Rough Idle on E36 318
Rough Idle on E36 318
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snowen250

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1,094 posts

214 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Hello all

Yesterday i acquired a 318 E36 saloon from a friend of the family for a ...................tenner. Yup £10. shes leaving the country and wanted rid fast. Its a good car except when cold it wont idle properly, just keeps stalling. It gets better when warm but isnt great. We sprayed all the connections with connection cleaner but this had no effect. Very occasionally it will idle fine, for instance when it went through a car wash. But most of the time it stalls approaching junctions or idles very low on the revs.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

Simon

Y282

20,566 posts

203 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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first thing first, take the intake elbow off (the one that looks like a big ribbed rubber hoover hose) and give it a good flex, check for any cracks between the ridges. they're sometimes hard to spot and a new elbow is quite cheap even from main dealers.

next check the idle control valve functions properly and that no air breather pipes are split. there's a lot of google stuff out there on this.

good luck smile

snowen250

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1,094 posts

214 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Yup thats what i forgot! That rubber hose has got some splits in it. We got this to practice car mechanics on, as you can see we know NOTHING! Could this be the issue?

It seems its a common problem, il look at getting a new Idle Control Valve as this could be the issue.

Cheers

Simon

Y282

20,566 posts

203 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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snowen250 said:
Yup thats what i forgot! That rubber hose has got some splits in it. We got this to practice car mechanics on, as you can see we know NOTHING! Could this be the issue?

It seems its a common problem, il look at getting a new Idle Control Valve as this could be the issue.

Cheers

Simon
pipe first, that'll really help. you're letting unmetered air into the engine through the splits at the moment. in other words the MAF calculates the amount of fuel the engine will need by measuring the flow of air past it and sends that info to the brain. the additional air getting in through the cracks after the MAF is then changing the fuel/air ratio and confusing the car.

hope this helps.

snowen250

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1,094 posts

214 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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Yup that sounds about right, il get that looked at asap. Cheers

Simon

Ritchie335is

2,156 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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Its a common problem on these and a lot of the time its not as simple a fix as it seems.
My missus has a 318 touring and it does the same. I have been all over the vacuum/breathing system and changed the rocker cover breather as it was burst but its still not right.
There is quite a bit on the web about this problem. The ICV is tucked under the inlet manifold and is an integrated part, not like the small cylindrical ones that you get so its a bh to clean out and means taking the manifold off.
Mine really makes a sucking noise through the small separator at the back of the throttle body, there is a small vent slot in this at the top and I think there is too much vacuum at this point. I don't know why though.

snowen250

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214 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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Yeh ive seen its a common issue. Its odd though as occasionally it is fine. So we are sure its just a sensor playing up. I have a specialist near me so i might take it there later if my migraine sorts itself out a bit.

Cheers for all the advice guys.

Simon

deadtom

2,769 posts

196 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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snowen250 said:
we know NOTHING!
pretty sure the cracked hose and the idle control valve were the first two things i said it could be :P

but yes, thanks for all the help chaps, it runs good when it wants to so im taking that as a good sign that there is nothing properly wrong with it and will hopefully be a cheap fix.

snowen250

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214 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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Yes let me ammend that, i know NOTHING, tom knows quite a lot smile


Ritchie335is

2,156 posts

233 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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Let us know how you get on with fixing it because I would love to sort mine out!

snowen250

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1,094 posts

214 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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Well i ordered the new rubber hose thingy today from bmw, il have it fitted when im back from business on monday, so il let you all know!

Simon

roofer

5,136 posts

242 months

Tuesday 12th July 2011
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snowen250 said:
We got this to practice car mechanics on,

Simon
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