Talk to me about 2 series Grand tourers
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I'm thinking about replacing my old R class Mercedes with one of these soon. I'm hoping it'll prove more reliable than the Mercedes. Probably looking at a late 2015 car something like this. I know it's gonna be smaller but should be big enough for the 6 of us. Is there anything i need to be aware of with these? How long is the manufacturer warranty on these?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
wolfie1978 said:
I'm thinking about replacing my old R class Mercedes with one of these soon. I'm hoping it'll prove more reliable than the Mercedes. Probably looking at a late 2015 car something like this. I know it's gonna be smaller but should be big enough for the 6 of us. Is there anything i need to be aware of with these? How long is the manufacturer warranty on these?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
3 years, unlimited mileage from new, see belowhttp://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/topics/ownership/servic...
I drove it's smaller brother and didn't, at least in town, like the visibility. It's the split side window, at front; you can see in most pictures. I found that distracting when, for example, pedestrians walk into road.
I drove the 220i auto, plenty of power but I didn't find engine as smooth or as responsive as BMWs 20d I have that in a X1.
However, it was a lot better than most loan cars of that engine type/size I've had.
auto box is very good, I had Luxury spec, seats were not bad, but not my preference which is full M Sport.
it was very practical good tailgate entry.
I've a driven a few of the smaller Merc SUV /MPV type things and this drove better, more car like.
Smuler said:
3 years, unlimited mileage from new, see below
http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/topics/ownership/servic...
I drove it's smaller brother and didn't, at least in town, like the visibility. It's the split side window, at front; you can see in most pictures. I found that distracting when, for example, pedestrians walk into road.
I drove the 220i auto, plenty of power but I didn't find engine as smooth or as responsive as BMWs 20d I have that in a X1.
However, it was a lot better than most loan cars of that engine type/size I've had.
auto box is very good, I had Luxury spec, seats were not bad, but not my preference which is full M Sport.
it was very practical good tailgate entry.
I've a driven a few of the smaller Merc SUV /MPV type things and this drove better, more car like.
Yes i would prefer the full M Sport but i don't think one is in my budget sadly. Thanks for the warranty info, i assumed it was 3 years, that seems the standard,http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/topics/ownership/servic...
I drove it's smaller brother and didn't, at least in town, like the visibility. It's the split side window, at front; you can see in most pictures. I found that distracting when, for example, pedestrians walk into road.
I drove the 220i auto, plenty of power but I didn't find engine as smooth or as responsive as BMWs 20d I have that in a X1.
However, it was a lot better than most loan cars of that engine type/size I've had.
auto box is very good, I had Luxury spec, seats were not bad, but not my preference which is full M Sport.
it was very practical good tailgate entry.
I've a driven a few of the smaller Merc SUV /MPV type things and this drove better, more car like.
I've had an e39 530i sport before the Mercedes and i like the way BMW lay their interiors out
Wife has the 218d Active Tourer. She likes it, high driving position(she hates my 118 for being so low), nice auto box and plenty of toys.
Its a launch edition Luxury spec, leather heated seats, LED lights and a few other bits and pieces.
Took it france last year, great on the autoroutes. Drive to Bristol this year, averaged 62mpg with a full car.
The M sport spec ones do look nice though.
Its a launch edition Luxury spec, leather heated seats, LED lights and a few other bits and pieces.
Took it france last year, great on the autoroutes. Drive to Bristol this year, averaged 62mpg with a full car.
The M sport spec ones do look nice though.
wolfie1978 said:
Kawasicki said:
Why not get a touran? I think 6 would be very cramped in a 2 series.
Honestly i just don't like them, would a Touran be any bigger? If anything they look smaller, may be deceptive though. We'll always have one of the third row seats folded down. My wife has a Touran...I drive an old BMW.
My brother in law has one
A 218d luxury auto .. it's actually very nice, very comfy and great visibility
It's a bit wallowy and not very quick .. but he had 5 kids and it's a nice fairly stylish way of moving them about
Bear in mind the rear two seats are only for small kids really, and when they are up you have very little boot space
But, overall it's a good car
A 218d luxury auto .. it's actually very nice, very comfy and great visibility
It's a bit wallowy and not very quick .. but he had 5 kids and it's a nice fairly stylish way of moving them about
Bear in mind the rear two seats are only for small kids really, and when they are up you have very little boot space
But, overall it's a good car
My wife has one - works well for 4 of us and two dogs, but I'd hesitate on recommending for 6. Rear seating is fine, but not that spacious - my son will use it sometimes (he's 8) and it's OK, but you lose half the boot.
In terms of driving - we have the 20d with auto and it works well together - much better than our previous S-max. Ride is good - non run-flats on 17's helps here with a 50 or 55 sidewall! Ours is Luxury spec.
M-sport will get you better seats as with all (I think) BMW's - much better lumbar support than those in ours.
I guess just try before you buy - something like a Galaxy will give you much more space, but the BMW is far and away better for ride and interior, and the engine/gearbox is much better too..
In terms of driving - we have the 20d with auto and it works well together - much better than our previous S-max. Ride is good - non run-flats on 17's helps here with a 50 or 55 sidewall! Ours is Luxury spec.
M-sport will get you better seats as with all (I think) BMW's - much better lumbar support than those in ours.
I guess just try before you buy - something like a Galaxy will give you much more space, but the BMW is far and away better for ride and interior, and the engine/gearbox is much better too..
sp222 said:
My wife has one - works well for 4 of us and two dogs, but I'd hesitate on recommending for 6. Rear seating is fine, but not that spacious - my son will use it sometimes (he's 8) and it's OK, but you lose half the boot.
In terms of driving - we have the 20d with auto and it works well together - much better than our previous S-max. Ride is good - non run-flats on 17's helps here with a 50 or 55 sidewall! Ours is Luxury spec.
M-sport will get you better seats as with all (I think) BMW's - much better lumbar support than those in ours.
I guess just try before you buy - something like a Galaxy will give you much more space, but the BMW is far and away better for ride and interior, and the engine/gearbox is much better too..
Thanks, We were considering an S-Max to be honest and they look similar in size. I wasn't sure how comfortable i would be in it over long distances and i feel the BMW would be miles better in this regard. In terms of driving - we have the 20d with auto and it works well together - much better than our previous S-max. Ride is good - non run-flats on 17's helps here with a 50 or 55 sidewall! Ours is Luxury spec.
M-sport will get you better seats as with all (I think) BMW's - much better lumbar support than those in ours.
I guess just try before you buy - something like a Galaxy will give you much more space, but the BMW is far and away better for ride and interior, and the engine/gearbox is much better too..
We had a 62 plate Titanium S-Max and we got it for a great price. Kept its value too over 3 years.
It's bigger than the 2 series in the boot so rearward passengers have more space.
The BMW beats it everywhere else though - ride on ours with 17's is really great - better than my old F11 530d (although that had 19's and RFT..). Economy is better, auto gearbox way better and the engine is a big step up too.
When we looked to replace the S-Max I only briefly looked at the new version as prices weren't so keen and although I didn't push that hard, we got a decent price on the 2 series so I wasn't bothered about checking the new S-Max.
All the other MPV's just seemed to be really dull to drive (Sharan etc). I know it's a family bus but you shouldn't want to shoot yourself after driving one ;-)
So check the rear space and the seats - M-Sport will have better seats than Luxury, but ride may not be so great. We have a 2 wheel drive one as I couldn't see the point in having x-drive.. I just bought a lumbar cushion for long drives and that's fine..
It's bigger than the 2 series in the boot so rearward passengers have more space.
The BMW beats it everywhere else though - ride on ours with 17's is really great - better than my old F11 530d (although that had 19's and RFT..). Economy is better, auto gearbox way better and the engine is a big step up too.
When we looked to replace the S-Max I only briefly looked at the new version as prices weren't so keen and although I didn't push that hard, we got a decent price on the 2 series so I wasn't bothered about checking the new S-Max.
All the other MPV's just seemed to be really dull to drive (Sharan etc). I know it's a family bus but you shouldn't want to shoot yourself after driving one ;-)
So check the rear space and the seats - M-Sport will have better seats than Luxury, but ride may not be so great. We have a 2 wheel drive one as I couldn't see the point in having x-drive.. I just bought a lumbar cushion for long drives and that's fine..
wolfie1978 said:
Keeping the Mercedes or getting a newer one is not an option. The cars been so unreliable I can't justify buying another
Perks of having a merc, eh? 
The 2 series is nice, but have you thought of a 7 seater SUV? Some are much nicer to look at and drive, with most giving good space for 7. I suggest the X5 or GLS (if brave) or a XC90. If budget allowed, I'd get a RRS with the 7 seats.
rayyan171 said:
Perks of having a merc, eh?
The 2 series is nice, but have you thought of a 7 seater SUV? Some are much nicer to look at and drive, with most giving good space for 7. I suggest the X5 or GLS (if brave) or a XC90. If budget allowed, I'd get a RRS with the 7 seats.
I really want to avoid an SUV if possible mainly for the same reason we want shot of the R class. Maintenance costs are horrific to be honest. We've had the Mercedes 2 and a half years, in that time it's had both front air legs replaced, both rear air springs replaced, off side CV/driveshaft replaced, 6 tyres, front climate control fan, AC compressor and it still needs glo plugs and an exhaust back pressure sensor replacing. £5,000 not including the tyresThe 2 series is nice, but have you thought of a 7 seater SUV? Some are much nicer to look at and drive, with most giving good space for 7. I suggest the X5 or GLS (if brave) or a XC90. If budget allowed, I'd get a RRS with the 7 seats.
My mate has one. He has 4 grown up kids so for him a 7 seater will almost always come into play as well as with moving stuff about around the country.
He likes his TBH. It's not a looker but it looks great inside and is a nice place to be.
An S-Max is potentially a nicer drive but the 2 Series is certainly better than most of its rivals as another S-Max owner was saying. I didn't want to praise but to be fair BMW haven't done a bad job with it.
He likes his TBH. It's not a looker but it looks great inside and is a nice place to be.
An S-Max is potentially a nicer drive but the 2 Series is certainly better than most of its rivals as another S-Max owner was saying. I didn't want to praise but to be fair BMW haven't done a bad job with it.
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