Buying a X5 - 3.0 diesel or petrol?
Buying a X5 - 3.0 diesel or petrol?
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CycleSi

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511 posts

224 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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What are the pro's and con's of each?

Looking to buy around a 2001 / 02 model year with less than 60k miles on the clock.

cerb4.5lee

45,105 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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I would always recommended the diesel over the petrol,its a heavy beast & i have a 4.8is & it struggles with the weight.

They are lovely cruisers so your better off getting a bit more to the gallon with the diesel & benefit from the torque.

60k is nothing for either engine so its down to personal choice.

Good luck with your search.

CycleSi

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511 posts

224 months

Tuesday 14th June 2011
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Finding a diesel is proving difficult. It is certainly my first choice but am now considering petrol.

Petrol versions are noticeably cheaper to buy but will obviously cost more to run from a MPG point of view.

Performance isn't an issue as most of the time it will just do the school run and Tesco's trip.

Occasionally it will be used to pull my track car & trailer though.

Seeker UK

1,443 posts

189 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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If you want a petrol, you should consider a 4.4i. They will be a lot cheaper than a diesel of the same age and mileage and not much more to buy than a 3.0i. The 4.4 will also be better equipped and becuase it doesn't have to work as hard as the 3.0 to get an X5 moving (even moreso when towing), will pretty much return a very similar MPG.

As for looking for a 60k car that's 10 years old? Don't worry about that - buy on condition and service history not mileage. Mileage doesn't tell you how well a car has been looked after. In fact at 6k per year, it's probably been on lots of shorter or in-city stop/start journeys which are worse for it.

laingy

676 posts

272 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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the diesel is a great car. as much performance as you need for a 4x4

CycleSi

Original Poster:

511 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Sounds like I should be looking at the V8's then.

Thanks for 'enlightning' me.

CycleSi

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511 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Been thinking about it some more.....

The most sensible option seems to be the 3.0 diesel followed by the 4.4 V8 petrol.

Can anyone give me a reason(s) for buying the 3.0 petrol?

Skrambles

1,358 posts

295 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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CycleSi said:
Been thinking about it some more.....

The most sensible option seems to be the 3.0 diesel followed by the 4.4 V8 petrol.

Can anyone give me a reason(s) for buying the 3.0 petrol?
Can't think of any reason at all to buy a 3.0i. MPG is apparently not much better than on a 4.4i (which is a great car).


CycleSi

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511 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Going to look at a 4.4i Sport tomorrow.

cerb4.5lee

45,105 posts

211 months

Wednesday 15th June 2011
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Excellent,hope its a good one.

You will really love the sound it makes,just not the constant fuel fill ups!!

Hope it goes well,you get alot of car for the money.

Good luck.

laingy

676 posts

272 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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in my opinion you need plenty of torque for the x5 and the diesel is perfect for this

CycleSi

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511 posts

224 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Presumably the 4.4 V8 has more torque than the 3.0 diesel?

cerb4.5lee

45,105 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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The 4.4 has less torque than the 3.0d & the 4.8is has exactly the same as the 3.0d both have 369ft/ibs.

The 4.4 has 325ft/ibs of torque, early 4.4s had 286bhp then increased to 320bhp.

The 4.8 has 360bhp & the 3.0d early ones had 184bhp then increased to 218bhp.

Hope i have not bored you senseless with these figures!

You are right about the earlier engines though as the 4.4 has 325ft/ibs against the early diesel having 303ft/ibs.

Edited by cerb4.5lee on Thursday 16th June 10:40

CycleSi

Original Poster:

511 posts

224 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Those figures are much appreciated - it kinda clarifys things.

Will just have to see how it test drives and take it from there.....

cerb4.5lee

45,105 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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Hope all goes well & keep us updated on what you think.

They do drive nice for such a heavy machine & are really comfy with a good driving position.

All the best.

CycleSi

Original Poster:

511 posts

224 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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I must be mad as I bought it. Was swayed by the condition and spec.

Sod the MPG.

"I'm here for a good time, not for a long time"

Deva Link

26,934 posts

276 months

Thursday 16th June 2011
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CycleSi said:
Performance isn't an issue as most of the time it will just do the school run and Tesco's trip.
I see you've bought a petrol now anyway, but how far are the school run and Tesco's? Diesels need a decent run to get them warm, ideally 20+ miles. Also older diesels generally, are fraught with expensive to fix problems that seem more age related than mileage - things like fuel system seals allowing air to leak in can be a nightmare to find.

laingy

676 posts

272 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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my diesel gets 30mpg with plenty of short trips. i think that is great for a large 4x4. It got close to 40 on a drive to the south of france.

cerb4.5lee

45,105 posts

211 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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CycleSi said:
I must be mad as I bought it. Was swayed by the condition and spec.

Sod the MPG.

"I'm here for a good time, not for a long time"
Great news,pleased for you, glad your happy with it.

When do you pick it up?

Skrambles

1,358 posts

295 months

Friday 17th June 2011
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Congratulations OP.

I've got a facelifted 2004 4.4 and the fuel is not bad, considering that it's a big v8 monster! Currently, motorway cruising gives an average of 26-27 mpg and purely urban driving (commuting) gives about 17.5-19 mpg.