E91 Touring - Replacing RFT's - suggestions?
E91 Touring - Replacing RFT's - suggestions?
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Original Poster:

518 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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I've reached the point where the Bridgestone RFT's are nearing the limit tabs & i'm done with them.

Suffice to say, I don't want run flats again, struggling to think of any positives really.

Need to replace them now - so just after some idea's as to something reasonably good in 255/35/18 & 225/40/18.

It's a diesel tourer, so not a race car, so seems a bit pointless chucking Pilot Sports on or similar smile

Monty Python

4,813 posts

228 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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How much do you want to spend?

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Original Poster:

518 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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Well, having a look, It seems like I can get something decent & branded for around a £100 a side on the rears & £70/80 on the fronts.

Anything below that i'm into brands i've never heard of.

In that range seems to be:

GY Eagles
Uniroyal Rainsport
Toyo Proxes
Avon ZZ5

So I guess Something along those lines really.

AllyBassman

779 posts

143 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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I've got GY Eagle F1 ASY 2's on my E90.

Highly reccomended, improved the ride quality no end.

PTF

4,456 posts

255 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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Went from Continental run flats to Michelin Pilot Sports non-RF on my E91.

It used to tramline REALLY, REALLY badly, to the point where it felt dangerous. That together with road noise and ride were greatly improved by switching.

How much of that is RF vs non-RF, or Continental vs Michelin is unclear

stewies_minion

1,167 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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Ran mine on falkens. Perfect for me.

Ken Figenus

6,011 posts

148 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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AllyBassman said:
I've got GY Eagle F1 ASY 2's on my E90.
I binned the atrocious 19" RFT's at 900 miles on my F11 and put theses on too. Work well. Falken 452 are also good - make sure you get the right model number Falken though. PSS or better PS4-S are fabulous tyres and could make sense if they do last longer.

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Original Poster:

518 posts

226 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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PTF said:
It used to tramline REALLY, REALLY badly, to the point where it felt dangerous. That together with road noise and ride were greatly improved by switching.

How much of that is RF vs non-RF, or Continental vs Michelin is unclear
Agreed - on 18's it is shocking on some sections of roads - even cruising on the motorway there were some points recently where the car actually felt out of control, almost like it had a flat tyre - bloody scary.

The tyres arn't 'that' low either ~3+mm all round. With wetter weather coming though, i'm keen to ditch them.

SebringMan

1,774 posts

217 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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If I can tell the difference (as can other drivers) between an old Mondeo 2.5T going between Uniroyal RS3s and Eagle F1 A3s I think you'll be able to tell wink.

Anyway, in your shoes I'd try the following:

Michelin Pilot Sport 4s
Goodyear Eagle F1 A3s.

Both will grip better than mid range stuff and last quite a bit longer.

AndyVR

6 posts

109 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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I've ran Toyo's for years, albeit in 16" form on VW's, very quiet, decent ride.

I have Bridgestones on my E91 I don't think they are RFT's, will check what they are later.

Never heard a good thing about Avons!

AndyVR

6 posts

109 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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I've ran Toyo's for years, albeit in 16" form on VW's, very quiet, decent ride.

I have Bridgestones on my E91 I don't think they are RFT's, will check what they are later.

Never heard a good thing about Avons!

tomic

720 posts

176 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Went from Michelin RFT to Hankook Ventus V12 Evo S1 on my 325i MSport - Really did make a big difference to the ride and no noticeable impact to the handling. Good wear rate too.

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Original Poster:

518 posts

226 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I found a set of Eagle F1's for £400 fitted for all 4, so they will be going on next week - thanks for the suggestions.

Looking forward to slightly less scary experiences!

PDP76

2,583 posts

181 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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tomic said:
Went from Michelin RFT to Hankook Ventus V12 Evo S1 on my 325i MSport - Really did make a big difference to the ride and no noticeable impact to the handling. Good wear rate too.
Had those hankook on my E91.
Rears lasted 8k terrible. But very grippy tyre it has to be said.
Front end still going strong at 16k
Now trying Bridgestone driveguard on the rear

Swervin_Mervin

5,008 posts

269 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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I had Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas on. They're discontinued now int hose sizes but their is an alternative. They were pretty good actually, and had Vreds on in the past on other cars.

The fronts are still on actually, but the rears are now on GY Eagle F1s. I really rate them and they're priced well. Will be having them on the front when I finally wear the Sessantas down.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Just replaced RFTs with normal tyres on my BMW (E87 130i SE). It was downright dangerous in the wet. Since getting real tyres and having a four wheel alignment done at good indie, it's much better. Went for Conti Prem Contact 6, which is a compromise between all out sporty and comfortable.

One thing I would definitely say to watch, is tyre pressures. Obviously, these cars were issued with tyre pressures for RFTs. And what I've found is, recommended pressure at the rear is fine, in fact, if I go any higher I get unwanted oversteer everywhere. But ... front needs to be higher, or the sidewalls (XL in my case) feel like they're bending over. Recommended is 2.7 bar rear, and 2.2 bar front. I've gone for 2.7 and 2.35, and that about does it.


anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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BTW Prem Contact 6 are good. However, ISTR the Prem Contact 2 I had on an E36 328i some years back were even better. Doesn't seem possible, I know. Could it be that when the Contact 2 was designed, tyres, generally, were higher profile, and therefore needed a stiffer sidewall pro rata? Maybe the 6 has a softer sidewall to compensate for all the mad small sidewalls that are fashionable today?



mondeoman

11,430 posts

297 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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What about wet / winter performance, aren’t most of the options given fair weather tyres....?

Swervin_Mervin

5,008 posts

269 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Can't stand Contis personally. I find them noisy, lacking in cold grip, and with poor feedback. Will be ditching the Contis on the fron of our F20 w-series to match the F1s on the back of that as well.

As for pressures, I run my E91 330i with the quoted pressures and it's absolutely bang on.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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My E36 328i had the best feedback of any car I've ever had, on 205/60 15 donuts (a rare thing of the past now). Maybe Contis suited those old sizes