BMW 1 series with 335d fitted?
Discussion
stan2w said:
what would that be like wonder
A 130d would be my perfect next car.Assuming e87 / e90...
130i (Auto) = 1,400KG
330i (Auto) = 1,495KG (same engine, different chassis)
e87 therefore 95KG lighter
335d (Auto) = 1,580KG
x35d therefore 85KG heavier than x30i
335d (Auto) = 1,580KG / 281HP = 178 HP per ton
Therefore 135d (Auto) = 1,485KG / 281HP = 189 HP per ton
Using some 0-60 calculator online, factoring in the figures we know from the 130i, 135d 0-60 is a shade under 6 seconds.
Same stats for a 130d (manual) = 1,430 / 241HP = 168 HP per ton, 0--60 in 6.7 seconds.
Along the same vein would be a 330td - e46 compact with the e46 330d engine. Should fit.
Edited by Jakg on Saturday 30th January 23:05
awkward to drive I imagine.
Depends how exactly you go about fitting the 335d to the 1 series. Would you fabricate some kind of linkage that connects the nose of the 335d to rear bumper of the 1 series? would it be simple like a trailer hitch such that the 335d just follows the track of the 1 series, or would it be a powered unit that is integrated into the steering system of the 1 series?
how would you get around the difficulties of synchronising the drivetrain systems? what spec 1 series are we considering? You would probably want its performance to be at least fairly closely matched to that of the 335d otherwise the 335d would induce one hell of an oversteer under full power as it tries to overtake.
presumably this rather cumbersome contraption would be operated from the cabin of the 1 series, in which case I suppose you would have some kind of articulated 8x4 vehicle, or you could use an Xdrive 335d (does that exist yet?) to get an 8x6 which would probably have quite formidable pulling power.
all the above assumes an in-line, nose forward orientation of both cars (which become akin to simply being power units in the finished product I guess)
Need a bit more detail on your ideas before the PH masses can give a good estimation of the practicalities and capabilities of such a project.
Depends how exactly you go about fitting the 335d to the 1 series. Would you fabricate some kind of linkage that connects the nose of the 335d to rear bumper of the 1 series? would it be simple like a trailer hitch such that the 335d just follows the track of the 1 series, or would it be a powered unit that is integrated into the steering system of the 1 series?
how would you get around the difficulties of synchronising the drivetrain systems? what spec 1 series are we considering? You would probably want its performance to be at least fairly closely matched to that of the 335d otherwise the 335d would induce one hell of an oversteer under full power as it tries to overtake.
presumably this rather cumbersome contraption would be operated from the cabin of the 1 series, in which case I suppose you would have some kind of articulated 8x4 vehicle, or you could use an Xdrive 335d (does that exist yet?) to get an 8x6 which would probably have quite formidable pulling power.
all the above assumes an in-line, nose forward orientation of both cars (which become akin to simply being power units in the finished product I guess)
Need a bit more detail on your ideas before the PH masses can give a good estimation of the practicalities and capabilities of such a project.
I noticed at a car meet that someone has put in a 335D engine in a 1 series. His Instagram on his car is:
https://www.instagram.com/bmw135d/
So you could contact him and ask him what is it like.
https://www.instagram.com/bmw135d/
So you could contact him and ask him what is it like.
That "135d" has had a LOT of work done in addition to just an engine swap - hybrid turbos, bigger fuel pump and intercooler amongst other things.
What would be amazing is if someone shoehorned the tri-turbo unit from the BMW M550d into a 1 series.
Imagine if someone managed to do that.....oh wait.....
http://www.carscoops.com/2015/11/ac-schnitzer-150d...
What would be amazing is if someone shoehorned the tri-turbo unit from the BMW M550d into a 1 series.
Imagine if someone managed to do that.....oh wait.....
http://www.carscoops.com/2015/11/ac-schnitzer-150d...
deadtom said:
awkward to drive I imagine.
Depends how exactly you go about fitting the 335d to the 1 series. Would you fabricate some kind of linkage that connects the nose of the 335d to rear bumper of the 1 series? would it be simple like a trailer hitch such that the 335d just follows the track of the 1 series, or would it be a powered unit that is integrated into the steering system of the 1 series?
how would you get around the difficulties of synchronising the drivetrain systems? what spec 1 series are we considering? You would probably want its performance to be at least fairly closely matched to that of the 335d otherwise the 335d would induce one hell of an oversteer under full power as it tries to overtake.
presumably this rather cumbersome contraption would be operated from the cabin of the 1 series, in which case I suppose you would have some kind of articulated 8x4 vehicle, or you could use an Xdrive 335d (does that exist yet?) to get an 8x6 which would probably have quite formidable pulling power.
all the above assumes an in-line, nose forward orientation of both cars (which become akin to simply being power units in the finished product I guess)
Need a bit more detail on your ideas before the PH masses can give a good estimation of the practicalities and capabilities of such a project.
You could always just put the 335d on top. Obviously you'd have to carefully position and balance it to ensure optimal weight distribution. And not brake too hard.Depends how exactly you go about fitting the 335d to the 1 series. Would you fabricate some kind of linkage that connects the nose of the 335d to rear bumper of the 1 series? would it be simple like a trailer hitch such that the 335d just follows the track of the 1 series, or would it be a powered unit that is integrated into the steering system of the 1 series?
how would you get around the difficulties of synchronising the drivetrain systems? what spec 1 series are we considering? You would probably want its performance to be at least fairly closely matched to that of the 335d otherwise the 335d would induce one hell of an oversteer under full power as it tries to overtake.
presumably this rather cumbersome contraption would be operated from the cabin of the 1 series, in which case I suppose you would have some kind of articulated 8x4 vehicle, or you could use an Xdrive 335d (does that exist yet?) to get an 8x6 which would probably have quite formidable pulling power.
all the above assumes an in-line, nose forward orientation of both cars (which become akin to simply being power units in the finished product I guess)
Need a bit more detail on your ideas before the PH masses can give a good estimation of the practicalities and capabilities of such a project.
t.An understeery mess I would have thought!
That is why BMW made the 130i with the lightweight N52 engine but didn't bother putting the 6 - cylinder Diseasel in it as it was too heavy (so I bought a 123d - 4 cylinders but 2 turbos)!
Why would you want to, especially when you could just buy a 335d anyway?!
That is why BMW made the 130i with the lightweight N52 engine but didn't bother putting the 6 - cylinder Diseasel in it as it was too heavy (so I bought a 123d - 4 cylinders but 2 turbos)!
Why would you want to, especially when you could just buy a 335d anyway?!
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