anywhere else.

Like all things the people it happens too are more vocal than those it doesn't.

[R33GTST]

GravelBen said:

Carfiend said:

I expect people will go off on this one but when I was looking for a Skyline I was told to be careful with GTRs as the bottom end on them is less robust than the Single Turbo Engines and to budget about £2000 for a rebuild.

Apparently only an issue if you spend sustained peroids at 8000+ rpm though, or so I hear.

I think its another one of these things thats a much bigger problem on the internet than anywhere else.

True.

Also those aiming for big power may sometimes overlook the crank and hope it will be ok. Until it finds it's limit and disintergrates. So the big turbos and boost are left sat on a broken engine

[ro_butler]

R33GTST said:

GravelBen said:

Carfiend said:

I expect people will go off on this one but when I was looking for a Skyline I was told to be careful with GTRs as the bottom end on them is less robust than the Single Turbo Engines and to budget about £2000 for a rebuild.

Apparently only an issue if you spend sustained peroids at 8000+ rpm though, or so I hear.

I think its another one of these things thats a much bigger problem on the internet than anywhere else.

True.

Also those aiming for big power may sometimes overlook the crank and hope it will be ok. Until it finds it's limit and disintergrates. So the big turbos and boost are left sat on a broken engine

Sorry, but not strictly true. Hang around 'the scene' for a while and you will soon realise these are expensive cars to run. These are old cars now and lots of the parts are expensive. The engines are not the paragons of reliability that everyone assumes a jap car should be, and cost a LOT more than 2k to rebuild at a reputable specialist. Spun bearings are a recurring problem (or certainly used to be).
If left stock or very mildly tuned you should be ok, but then they are not very quick in this form.

Bottom line: Jap cars are reliable but once they are tuned (and this applies to pretty much all makes of car) all bets are off.

[R33GTST]

ro_butler said:

[Bottom line: Jap cars are reliable but once they are tuned (and this applies to pretty much all makes of car) all bets are off.

Not at all in my experience. In the 3 1/2yrs i've had mine the only thing thats changed is the power level (it's nearly DOUBLED), yet i can still jump in it everyday and expect it to start. It'll drive like any other car, unless poked.

Reliability is down to how owners treat there cars-skimping on services and maintenance, taking them to tuners that are not up on the knowledge of there car i.e limits of certain parts. Thrashing them from cold etc etc.

I'd rather risk ownership with a tuned R34GTR then a TVR Cerbera.....

Every car has it's week point. It's knowing about it/ finding it before you upgrade something thats going to push it just that little bit to far. For instance headgaskits, turbo internals, engine internals. Your limit is the part with lowest tolerance obviously.

At the minute im at the limit of my headgaskit so no more boost can be run. Thats where im stopping until it's addressed. Yet the engine internals are good for 500bhp, once a new gaskit is fitted.

[Trommel]

R33GTST said:

Also those aiming for big power may sometimes overlook the crank and hope it will be ok. Until it finds it's limit and disintergrates. So the big turbos and boost are left sat on a broken engine

Rubbish.

There are standard cranks in engines making well over 1000 bhp.

[ROB_GTR]

Carfiend said:

I expect people will go off on this one but when I was looking for a Skyline I was told to be careful with GTRs as the bottom end on them is less robust than the Single Turbo Engines and to budget about £2000 for a rebuild.

In retrospect I should of gotten a gtr since I don't use it every day but I like my GTT and that is all that matters.

If it did go all you need to do is rebuild it with an uprated bearing set, crank, forged rods and pistons and aim for high power

£2000 for a rebuild............ you being serious? costs more than that in labour alone! try 7 to 12k depending what you have done

[R33GTST]

Trommel said:

R33GTST said:

Also those aiming for big power may sometimes overlook the crank and hope it will be ok. Until it finds it's limit and disintergrates. So the big turbos and boost are left sat on a broken engine

Rubbish.

There are standard cranks in engines making well over 1000 bhp.

I only know of Toyota Supra's 2JZ engine being able to do this, there very much well over engineered. Not a bad thing! Just unsure about the 34GTR's capabilities.... and other makes that can be highley tuned up. I know my crank would break if it was tried at that power

[Trommel]

R33GTST said:

I only know of Toyota Supra's 2JZ engine being able to do this, there very much well over engineered. Not a bad thing! Just unsure about the 34GTR's capabilities.... and other makes that can be highley tuned up. I know my crank would break if it was tried at that power

It's the usual internet rubbish - find me an example anywhere of an RB26 crank snapping.

~600 bhp is perfectly feasible on a standard-internals RB26 if it's set up properly.

[SmoothRB]

R33GTST said:

Trommel said:

R33GTST said:

Also those aiming for big power may sometimes overlook the crank and hope it will be ok. Until it finds it's limit and disintergrates. So the big turbos and boost are left sat on a broken engine

Rubbish.

There are standard cranks in engines making well over 1000 bhp.

I only know of Toyota Supra's 2JZ engine being able to do this, there very much well over engineered. Not a bad thing! Just unsure about the 34GTR's capabilities.... and other makes that can be highley tuned up. I know my crank would break if it was tried at that power

A stock 2JZ is NOT good for 1000 bhp.

[Carfiend]

ROB_GTR said:

£2000 for a rebuild............ you being serious? costs more than that in labour alone! try 7 to 12k depending what you have done

That was the number quoted for a bottom end rebuild in the instance of spun bearing by a few people when looking around.

Also RSP can supply a short engine for just under £2000 with forged pistons and uprated bearing so with labour that would be a bit over £2000 for a rebuild. That is on exchange so they get your old block and what not.

You could stump up and extra £1000 and get a RB30 short engine instead

Edited by Carfiend on Tuesday 9th March 12:34

[R33GTST]

SmoothRB said:

R33GTST said:

Trommel said:

R33GTST said:

Also those aiming for big power may sometimes overlook the crank and hope it will be ok. Until it finds it's limit and disintergrates. So the big turbos and boost are left sat on a broken engine

Rubbish.

There are standard cranks in engines making well over 1000 bhp.

I only know of Toyota Supra's 2JZ engine being able to do this, there very much well over engineered. Not a bad thing! Just unsure about the 34GTR's capabilities.... and other makes that can be highley tuned up. I know my crank would break if it was tried at that power

A stock 2JZ is NOT good for 1000 bhp.

Must of picked the wrong info up somewhere along the line. Thought the twin turbo engines were good for it. My bad.

[psst]

There are a lot of myths about GTR's. The only high running cost is petrol (if you keep the modding bug under control)

Once you go over the stage 1 mod stuff it becomes expensive. The 34 has a much tougher gearbox. Depending on mileage I'd change the gearbox oil once a year and engine oil every 6K just to be on the safe side as if you do spin a bearing it does cost a bit to repair but RKTuning and Rising Sun Performance in the south, RB motorsport in the north, will put it right for a good price.