BMW Compact - ahead of it's time?
BMW Compact - ahead of it's time?
Author
Discussion

the_lone_wolf

Original Poster:

2,622 posts

216 months

Friday 21st February 2014
quotequote all
Is it just me, or was the old 3-Series Compact released a few years too early?

A little background, we recently bought a 316ti as a run around for the missus to learn to drive in and generally potter about. When they were first released I hated them, the looks weren't so good and I thought it was a cynical attempt to get into the hatchback market. Now I'm starting to warm to it, I think the looks have aged very well, it was cheap, it's fun to drive, obviously a bit lacking in power but an M-Sport version would be hilarious...

Obligatory photo:



Now, I never got the impression that the Compact was that popular, certainly nowhere near as prolific as the saloon and estate versions, yet now you can look down any street in just about any reasonably affluent area and you'll see a string of '06 onwards 1-Series, mostly with the smallest engines and largest alloy wheels

Was BMW just a bit ahead of the game here?

morgrp

4,128 posts

228 months

Friday 21st February 2014
quotequote all
It might have been if they'd put a bit more effort into designing it

Shaw Tarse

31,901 posts

233 months

Friday 21st February 2014
quotequote all
It's not a pretty car.(IMHO)

kambites

71,599 posts

251 months

Friday 21st February 2014
quotequote all
I think the problem with the compact was that was it was so clearly a half-arsed attempt at shoving a platform into a market segment it was never really meant to enter. It was hardly the first hatchback with an upper-midrange badge on the nose. It was a good car, especially in 325i guise, but whilst the 1-series might be rather ugly, the compact just looked silly, which is far worse.

The C-class coupe thing was a far better (visually) attempt at turning a small executive saloon into a hatchback, which also didn't help the BMW.

Edited by kambites on Friday 21st February 22:44

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

162 months

Friday 21st February 2014
quotequote all
The bespoke front shows their heart wasn't really in it. If they'd meant it, they have put the 3 series nose on and made it proper hatch shape and sold a stload of them.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Friday 21st February 2014
quotequote all
morgrp said:
It might have been if they'd put a bit more effort into designing it
Quite. Didn't Merc do something similar as well?

bigunit00

890 posts

177 months

Friday 21st February 2014
quotequote all
Bought one for exact same reason and at £2k does what I need it to do and is pretty frugal to run.

the_lone_wolf

Original Poster:

2,622 posts

216 months

Friday 21st February 2014
quotequote all
Interesting comments on the looks, genuinely a decade ago I'd have agreed with them all!!

Only lately, I really am starting to think it's not as bad as I thought, maybe it's because I'm a kind of by proxy owner, or maybe I've just not seen many around in the flesh?

It's obviously still a lot better coming than going but compared to more recent BMWs...

Maz_uk

590 posts

228 months

Friday 21st February 2014
quotequote all
I bought a 53 Plate 325ti Sport from a customer, this particular car had only done 14k miles.

What a car! Handling was just superb just the right amount of power and kit.

e21Mark

17,685 posts

203 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
I've always liked them. Had an s50 powered one that was a blast to drive and thanks to the light weight, would surprise a few people. I always saw them as a modern version of the 02 touring, which was also criticised for its styling.


Leins

10,488 posts

178 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
Great cars, in both E36 & E46 guise, but always suffered from a bad press

In comparison, the only C-Class SC versions that ever really appealed were actually those that didn't directly rival the Compact i.e. the two (LHD) AMG versions

yzrh

171 posts

152 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
Both Mercedes-Benz and BMW messed up these cars, the 3 Series Compact and the C Class Coupe. Both bad looking, I know the Mercedes-Benz had a huge number of reliability issues to go with it.

Of course these days we're used to seeing manufacturers release cars to cater for everything. Pretty much 3 doors, 5 doors, hatchback, saloon, 4x4, coupe, cabriolet, but for all sizes from hatchback to luxury car size.

Patrick Bateman

13,210 posts

204 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
I had one. Decent enough car but that'll never change the fact it's ugly as sin. Looks like it's been in a rear-end shunt.

Escort3500

13,558 posts

175 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
Some of them were OK eekeek


Pints

18,451 posts

224 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
Escort3500 said:
Some of them were OK eekeek

And if you find a picture of an ok example, do let us know.

GravelBen

16,534 posts

260 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
Shaw Tarse said:
It's not a pretty car.(IMHO)
But not as bad as the 1-series, and thats sells well enough! Maybe there was better-looking competition back then.

s m

24,492 posts

233 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
Ozzie Osmond said:
morgrp said:
It might have been if they'd put a bit more effort into designing it
Quite. Didn't Merc do something similar as well?

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

264 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
I think the OP makes a good point.

I really liked my 318ti, was a great little car. It looks no worse than the other e36 variations tbh, they're hardly lookers.

NelsonR32

1,777 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
I picked up an 02 325ti for £745 last week. Needed a new cooling system which I fitted myself and clutch is slipping slightly. So all in all owes me £1145.

I'm amazed how good it is to drive. Had a 325i saloon and 330ci cab and the chopped off rear end does make it feel faster and more fun. However, one. Thing it isn't is pretty. I may hunt down some facelift rear lights soon.

g3org3y

22,509 posts

221 months

Saturday 22nd February 2014
quotequote all
Love the 2002 touring. cool