06 E63 650 - Blue Smoke
06 E63 650 - Blue Smoke
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swagmeister

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382 posts

123 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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So, I've had the car 06 650 7 weeks now and cant stop singing its praises. However, got caught at a set of temp traffic lights for some road works heading into work this morning. They took an absolute eternity to change and when I was pulling away I noticed a large plume of blue'ish smoke behind me. Google tells me there is a problem with valve oil seals going. I hope not, as the car only had 4 weeks warranty and I cant afford the bill that this repair would carry.
Further googling and the feeling of impending doom brought me across some posts and information on it also possibly being the PCV valve(s) so an online shopping trip ensued and 2 new valves should arrive in a few days . I will update when fitted and report on if it solves the issue or if I should trade the car in sharpish.
FYI the car has only done 64k miles with a very comprehensive history. so a bit surprised if its the valve oil seals. Other than this mornings smoke the car runs and idles perfectly however is had used about a litre of oil in the past 4-5 weeks.
Has anyone else suffered this and cured it by replacing the PCV's ? should I look for more symptoms ? Ive really fallen for this car but a huge repair bill isnt possible nor are my spanner skills to try it myself.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

236 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Oil usage also ties in with PCV valve, I'd be very surprised if the valve stem seals are gone at 60k.

swagmeister

Original Poster:

382 posts

123 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Thanks hornetrider , also feedback from another online forum suggests no smoke on cold start up = no valve oil seal issue, I have no smoke on a cold start, not even first thing in the morning so fingers crossed its just a bad PCV.

helix402

7,913 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Hope your pcv valves cure it, afraid the valve stem oil seals can still go at low mileage.

dkatwa

578 posts

276 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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As a precaution I had the PCVs changed on my DB9. I gather the symptoms are oil in the air filter, though mine were fine. Maybe it's the same with BMW?
Hope it's an easy fix..650s look cool....

swagmeister

Original Poster:

382 posts

123 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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It weird dkatwa, only ever noticed it this morning. Then as always jumped right onto Google. My doctor says I should stay away from it as Ive self diagnosed everything imaginable and as always when it comes to your car - you always think the worst. If its not the PCV's then I'll happily nurse it long until Dec where I will be in a reasonable position both financially and within my timeframe to change anyway. If its went this far it will last another 9 months.

rockford22

362 posts

163 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Afraid my 645ci suffered a similar problem - PCV replacement made no different. No smoke on cold starts, only when at tempersture and idling for a long periods. Car remained fine and drove without issues.

gf15

1,039 posts

297 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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My 2005 650 started smoking at 135k miles, when idling for longer than 5 mins, now @160k and it is smokey after about 90 seconds idling when warm. Never had smoke on start up. I have bitten the bullet and it goes to an indy on Monday to have the oil stem seals replaced for it's first serious work after 6 years and 120k miles in my hands.
I thought about changing it, but I reckon it is worth about 5k, and I would have to add about £15k to get anything of a similar caliber to replace it with (think Jag XK5.0).
Hopefully I will be able to run it for another 120k miles and 6 years. yes
I really do like it as a GT car. Even the looks have grown on me! Stick with it, it is a very accomplished 2 seater GT.



LFB531

1,276 posts

189 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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swagmeister said:
So, I've had the car 06 650 7 weeks now and cant stop singing its praises. However, got caught at a set of temp traffic lights for some road works heading into work this morning. They took an absolute eternity to change and when I was pulling away I noticed a large plume of blue'ish smoke behind me. Google tells me there is a problem with valve oil seals going. I hope not, as the car only had 4 weeks warranty and I cant afford the bill that this repair would carry.
Further googling and the feeling of impending doom brought me across some posts and information on it also possibly being the PCV valve(s) so an online shopping trip ensued and 2 new valves should arrive in a few days . I will update when fitted and report on if it solves the issue or if I should trade the car in sharpish.
FYI the car has only done 64k miles with a very comprehensive history. so a bit surprised if its the valve oil seals. Other than this mornings smoke the car runs and idles perfectly however is had used about a litre of oil in the past 4-5 weeks.
Has anyone else suffered this and cured it by replacing the PCV's ? should I look for more symptoms ? Ive really fallen for this car but a huge repair bill isnt possible nor are my spanner skills to try it myself.
Hope you get it sorted. I too am a recent 650 convert, about three weeks in. Had a flirtation with a 996 Porsche but missed the V8 I had in a previous Jaguar. Fancied something different and the 650 ticked many boxes (especially for the money!). Mine is on 64,000 and has just done a quick run to Normandy and back where it was superb and exactly as hoped for; fast, comfortable and generally effortless.