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mudy

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874 posts

195 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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Hello
http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1907682.htm
Would I be mad to buy this to use as a part-time family car - part time commuter in from Hungerford to London?
Are they robust, are the running costs mental?
What should I look out for?
But most importantly - are they fast?!

belleair302

6,995 posts

230 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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Great cars, beautiful build quality, wonderful to drive, but one or two points to consider. They do drink fuel, watch out for clutches and the turbo's. How often has the oil beeen changed and who has been looking after the car from new? Check out the exhausts and wheel alighment but otherwise they are fast when the turbo's spool up and handle very well.

MonkeyBusiness

4,196 posts

210 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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As mentioned above they are not that clever on fuel - mid/high 20's.

They are fast. Decent on the first turbo and then when the second one kicks in you'll have one of those 'whoooooooooah' moments.

GravelBen & Shaid GTB on this forum are the resident experts.



Edited by MonkeyBusiness on Thursday 7th October 20:21

anonymous-user

77 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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mudy said:
Hello
http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1907682.htm
Would I be mad to buy this to use as a part-time family car - part time commuter in from Hungerford to London?
Are they robust, are the running costs mental?
What should I look out for?
But most importantly - are they fast?!
No you would not be mad at all... they are great cars, perfect for family and great for winter... do you have a dog? If so they come with built in dog guard.

They are robust, the twin turbo system takes some getting used to especially s it has a sequential turbo system with dip in boost whilst the secondary turbo wakes up but nothing a remap (300+ bhp) but you'll learn to drive around this dip once you get used to it.

As with any turbo car just make sure its in good nick mechanically.

They are fast, they can put up a fight with the big boys and the grip is great.

Many parts are interchangeable with the Impreza so plenty of parts available however mpg is not great.

Here's mine...





Sorry any excuse for a pic...

Mine is a BG5, the one your looking at is the BH5. The difference is basically you have a nicer interior, your car has a mapable ecu (mine doesn't) and overall it's a little more refined. Very comfortable just make sure you get the GTB as it comes with Bilstein suspension as standard. Not much roll considering the size of the car and it swallows bumps and yumps with ease.

Edit : You'll love giving Imprezas a pasting too and many people will ask you what you done to it? When you reply nothing the look on said faces is amazing.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 7th October 20:28

micron750

845 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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mudy said:
Hello
http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1907682.htm
Would I be mad to buy this to use as a part-time family car - part time commuter in from Hungerford to London?
Are they robust, are the running costs mental?
What should I look out for?
But most importantly - are they fast?!
We must think a like i'm going down the route as i need something a little bigger but wanted a similar performance as my impreza.............and a few have said 'what the hell do you want one of them for' they seem to forget its basicly the same engine in a bigger car which is what i need anyway they don't have to like it they ain't got to drive it,i've seen one unabused one ready for me to only slightly mod nothing over the top tho..............one thing is once you fire up that boxer engine you'll love the heart beat awesomesmile

micron750

845 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th October 2010
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Shaid GTB said:
mudy said:
Hello
http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1907682.htm
Would I be mad to buy this to use as a part-time family car - part time commuter in from Hungerford to London?
Are they robust, are the running costs mental?
What should I look out for?
But most importantly - are they fast?!
No you would not be mad at all... they are great cars, perfect for family and great for winter... do you have a dog? If so they come with built in dog guard.

They are robust, the twin turbo system takes some getting used to especially s it has a sequential turbo system with dip in boost whilst the secondary turbo wakes up but nothing a remap (300+ bhp) but you'll learn to drive around this dip once you get used to it.

As with any turbo car just make sure its in good nick mechanically.

They are fast, they can put up a fight with the big boys and the grip is great.

Many parts are interchangeable with the Impreza so plenty of parts available however mpg is not great.

Here's mine...





Sorry any excuse for a pic...

Mine is a BG5, the one your looking at is the BH5. The difference is basically you have a nicer interior, your car has a mapable ecu (mine doesn't) and overall it's a little more refined. Very comfortable just make sure you get the GTB as it comes with Bilstein suspension as standard. Not much roll considering the size of the car and it swallows bumps and yumps with ease.

Edit : You'll love giving Imprezas a pasting too and many people will ask you what you done to it? When you reply nothing the look on said faces is amazing.

Edited by Shaid GTB on Thursday 7th October 20:28
Do i detect a Legacy owners club by anychnace??smile

GravelBen

16,340 posts

253 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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Shaid GTB said:
Mine is a BG5, the one your looking at is the BH5. The difference is basically you have a nicer interior, your car has a mapable ecu (mine doesn't) and overall it's a little more refined. Very comfortable just make sure you get the GTB as it comes with Bilstein suspension as standard. Not much roll considering the size of the car and it swallows bumps and yumps with ease.
Only the final Revision D of the BE/BH (mid 01-03) is mappable AFAIK though someone may have come up with something for the earlier versions.

BH is a lot more refined, and has multilink rather than mac strut rear suspension, more planted at speed and more front-end grip IME. I think I'd rate mine (bog standard 2002 GTB) as the best ride/handling damping balance I've encountered. The only thing I don't like is the steering rack is too light/slow for my taste, I may swap an STi rack in at some stage to fix that.

Quite a different power delivery to a single turbo Subaru, very smooth and linear. Mine is making boost at 1600rpm, secondary turbo chimes in just above 4000 and it pulls like a train right to the redline. Peak torque is at 5000rpm but that doesn't tell the whole story, 80+% of it is on tap from 2000-6500.

Personally I think its worth forking out a bit extra for a Rev-D car (which is what I did) - they had a few mechanical changes like higher compression, different turbos, slightly taller gears etc which overall gives better driveability, no flat spot in the turbo changeover, better fuel economy etc.

I average around 26mpg in mixed use or 30-32 on the open road without hanging around much (thats on 98, ~10% worse on 95) and with 280bhp its no slouch...

http://vimeo.com/2481437

Edited by GravelBen on Friday 8th October 01:06

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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Good to see you use the Leggy like it should... by the way that road looks awesome...

Micron - Yep

GravelBen

16,340 posts

253 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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Shaid GTB said:
Good to see you use the Leggy like it should... by the way that road looks awesome...
Thanks - we have plenty of roads like that down here! scratchchin Maybe thats why they keep selling us turbo Legacies wink

mudy

Original Poster:

874 posts

195 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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Thanks guys - what a great response!
My current daily is a 1988 930 so I know all abot the whooooosh!
I get around 10 mpg so I'd be laughing too with a gtb.
Are there any good indies in the nw London or even east Wiltshire area?

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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http://www.tbm-int.co.uk/

Try, these guys in the link above.

They always seem to have a good stock of Legacys and i've have not yet heard anything bad about their service. Plenty of people on the Legacy forum have imported theirs through tbm.

I can't think of anyone else to be honest.

Servicing wise anyone who can deal with an Impreza should be fine. The only confusion will be the solenoid box. Not a biggie though, they might need a clean and the vac lines replacing to bring the performance back to normal.

belleair302

6,995 posts

230 months

Friday 8th October 2010
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mudy said:
Thanks guys - what a great response!
My current daily is a 1988 930 so I know all abot the whooooosh!
I get around 10 mpg so I'd be laughing too with a gtb.
Are there any good indies in the nw London or even east Wiltshire area?
Japex in King's Langley Herts will be able to look after your car and are minutes off of the M25 Jct 20 and the A41.