i8: hero to zero. What went wrong?
i8: hero to zero. What went wrong?
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Vroomer

Original Poster:

1,889 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Shortly after launch these cars were trading at a massive premium and there was a long waiting list. Now it seems you can buy a low-mileage car less than a year old for 30% off list.

What went wrong?

Thermobaric

725 posts

151 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Combination of new shiny thing not being so new anymore and marmite styling I guess.

037

1,375 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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I was never sure who the target market for these was.

MitchT

17,159 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Vroomer said:
Shortly after launch these cars were trading at a massive premium and there was a long waiting list. Now it seems you can buy a low-mileage car less than a year old for 30% off list.
Same pattern as most halo models from many marques for as long as I can remember. Basically the "I want to be the first to be seen in one and will pay silly money to ensure it happens" supernova burning itself out.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

227 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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MitchT said:
Vroomer said:
Shortly after launch these cars were trading at a massive premium and there was a long waiting list. Now it seems you can buy a low-mileage car less than a year old for 30% off list.
Same pattern as most halo models from many marques for as long as I can remember. Basically the "I want to be the first to be seen in one and will pay silly money to ensure it happens" supernova burning itself out.
Also, BMW cleverly had the ability to increase production over and above the usual means so when the car was initially a hit they decided to ramp up production. The problem comes with supplier agreements that dictate a continuation of production numbers-once ramped up they had to sell as the production line couldn't be slowed due to stockpiling of parts.

Mr Tidy

31,842 posts

158 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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I can't help thinking they should have made 2 versions of it.

Much as I love the looks of them, I wouldn't pay that sort of money for a car that looked so good with just a 1.5 litre 3 cylinder turbo in it!

Double the cylinder count (at least) in a 2nd model and then it might have some appeal - a sort of modern day M1!

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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The I8 spider launches next year. It will be interesting to see if it follows a similar pattern.

I was at my local BMW dealer yesterday enquiringly about the next Z4 and asked how i8 sales were going. He said that there were initially large waiting lists but as soon as second hand models came onto the market at 40% below list, many people cancelled orders and moved to the used market.

CanAm

14,150 posts

303 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Mr Tidy said:
Much as I love the looks of them, I wouldn't pay that sort of money for a car that looked so good with just a 1.5 litre 3 cylinder turbo in it!
Nail. Head. Hit.

ClaphamGT3

12,249 posts

274 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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037 said:
I was never sure who the target market for these was.
Dollar millionaires who want this week's trinket

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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CanAm said:
Mr Tidy said:
Much as I love the looks of them, I wouldn't pay that sort of money for a car that looked so good with just a 1.5 litre 3 cylinder turbo in it!
Nail. Head. Hit.
BMW lent me one for four days recently. It's an awesome car to drive - fantastic acceleration, frugal if you want, relaxing and exciting when you want and those doors!

I'm still a 6/8/10 cylinder kind of a guy but at the right price I think the i8 is a great proposition.

creepy coupe

302 posts

164 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Mr Tidy said:
I can't help thinking they should have made 2 versions of it.

Much as I love the looks of them, I wouldn't pay that sort of money for a car that looked so good with just a 1.5 litre 3 cylinder turbo in it!

Double the cylinder count (at least) in a 2nd model and then it might have some appeal - a sort of modern day M1!
This exactly ^

nickpan

649 posts

220 months

Friday 25th August 2017
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It should have had Tesla like acceleration and been 100% electric.

Instead - it falls between two chairs. Doesn't benefit from the "perks" of driving electric but neither does it have a petrol engine to be proud of.

A nice experiment none the less.

HerrSchnell

2,352 posts

230 months

Friday 25th August 2017
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037 said:
I was never sure who the target market for these was.
Fans of the motion picture Tron and those two french lads called Thomas and Guy Manuel who like robots a lot.

A very narrow demographic for sure.

Wills2

29,855 posts

206 months

Friday 25th August 2017
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New car in depreciation shocker!


Speed addicted

6,336 posts

258 months

Saturday 26th August 2017
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CanAm said:
Mr Tidy said:
Much as I love the looks of them, I wouldn't pay that sort of money for a car that looked so good with just a 1.5 litre 3 cylinder turbo in it!
Nail. Head. Hit.
Exactly. When it was newly released I was in my local dealer buying parts for my aging 6 series, and the receptionist was telling me how good it was on fuel. I explained that if I was buying £100k cars my last worry would be MPG!

Stick a tuneful V12 or a V8 in it, even a straight 6 would do. Imagine how much faster it could be if you got rid of all the electric stuff completely!

Vroomer

Original Poster:

1,889 posts

211 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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If you were just after speed and a big engine, you'd buy an M6.

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Vroomer said:
If you were just after speed and a big engine, you'd buy an M6.

So what are you after if you buy an i8?

MrOrange

2,039 posts

284 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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REALIST123 said:

So what are you after if you buy an i8?
Honestly. Something just a bit different to the regular fare. I've had mine for 18 months and never once have I wished I had more power, or a V8. But I do agree it's not to everyone's taste, and that suits me just fine.

Pothole

34,367 posts

313 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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037 said:
I was never sure who the target market for these was.
Rich nerds ready to graduate from their C1?

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 29th August 2017
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MrOrange said:
REALIST123 said:

So what are you after if you buy an i8?
Honestly. Something just a bit different to the regular fare. I've had mine for 18 months and never once have I wished I had more power, or a V8. But I do agree it's not to everyone's taste, and that suits me just fine.

Fair enough but it's a lot of money to be a bit different.....